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Tanuki

(16,296 posts)
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:25 AM Dec 11

Amanda Seyfried "not fucking apologizing" for Charlie Kirk comment

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/amanda-seyfried-says-m-not-230313607.html
"Amanda Seyfried told Who What Wear on her press tour for “The Testament of Ann Lee” that she refuses to apologize for calling Charlie Kirk “hateful” after the Turning Point USA co-founder was shot and killed earlier this year.

“I’m not fucking apologizing for that,” Seyfried said. “I mean, for fuck’s sake, I commented on one thing. I said something that was based on actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes. What I said was pretty damn factual, and I’m free to have an opinion, of course. Thank God for Instagram. I was able to give some clarity, and it was about getting my voice back because I felt like it had been stolen and recontextualized—which is what people do, of course.”
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"I don’t want to add fuel to a fire. I just want to be able to give clarity to something so irresponsibly (but understandably) taken out of context. Spirited discourse – isn’t that what we should be having?” Seyfried wrote in the post’s caption.

“We’re forgetting the nuance of humanity,” she went on to explain. “I can get angry about misogyny and racist rhetoric and ALSO very much agree that Charlie Kirk’s murder was absolutely disturbing and deplorable in every way imaginable. No one should have to experience this level of violence. This country is grieving too many senseless and violent deaths and shootings. Can we agree on that at least?”
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Amanda Seyfried "not fucking apologizing" for Charlie Kirk comment (Original Post) Tanuki Dec 11 OP
She is right jonstl08 Dec 11 #1
For some reason being seen as "christian" is important... ananda Dec 11 #13
Yeah, those who claim to love JAYYYZUS Wednesdays Dec 11 #16
Exactly. ananda Dec 11 #25
As long ago as the 90s soldierant Dec 11 #42
They fantasize about Jay-sus returning on horseback with a sword cutting off sinners' heads wolfie001 Dec 11 #20
Sometimes I wonder if there's LSD in their tap water. Dave Bowman Dec 11 #29
..... wolfie001 Dec 11 #33
They want god to endorse their hatred paleotn Dec 11 #22
Charlie Kirk was hateful. Deliberately and calculatedly so. yardwork Dec 11 #2
Yep...it can be true that Bettie Dec 11 #3
The world is a better place without Kirk Blues Heron Dec 11 #4
It really is Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 17 #50
she's right... agingdem Dec 11 #5
I keep thinking... get the red out Dec 11 #6
These right wingers should stop trying to make fetch happen Prairie Gates Dec 11 #7
Who is . . . AverageOldGuy Dec 11 #8
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Dec 11 #9
Sometimes I Eschew The "Nuance of Humanity." Know... ColoringFool Dec 11 #10
Charlie Kirk thought that violence was perfectly acceptable to preserve our guns. travelingthrulife Dec 11 #11
Not Just "Violence"; He Said "Gun Deaths." ColoringFool Dec 11 #12
Yup. His death was a remarkable sacrifice to save our precious guns. travelingthrulife Dec 11 #14
Yup, truth hurts...MAGA needs to put on their big boy/girl shorts and deal with reality....nt mitch96 Dec 11 #15
But...but...but...Reality has a dam librul bias!! mwmisses4289 Dec 11 #24
K&R UTUSN Dec 11 #17
Good for her! wolfie001 Dec 11 #18
I'm still tangled up in this Charlie Kirk hate-fog cesspool. democrank Dec 11 #19
Don't hold your breath... GiqueCee Dec 11 #36
Amen Sister. NCDem47 Dec 11 #21
MAGA has attacked people for sharing his own actual quotes on social media IronLionZion Dec 11 #23
MAGAts have a loose relationship MontanaMama Dec 11 #26
Republicans have always... GiqueCee Dec 11 #37
I love her even more! Traildogbob Dec 11 #27
Love her movies and share her sentiments on the MAGA street gang leader. Crowman2009 Dec 11 #28
Good for her DBoon Dec 11 #30
Defiant Hollywood star delivers profane clapback amid MAGA outrage to Charlie Kirk remark LetMyPeopleVote Dec 11 #31
Charlie Kirk getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom... BH liberal Dec 11 #32
They've totally destroyed the meaning of the medal. slightlv Dec 11 #35
Amanda, you are 100% correct!!!! johnnyfins Dec 11 #34
You GO, Mandy! GiqueCee Dec 11 #38
i'm not either ! Fullduplexxx Dec 11 #39
To be honest, she said nothing wrong. WarGamer Dec 11 #40
Charlie Kirk was a hateful DrMJG10 Dec 11 #41
Seyfried's comments make it hard for the grieving widow Orrex Dec 11 #43
Good for her. Swede Dec 11 #44
Why should she? EnergizedLib Dec 11 #45
I agree with her 100% and this meme tells you what he really was kimbutgar Dec 11 #46
She's got a movie coming up with Sydney Sweeney. Should be an interesting couple of weeks on the old interwebs. Iggo Dec 11 #47
I'd recommend The DropOut to anyone who missed it jfz9580m Dec 12 #48
And she shouldn't. Charlie Kirk sucked by the way. Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 17 #49

