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Javaman

(65,088 posts) Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:15 PM Dec 11

whoopsie doodle that may have been Russian oil in that tanker! LOL

https://thehill.com/policy/international/5644572-lavrov-questions-us-venezuela-seizure/

Russia demands Trump administration provide reasoning for seizure of oil tanker

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov on Thursday demanded that the Trump administration explain why a Venezuelan oil tanker was seized by U.S. forces.
“I really hope that the United States, although they consider themselves entitled to conduct such operations, will somehow explain, out of respect for other members of the world community, what facts led them to take such actions,” he said during an ambassadors’ roundtable on the Ukrainian crisis resolution.
Attorney General Pam Bondi has already shared a defense for the Wednesday move, alleging that the oil on the tanker was sanctioned for its “involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations.”
She said Wednesday the oil was being transported from Venezuela and Iran.
However, global counterparts have questioned the move conducted by U.S. military forces without alerting them beforehand, and after repeated strikes on alleged “narco-terrorist” ships traveling in the Caribbean.

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whoopsie doodle that may have been Russian oil in that tanker! LOL (Original Post) Javaman Dec 11 OP

"I'm really sorry, Mr. Putin, Kegsbreath was drunk again." Kid Berwyn Dec 11 #1

Cute but incorrect TexLaProgressive Dec 11 #3

Thank you! My mistake! Kid Berwyn Dec 11 #8

Dip-shit Trump is going to take us into a world war. Emile Dec 11 #2

Iran needs oil. There's like none there, right? Johonny Dec 11 #4

Their lies don't make any sense. Justice matters. Dec 11 #6

Venezuela may need Iran or Russian oil though.. Venezuela's oil is a heavy type that needs a lot of refining to make LiberalArkie Dec 11 #17

yeah, Iran only has the 3rd largest reserves of oil RussBLib Dec 11 #7

Iran is not taking oil. The tanker was used for Venezuela and Iran oil. Melon Dec 11 #13

From the OP. Igel Dec 11 #20

Mmmm that's not my reading of it. underpants Dec 11 #5

It's amazing how much reasonably-current information Wikipedia has on such specific topics. erronis Dec 11 #9

It's a go to general knowledge source underpants Dec 11 #18

I love wikipedia. I have a recurring donation. Damn righteous nerds. Hahaha. 🤓 littlemissmartypants Dec 11 #19

It was either Russian or Iranian, both are under sanctions Warpy Dec 11 #10

Now I expect Trump to fire someone newdeal2 Dec 11 #11

Why would Russian or Iranian oil be in Venezuela? IronLionZion Dec 11 #12

The boat was "Venezuelan" making it a disguise. ... littlemissmartypants Dec 11 #16

Uh oh duckworth969 Dec 11 #14

Yep. littlemissmartypants Dec 11 #15

Kid Berwyn

(22,881 posts)

1. "I'm really sorry, Mr. Putin, Kegsbreath was drunk again."

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:19 PM

Dec 11

"Sir, we'll be sending you two tankers right away, sir!"

TexLaProgressive

(12,668 posts)

3. Cute but incorrect

Reply to Kid Berwyn (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:28 PM

Dec 11

It was the US Coast Guard under Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem. They at least followed their normal protocol to intersect, board and inspect, not Kegsbreath’s seek and destroy.

Kid Berwyn

(22,881 posts)

8. Thank you! My mistake!

Reply to TexLaProgressive (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:15 PM

Dec 11

Always been a friend of the United States Coast Guard.

FTR: I don't blame either Kristi Noem Lewansky or Pint Kegsbreath for their misadminstrations. They are only following orders.

Emile

(40,552 posts)

2. Dip-shit Trump is going to take us into a world war.

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:20 PM

Dec 11

Johonny

(25,397 posts)

4. Iran needs oil. There's like none there, right?

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:29 PM

Dec 11

Justice matters.

(9,357 posts)

6. Their lies don't make any sense.

Reply to Johonny (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:45 PM

Dec 11

Iran doesn't need any oil from Venezuela!

LiberalArkie

(19,272 posts)

17. Venezuela may need Iran or Russian oil though.. Venezuela's oil is a heavy type that needs a lot of refining to make

Reply to Justice matters. (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:04 PM

Dec 11

gasoline. Russian and Irans and US does not.

Extra-heavy crude oil
Venezuelan oil primarily consists of extra-heavy crude oil, which is highly viscous and dense, making it more challenging and expensive to extract compared to conventional crude oil. This type of oil is produced mainly in the Orinoco Belt, which is known for its significant reserves of extra-heavy crude oil.

RussBLib

(10,423 posts)

7. yeah, Iran only has the 3rd largest reserves of oil

Reply to Johonny (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:51 PM

Dec 11

behind only Venezuela and Saudi Arabia. I sensed the sarcasm.

VZ's oil is very heavy and dirty and needs special refineries, and VZ has had difficulty keeping their heavy-crude refineries operating. They could be exporting their sludge to China or Russia, which are expanding their heavy-crude refineries. Of course, the US has quite a number of heavy-crude refineries, perfect for VZ's oil.

It doesn't make sense that VZ would be importing crude oil, unless perhaps it's the very light crude that is easy to refine and closest to use by the consumer.

I wonder what type of crude was on this tanker? Or if there was any oil on it at all? Considering who is "in charge" in Washington, we won't get the truth of what's going on for a long while. Lying is what they are best at, and they suck at it.

https://russblib.blogspot.com

Melon

(1,071 posts)

13. Iran is not taking oil. The tanker was used for Venezuela and Iran oil.

Reply to RussBLib (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:30 PM

Dec 11

China, India, etc buy the oil.

Igel

(37,355 posts)

20. From the OP.

Reply to Johonny (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:57 PM

Dec 11

She said Wednesday the oil was being transported from Venezuela and Iran.

underpants

(194,829 posts)

5. Mmmm that's not my reading of it.

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:30 PM

Dec 11

I think Putin and Lavrov are flexing a bit for the oil traders. Ukraine too. Venezuela is an oil trading and military ally in South America.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%E2%80%93Venezuela_relations

erronis

(22,634 posts)

9. It's amazing how much reasonably-current information Wikipedia has on such specific topics.

Reply to underpants (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:05 PM

Dec 11

I know, we all know, that some of the content may be inaccurate at times but it does get corrected and allows for transparency in the updates.

No wonder the powers-that-be don't like it.

Every now and then I refresh my copy of their entire opus - just in case.

underpants

(194,829 posts)

18. It's a go to general knowledge source

Reply to erronis (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:31 PM

Dec 11

I don’t like the recent changes. It used to fit my phone perfectly. Up down not expand and left & right.

littlemissmartypants

(31,607 posts)

19. I love wikipedia. I have a recurring donation. Damn righteous nerds. Hahaha. 🤓

Reply to erronis (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:51 PM

Dec 11

Warpy

(114,381 posts)

10. It was either Russian or Iranian, both are under sanctions

Reply to Javaman (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:14 PM

Dec 11

It seems that this time they dotted the "is" and crossed the "ts" and got a warrant before they did anything. Seems like this one was a righteous bust and it was closer to Curacao thehn Venezuela.