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Botany

(76,388 posts) Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:49 AM Dec 11

Why isn't this a crime? "US seizes oil tanker off Venezuelan coast." Trump wants to steal Venezuela' oil.

I hope Venezuela goes to the I.C.C. or the U.N. or somebody and brings some can of action against
Trump and the United States. This is a crime. I hope foreign nations recall their ambassadors and
fire a warning shot by starting to sell off some of their U.S. treasures. This is a preclude to an un-
-needed war against the people of Venezuela. Venezuela can sell THEIR OIL to whomever they
want to Trump does not get to set the rules of the war.

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The United States seized an oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela on Wednesday, President Donald Trump said, escalating US pressure on President Nicolas Maduro’s regime.

“As you probably know we’ve just seized a tanker on the coast of Venezuela,” Trump said. “Large tanker, very large, largest one ever seized, actually.”

Attorney General Pam Bondi said the tanker has been sanctioned by the US for multiple years “due to its involvement in an illicit oil shipping network supporting foreign terrorist organizations,” including Venezuela and Iran.

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President Trump did not offer any detailed explanation for the move, saying only that the vessel was seized “for very good reason.” Asked what would happen to the oil the tanker was transporting, Trump said, “We keep it, I guess.”

The seizure occurred in international waters, a senior US official said, and proceeded without incident or casualties either among the US personnel or the tanker’s crew.

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The ship, which was headed to Cuba, was ultimately destined for Asia after being brokered through Cuban sellers, the senior official said, adding that additional seizures are possible in the coming weeks as the US applies pressure on Maduro.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/10/politics/oil-tanker-seized-venezuela

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This is an act of piracy and I can’t help to think this has to do with Epstein.
Trump and his advisers are international criminals. Trump is a mad man.

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Why isn't this a crime? "US seizes oil tanker off Venezuelan coast." Trump wants to steal Venezuela' oil. (Original Post) Botany Dec 11 OP

It IS a crime. It's called piracy. travelingthrulife Dec 11 #1

The ship was sanctioned under the Biden administration Sympthsical Dec 11 #2

What the US did was not valid, gab13by13 Dec 11 #7

Do you disagree with the Biden administration's actions? Sympthsical Dec 11 #11

I think that's right, we're acting as pirates. bucolic_frolic Dec 11 #3

Krasnov is just returning the favor gab13by13 Dec 11 #4

As usual, whoever is in charge gets to decide what is a crime and what isn't. walkingman Dec 11 #5

"Large tanker, very large, largest one ever...actually, bigger than Noah's Ark!"--DJT RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 11 #6

I watch Ancient Aliens, gab13by13 Dec 11 #8

Fun Fact, Pam Bondi and Tom Homan were both set to make money off of the ICE jail in Florida. Botany Dec 11 #12

Bondi wants me to believe Iran buys oil Johonny Dec 11 #9

LOL ! n/t librechik Dec 11 #10

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)

1. It IS a crime. It's called piracy.

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:50 AM

Dec 11

Sympthsical

(10,849 posts)

2. The ship was sanctioned under the Biden administration

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:56 AM

Dec 11

What the U.S. did here was valid.

Does it suit dual purpose for Trump fucking with Venezuela? Yes.

But there's an entire history, with this ship in particular. People are reacting without having the full context.

And let me just say, the media have been atrocious at providing the context. Yeah, people yammering on Twitter out of ignorance is one thing. But how ostensibly credible news articles are just omitting the full circumstances is extremely weird.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/sep/18/how-a-burnt-out-abandoned-ship-reveals-the-secrets-of-a-shadow-tanker-network

It's interesting reading. Took me 30 seconds to find on Google. But I'm not a highly paid media personality or Twitter expert, so who knows.

gab13by13

(31,198 posts)

7. What the US did was not valid,

Reply to Sympthsical (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:12 AM

Dec 11

What the US did was an effort to remove Maduro from power to allow US companies to steal the oil.

There are plenty of oil tankers that are violating sanctions across the globe. A Ukraine sea drone just blew one up. If Krasnov is concerned about tankers violating sanctions he needs to take his military fleet to China, Turkey, or Russia.

The Guardian isn't the same news organization it once was.

Sympthsical

(10,849 posts)

11. Do you disagree with the Biden administration's actions?

Reply to gab13by13 (Reply #7)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:24 AM

Dec 11

Do you disagree with Ukraine's actions?

If so, can you explain why you disagree with those actions?

bucolic_frolic

(54,020 posts)

3. I think that's right, we're acting as pirates.

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:04 AM

Dec 11

Not a military operation when using the military for private gain. Split some hairs!

gab13by13

(31,198 posts)

4. Krasnov is just returning the favor

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:05 AM

Dec 11

for the fossil fuel industry keeping gasoline prices relatively low. Just imagine what inflation would be with gasoline at higher prices?

Krasnov has also given them permission to drill off the coasts of Florida and Alaska. Krasnov has given them government land to drill on.

Krasnov is the #1 Socialist president of all time, 12 billion to farmers, 20 billion to Argentina.

Krasnov has bought stock in private companies enough stock to have control over those companies.

The #1 Socialist president by far, his efforts to oust Maduro would pave the way for US companies to just take the oil.

walkingman

(10,333 posts)

5. As usual, whoever is in charge gets to decide what is a crime and what isn't.

Reply to Botany (Original post)

Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:08 AM

Dec 11

I'm convinced that at least for now, while we are a functioning Democracy, we get the government we deserve. Once it's gone, that will not be the case.