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mysteryowl

(7,976 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 12:50 PM Dec 11

I think tech is going to force us to use AI

I see more and more giant companies buying up "open AI" for billions.
This can only mean that they are going to force us to use it so they can make more money off of the rest of us.

I do what I can to turn it off on my computer, but it is getting harder. The updates reinstall things I shut off.


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I think tech is going to force us to use AI (Original Post) mysteryowl Dec 11 OP
I'm having a hard time seeing how AI is a good thing cyclonefence Dec 11 #1
ChatGTP is like the very tip of the iceberg. milestogo Dec 11 #27
AI should be illegal, imo. SheltieLover Dec 11 #2
append -ai to your searches and that gets rid of it... dwp6577 Dec 11 #3
I use DuckDuckGo for internet searches mysteryowl Dec 11 #8
DDG search makes ai-results opitional (at least in the desktop version) but some sneaks through. usonian Dec 11 #15
I never see any AI recommendations/summaries from DDG mysteryowl Dec 11 #17
I use it. I meant image search. Looking for an ai result block on the main page. usonian Dec 11 #19
I don't see what you are seeing mysteryowl Dec 11 #23
Tor is Firefox inside. usonian Dec 11 #24
Check out Chris Titus Tech on YouTube. cayugafalls Dec 11 #4
Thanks, because I fight with windows11 mysteryowl Dec 11 #9
You're welcome! ;-) cayugafalls Dec 11 #31
A.I. Is for Shareholders OC375 Dec 11 #5
AI is coming for your kids dweller Dec 11 #6
The Disney buy of 1B of open AI is why I posted this mysteryowl Dec 11 #10
OpenAI partnered with at least one toy company, too - Mattel. Not sure if there've been others. highplainsdem Dec 11 #29
21st century needs require 21st century tools... anciano Dec 11 #7
I know there are believers, I am not one. mysteryowl Dec 11 #11
It just steals all our art and creativity LostOne4Ever Dec 11 #13
There are reports... Chemical Bill Dec 11 #30
Yesterday I needed to call AAA because I had a tire problem kimbutgar Dec 11 #12
PayPal IMO is 90% AI mysteryowl Dec 11 #14
Got lost and needed a ride recently berniesandersmittens Dec 11 #25
The future is open source, for example linux. usonian Dec 11 #16
Let us know on DU when you reinvent the internet mysteryowl Dec 11 #18
DU will be the first to know! usonian Dec 11 #20
It's a good reason to use Linux. hunter Dec 11 #21
Absolutely KT2000 Dec 11 #22
AI will give us advice that Putin and orange fatso want us to get nt wolfie001 Dec 11 #26
Most of my office are gleeful adapters. maxsolomon Dec 11 #28

cyclonefence

(5,144 posts)
1. I'm having a hard time seeing how AI is a good thing
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 12:54 PM
Dec 11

The only place I knowingly encounter AI is when I Google a question, and I skip the AI answer.

I am most concerned with the job losses it will bring, and then the tremendous amount of electricity it requires.

But maybe I'm just an old fogy, a Luddite of the first water.

milestogo

(22,540 posts)
27. ChatGTP is like the very tip of the iceberg.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:59 PM
Dec 11

If you want to see how many AI programs there are, check out this website: https://theresanaiforthat.com/

To put it succinctly, AI greatly increases efficiency. It can do the job of 10-20 people faster and more accurately. So companies love it. It saves them the money they used to spend on employees. If you are in advertising, for example, you don't have to have copywriters, actors, a studio for filming or any of that stuff. A person with the right AI tool can produce ads at their desk in less than an hour.

Nobody has addressed the issue of how millions of people without jobs are supposed to buy anything. If we had a guaranteed universal basic income then AI might free us from having to work. But I don't see that happening as long as we have a fascist oligarchy in charge.

usonian

(23,510 posts)
15. DDG search makes ai-results opitional (at least in the desktop version) but some sneaks through.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:29 PM
Dec 11

So, who else is perfect?

usonian

(23,510 posts)
19. I use it. I meant image search. Looking for an ai result block on the main page.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:37 PM
Dec 11


There are several privacy search engines.

DDG can be a PITA, in that I have to prompt it like crazy not to get completely irrelevant results.

They are big on returning movies, restaurants and books to buy instead of my search term.

Gets tiring.

mysteryowl

(7,976 posts)
23. I don't see what you are seeing
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:26 PM
Dec 11

I use firefox with private brower.
The only two things are Region and time options. Nothing else.

I opened my TOR browser and I see more including what you show.

usonian

(23,510 posts)
24. Tor is Firefox inside.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:40 PM
Dec 11

Interesting. I showed the image page, not the general search page.
The options are different.

I could customize search but I am pretty sure I am using a cookie cleaner, so settings on most sites don't "stick" and I don't bother to chase them down.

I have way too many extensions but most are pretty cool.

I'll share some in Computer Support one of these days.

Biggest lifesaver is GhostText, which I got to work with Firefox, Safari and Opera (desktop only)

It echoes these text boxes with a limited number of text editors (I use Sublime Text for free) and they never forget the text. Great for long submissions. It does reset on "Preview" but that also is free versioning.

cayugafalls

(5,955 posts)
4. Check out Chris Titus Tech on YouTube.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:01 PM
Dec 11

I use his debloating tool for win 11 and it works quite well.

