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demmiblue

(39,213 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:07 PM Dec 11

In bizarre, self-pitying tirade, unraveling Trump admits his polling is actually pretty bad and not at record highs...

In bizarre, self-pitying tirade, unraveling Trump admits his polling is actually pretty bad and not at record highs, as he keeps claiming

In bizarre, self-pitying tirade, unraveling Trump admits his polling is actually pretty bad and not at record highs, as he keeps claiming

Greg Sargent (@gregsargent.bsky.social) 2025-12-11T19:38:24.505Z
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In bizarre, self-pitying tirade, unraveling Trump admits his polling is actually pretty bad and not at record highs... (Original Post) demmiblue Dec 11 OP
I don't think he's even writing these leftstreet Dec 11 #1
The right-wingnut polls were so far off in November .. pat_k Dec 11 #6
I Think That's Been True For A While ProfessorGAC Dec 11 #10
I hadn't even thought of that leftstreet Dec 11 #11
The problem is, the 2024 economy was good Johonny Dec 11 #2
I inherited a mess BOSSHOG Dec 11 #3
"Inherited a Mess"... Wuddles440 Dec 11 #8
People who should really be worrying about Trump's polls is 2026 GOP candidates who duct taped themselves to him. dutch777 Dec 11 #4
His brain is scrambled eggs. RandySF Dec 11 #5
Trump's entire tweet can be summed up as "WAAAANHHHHH!!!". LudwigPastorius Dec 11 #7
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 11 #9
Ooooh, the "stock market hit an all-time high", how impressive! AZJonnie Dec 11 #12

leftstreet

(38,779 posts)
1. I don't think he's even writing these
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:11 PM
Dec 11

They just sound so off lately. He ranted at that rally in PA like he really believes what he's being told by his handlers. And his late night tweets sound like someone trying to SOUND like him.

I think he's in much worse shape than we know

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
6. The right-wingnut polls were so far off in November ..
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:23 PM
Dec 11

... they had to get a bit more real. But even their numbers still have his approval inflated. The felon is a long way from seeing how bad things are for him.

Never say never, but I see no way the vicious downward cycle of wild unpopularity could be turned around. When people begin to see the light, it is hard to unsee it.

Whether the psychopathic malignant narcissist is decompensating or not, he is destined for an achievement he isn't going to like: the most reviled and loathed president in history

Trump is wildly unpopular. And Christian Nationalist overreach is pissing more and more people off. For example, in November a number of school board candidates swept into office by the "bathroom wars" were swept back out of office as communities saw how these crazies disrupted their schools (and people really don't like chaos and nonsense in their local schools).

There are many indicators that Democrats have gained something like 7 to 13 points much faster than I think we could have hoped for.












ProfessorGAC

(75,839 posts)
10. I Think That's Been True For A While
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:11 PM
Dec 11

Most of them we can tell which were ghost written and which were mentally puked out by him.
Now, they all seem the sane, suggesting they're all ghost written. Not 60%. Not 80% All.
Then, an IT person sets up commands to send them out every 5 minutes in the middle of the night to give the appearance that he's up & "working".
The lies are still there (like in the rant pasted in the OP about inheriting an economic mess when 2024 inflation was 2.9%, lower than this year) but, all of them are practiced liars so the lies aren't a tell.
You don't believe he's writing these. I'll go further; I'm sure he's not.

leftstreet

(38,779 posts)
11. I hadn't even thought of that
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:31 PM
Dec 11
Then, an IT person sets up commands to send them out every 5 minutes in the middle of the night to give the appearance that he's up & "working".


Duh. Of course!

Johonny

(25,406 posts)
2. The problem is, the 2024 economy was good
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:12 PM
Dec 11

By most standards. Nothing Trump has done is good for the long term economy. Worse, he ran on deflation. Something that us hard to pull off in a booming economy. Nor a likely result of his policies. . . Trump has set up Trump to fail.

Had he just quietly kept Bidens policies, he be better off. LOL, couldn't happen to a worse pile of crap.

BOSSHOG

(44,730 posts)
3. I inherited a mess
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:14 PM
Dec 11

As opposed to Ask not what Your Country can do for you. Varying leadership skills huh?

I recall a Young Sailor being “visited” by a higher echelon in the previous century. He had some problems with his bookkeeping. His initial response, “I’ve only been here for two years.” Republican candidate material.

Wuddles440

(1,960 posts)
8. "Inherited a Mess"...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 05:09 PM
Dec 11

Only if he thinks he's ruling Russia or aspires to do so and that may be a bridge too far even for Putin.

dutch777

(4,869 posts)
4. People who should really be worrying about Trump's polls is 2026 GOP candidates who duct taped themselves to him.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 04:14 PM
Dec 11

Even if they had a Plan B to distance themselves from him for 2026, they 1) don't have enough time to get that stench off and 2 )have no viable better ideas or policies to propose to sell themselves.

AZJonnie

(2,770 posts)
12. Ooooh, the "stock market hit an all-time high", how impressive!
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:44 PM
Dec 11

So I just looked it up and downloaded end-of-date Dow values for the past 10 years.

Here's what I found:
The previous 'all-time record day' was November 12, 2025: 48254.82
Today's DOW closed at: 48704

So that's a nice increase over the previous high, to whit: 449.18, or a +0.093% increase over the previous high.

The overall % increase on a given all-time high day vs. previous all-time high day over this 10 year span was: +0.037%. So +0.093% is a somewhat impressively large increase vs the previous all-time day, a bigger increase than most, I'll concede that point.

HOWEVER, also of note: is that 'new all-time highs' have been set on 278 days out of the possible 3651 days, or 7.5% of days are a 'new all-time high', on average. Put another way, on average, there is a new 'all-time high' set every 13.1 days. It had been 29 days since the last 'all-time high' so he was off-track vs. average regularity of new highs, so a larger % increase than usual could be argued was 'due' (though that 13.1 days is a very generalized calculation that could be done another way with greater accuracy, but I'm not doing my college thesis here lol).

More importantly, when there's a new all-time high on average every 13 days for the past 10 years, how impressive is any one particular all-time high day, really?

And anyways, one could argue that stock prices are really not a particularly great indicator of how well 'the people' are doing, day-to-day. They're mostly a measure of 'corporate profits'. Which is, in many ways, a reflection of how much average people are getting gouged and sucked dry.





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