jonstl08

(540 posts)
1. She is right
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:34 AM
Dec 11

For the life of me I cannot understand how people think Kirk was a Christian. I had to go noncontact with family members because they thought God was speaking through Kirk. And to think a good portion of this countries population thinks the same means we are tuly screwed.

PS. His widow is sure not acting like the grieving widow. Not very Christian of her.

ananda

(34,405 posts)
13. For some reason being seen as "christian" is important...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:58 AM
Dec 11

even though, in practice, they are nothing even close to
Christian... more like following the OT Senex god who
was mean and hateful.

Wednesdays

(21,581 posts)
16. Yeah, those who claim to love JAYYYZUS
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:08 AM
Dec 11

Don't care very much about what he actually said.

ananda

(34,405 posts)
25. Exactly.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:36 AM
Dec 11

My sister and I were talking about this a couple of days ago.

I was telling her that our Irish Catholic roots were truly
Christian.

Our ancestors truly followed the teachings of Christ and were
so good to others, not racist in any way, and strongly engaged
in Democratic politics.

My grandmother's first cousin, Robert Lippert, taught at a
Catholic university in St Paul for 34 years until around 1989,
and he risked his life and his job as an activist for civil rights
and peace for vulnerable people.

My mother was the same way. She ran the St Vincent de Paul
Society at her church for many years. She didn't believe in
poor shaming. Anyone who came in for help got it immediately,
no questions asked.

soldierant

(9,285 posts)
42. As long ago as the 90s
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:12 PM
Dec 11

there was a bumper sticker which read "Jesus called. He wants his church back."

Granted it's even worse now.

wolfie001

(7,085 posts)
20. They fantasize about Jay-sus returning on horseback with a sword cutting off sinners' heads
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:23 AM
Dec 11
That's basically how they think. F6cking clowns.

paleotn

(21,527 posts)
22. They want god to endorse their hatred
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:13 AM
Dec 11

Helps them sleep at night. That’s really all it is.

As for Kirk-ette, the grift continues. That’s all they’ve ever been. Thieves, liars and cheats.

Bettie

(19,270 posts)
3. Yep...it can be true that
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 08:51 AM
Dec 11

someone was a hateful person and also true that they didn't deserve to be murdered.

Kirk did, however, revel in the murders of others.

Doesn't mean he deserved to die, but it does mean he wasn't a good person in any sense.

agingdem

(8,769 posts)
5. she's right...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:14 AM
Dec 11

and malevolent cretins do not become holy or forgivable in death, regardless how they died..

get the red out

(13,955 posts)
6. I keep thinking...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:18 AM
Dec 11

I would imagine there were some less than flattering social media posts when Dick Cheney recently died. I haven't heard of any in particular, probably because MAGAs wouldn't care (and probably posted their own). At LEAST Cheney was a former VP, and not just some campus agitator.

AverageOldGuy

(3,336 posts)
8. Who is . . .
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 09:39 AM
Dec 11

. . . this "Charlie Kirk" person?