Watch and learn though because he is pretty advanced and his tool can remove or disable almost everything in windows…so be cautious..lol

Peace

cayugafalls

(5,955 posts)
31. You're welcome! ;-)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 03:47 PM
Dec 11

We all struggle with Windows...

Most IT people would rather use Linux but corporations use windows because that is what has floated to the top for some reason.

Personally, I believe that if Bill Gates had not made a deal back in the 90's during the monopoly trials, Windows would have died. But instead, he learned that you have to pay the piper (grease the politicians) in order to have a monopoly.

So he paid...30 years later, Linux is still better because no one really owns the source code, but windows dominates because of that grease.

(I know they kind of broke it up...but not really...it was all smoke and mirrors once his dad told him that he could either pay the politicians or suffer their wrath)

OC375

(428 posts)
5. A.I. Is for Shareholders
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:03 PM
Dec 11

ROI, quarter after quarter, in perpetuity. It has little to do with planning bucolic car trips or making your blog more appealing. All that is incidental and will eventually be commoditized. They appreciate the support though.

dweller

(27,833 posts)
6. AI is coming for your kids
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:12 PM
Dec 11
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/11/business/media/disney-openai-sora-deal.html

Disney Agrees to Bring Its Characters to OpenAI’s Sora Videos

The deal is a watershed for Hollywood, which has been trying to sort through the possible harms and upsides of generative artificial intelligence

😠



✌🏻

highplainsdem

(59,946 posts)
29. OpenAI partnered with at least one toy company, too - Mattel. Not sure if there've been others.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 03:04 PM
Dec 11

anciano

(2,193 posts)
7. 21st century needs require 21st century tools...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:12 PM
Dec 11

AI now plays an important role in our modern lives, and contrary to the idea that it dumbs people down, AI doesn't diminish our intelligence, just as calculators don't lessen our understanding of mathematics.

LostOne4Ever

(9,734 posts)
13. It just steals all our art and creativity
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:18 PM
Dec 11

Making it so that no one can make a living any more in art, writing, acting, or anything else all the while allowing corporations to make sure that the only media we consume is pro-fascist.

It’s great

Chemical Bill

(3,048 posts)
30. There are reports...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 03:27 PM
Dec 11

of AI giving wrong answers. It is only as good as the script it is given. Especially when AI reads reich-wing media as a source. And AI has no morals.

Speaking of calculators, younger grocery store clerks don't always seem to be able to make change unless the cash register tells them how.

kimbutgar

(26,792 posts)
12. Yesterday I needed to call AAA because I had a tire problem
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:17 PM
Dec 11

I never spoke to a human being like in the past and it was texting with me the whole experience. But I did get updates on my phone and the tow truck driver arrived promptly.

My friend who I was visiting used DoorDash and the delivery was incorrect she called to report it and it was all AI which kept hanging up on her. After being aggravated she finally got a human being who resolved her problem with her order.

mysteryowl

(7,976 posts)
14. PayPal IMO is 90% AI
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:27 PM
Dec 11

So is Microsoft. It is miserable trying to talk with a human being. The AI just puts you in circles then hangs up on you. I finally figured out what to say on the phone to get help, "trouble with my account". That put me in touch with a real person.

usonian

(23,510 posts)
16. The future is open source, for example linux.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:30 PM
Dec 11

Linux is anything that developers (or you) want it to be.
If you can't figure how to turn AI off, some developer will tweak linux to turn it off.

Unfortunately, the entire damn internet is turning into one AI slop-fest, so Stay tuned as

I re-invent the internet.

Like a steady rain on a pile of shit. Let's make it good again.



usonian

(23,510 posts)
20. DU will be the first to know!
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:48 PM
Dec 11

Du and Hacker News are fine examples of what's best.

Both are heavily moderated, surprise.



coming

hunter

(40,366 posts)
21. It's a good reason to use Linux.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:00 PM
Dec 11

I quit a very stripped down version of Widows 98SE for Linux and have never looked back. With Linux I have full control over what gets upgraded and what doesn't. New "features" are not installed automatically. The computer belongs to me, it's not some extension of the Borg.

Unfortunately the fascists are probably going to lock down all new computers and force people to pick their poison: Microsoft, Apple, or Android.

I'm still resisting smart phones, having given up on my quest to avoid cell phones entirely, but my choices are being limited. At the moment I have a dumb old 4G LTE flip phone. I recently got a replacement battery for it so it should be good for a few more years.

I'll be sad if I ever have to buy a car with built-in tracking devices and other "smart" features. My 20+ year old car has a computer that controls the fuel injectors and ignition. That's as smart as it gets.

For now, the "artificial intelligence" features of duckduckgo can be turned off. I'll find another search engine if they become intrusive.

Resistance is possible.

KT2000

(21,936 posts)
22. Absolutely
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 11

I live in one of 6 states that will use AI for Medicare to determine care. It is the health insurance system of denials as I understand it.

wolfie001

(7,069 posts)
26. AI will give us advice that Putin and orange fatso want us to get nt
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 02:49 PM
Dec 11

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