And why should I care except for the fact that he was murdered, which should not happen to anyone (well, maybe except Stephen Millier).

Besides, from what I read, his grieving widow is doing quite well -- living off Charlie's grift while simulating sex (I guess she was simulating) with the Vice President on stage in front of an audience of hundreds.

mitch96

(15,650 posts)
15. Yup, truth hurts...MAGA needs to put on their big boy/girl shorts and deal with reality....nt
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:03 AM
Dec 11

wolfie001

(7,085 posts)
18. Good for her!
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:20 AM
Dec 11

The rePUKES are hate-filled bullies and they never give up. In Britain, it's JK Rowling and Nigel Farage. F6ck them.

democrank

(12,126 posts)
19. I'm still tangled up in this Charlie Kirk hate-fog cesspool.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:21 AM
Dec 11

Our millionaire, mainstream media anchors will at some point refuse to participate in this Kirk/Hero crap, right? They’ll just start playing clips of Kirk’s disgusting racism and misogyny, right?They’ll make certain their viewers/listeners understand the truth that Kirk was anti-American to his core, right? Any day now…..any day…..

GiqueCee

(3,402 posts)
36. Don't hold your breath...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:10 PM
Dec 11

... the majority of today's Republicans are carved out of the same turd as that malicious shitstain. I'm old enough to remember when it was possible to have Republican friends and just agree to disagree on certain policy issues. Those days are dead and gone forever. If you're not a textbook sociopath, you ain't welcome in the club.

NCDem47

(3,323 posts)
21. Amen Sister.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:29 AM
Dec 11

Progressives are meant to cower, yet conservatives are free to say whatever they want whenever they want.

It’s a two-way street folks.

IronLionZion

(50,817 posts)
23. MAGA has attacked people for sharing his own actual quotes on social media
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:21 AM
Dec 11

they know those quotes are hateful.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
27. I love her even more!
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:57 AM
Dec 11

And that’s a whole damn lot. I can not wait to see her new movie with Sydney.
I just streamed an entire series with Amanda as a cop, and she was amazing in the role.
I love her fearlessness to stand up to that shit from the right, demanding apologies for factual words, while Trump et al blast bullshit about opposition every damn minute of every day. Kirk was a hate monger, pushing violence, that violence caught up to him from a far righter, being carried out now by his Grieving widow. For continued cash flow.
Amanda reps Bad ass women being bad ass. May save our asses.

Crowman2009

(3,407 posts)
28. Love her movies and share her sentiments on the MAGA street gang leader.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 12:01 PM
Dec 11

TPUSA, groypers, proud boys. They are all just the MAGA equivalent to the bloods and crips. And you know what they always say about folks bragging about violence in the 90's: live by the gun, die by the gun.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,905 posts)
31. Defiant Hollywood star delivers profane clapback amid MAGA outrage to Charlie Kirk remark
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:09 PM
Dec 11

Kirk was an asshole and there is no need to apologize for telling the truth about this asshole

A Hollywood star refused Wednesday to apologize for calling the late Charlie Kirk "hateful" in a defiant and profane new interview.

Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-12-11T11:20:18Z

https://www.rawstory.com/amanda-seyfried

A Hollywood star refused Wednesday to apologize for calling the late Charlie Kirk "hateful" in a defiant and profane new interview.

Following the Sept. 10 shooting at a Utah university campus, the star of "The Housemaid" drew criticism after characterizing the slain conservative activist as "hateful" in an Instagram comment, according to Variety. A week later, the actress posted on Instagram to distance herself from the backlash, expressing her opposition to violence in a statement that simultaneously took issue with the Turning Point USA founder's political positions.....

She flatly refused to apologize for the characterization.

"I'm not f---ing apologizing for that. I mean, for f---'s sake, I commented on one thing. I said something that was based on actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes. What I said was pretty damn factual, and I'm free to have an opinion, of course," she said. "Thank God for Instagram. I was able to give some clarity, and it was about getting my voice back because I felt like it had been stolen and recontextualized—which is what people do, of course."

Seyfried, the report noted, has politics at the top of her mind. She took a shot at President Donald Trump, too.

"It's always hard to see people who are tricky and harmful have success—like our gorgeous president, the best possible example of that," she said, sarcastically. "It's so weird to sit in a civilized restaurant. People are serving us food. You can't unpack it too much, or else you'll go f---ing insane. Like, how is the world still spinning?"






BH liberal

(121 posts)
32. Charlie Kirk getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom...
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 01:38 PM
Dec 11

was as bad as Rush Limbaugh getting it. Both were demagogues, liars and bigots.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
35. They've totally destroyed the meaning of the medal.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 06:00 PM
Dec 11

NO ONE should ever get one of these ever again. After this mal-administration is finished and done, we need to retire these medals that have been abused and create new ones that actually MEAN something again.

WarGamer

(18,249 posts)
40. To be honest, she said nothing wrong.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:07 PM
Dec 11

She called him hateful, so what?

Not like she said she was happy about what happened.

DrMJG10

(49 posts)
41. Charlie Kirk was a hateful
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 07:13 PM
Dec 11

and racist person who could use a pretty and effective language to mask his true self. Many have tried to canonize him, as apposed to assigning him to the circle of hell he earned!

Orrex

(66,671 posts)
43. Seyfried's comments make it hard for the grieving widow
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 10:08 PM
Dec 11

to cash her residual checks and donations from the late, not-so-great Kirk's fuckhead acolytes.

Seyfried was 100% correct in her original comment, and her follow-up statement was very well constructed.

Iggo

(49,650 posts)
47. She's got a movie coming up with Sydney Sweeney. Should be an interesting couple of weeks on the old interwebs.
Thu Dec 11, 2025, 11:51 PM
Dec 11

jfz9580m

(16,573 posts)
48. I'd recommend The DropOut to anyone who missed it
Fri Dec 12, 2025, 05:12 AM
Dec 12
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dropout


Though apparently Maha wants to resuscitate Holmes..I had been joking to a friend that it will be Vance/Holmes 2028 to prove that Vance likes really professional women..who am I kidding? He thinks women should be barefoot and pregnant..mere sleaziness is inadequate:

The Make America Healthy Again movement—which claims it wants to rescue Americans from the evil clutches of poisonous, self-interested corporations—would appear to have quite questionable taste in heroes. The movement’s figurehead, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., obviously springs to mind, but lately, there’s another figure who seems to be gaining traction with MAHA: disgraced founder of Theranos (arguably a very self-interested corporation), Elizabeth Holmes.

Politico notes that the MAHA movement is glomming onto the convicted fraudster and questioning whether she was unfairly crucified by the justice system. Most notably, MAHA-influencer Jessica Reed Kraus recently wrote an article on her Substack entitled “Elizabeth Holmes’ Redemption Arc Loading.” Kraus writes:

Many still think of Theranos, in which a faulty machine dramatically spews blood as a defunct prop, as the source of her downfall. Digging deeper, I found another (more practical angle) that framed Holmes as a catastrophic threat to a trillion-dollar industry controlled by conglomerates, with masked Pfizer interests looming.

Throughout the blog post, Kraus questions the official narrative surrounding Holmes, seems to compliment the disgraced entrepreneur on her “entrepreneurial advice and reflections on health, faith, and balance,” as well as her praise for “cultural figures such as Elon Musk, RFK Jr., and Charlie Kirk,” and writes that she appreciates the convict’s style of posting on X:

Her diary-like updates offer a window into motherhood behind bars. She has written nearly 3,000 letters to her children, expresses longing and faith, and shares family photos and drawings.

Other people in MAHA’s orbit also seem to have nice things to say about Holmes. For instance, longevity enthusiast Bryan Johnson occasionally chats with Holmes online.

On the one hand, this isn’t the first time that people have tried to view Holmes and Theranos through a slightly more charitable lens. People have noted that she was incredibly young at the time that she started Theranos (19) and that her mission (revolutionizing blood testing) was largely idealistic. On the other hand, the details of Holmes’ misdeeds are well-known, and she was convicted of multiple counts of fraud.

It just sorta makes sense that the MAHA movement would lionize a notorious fraudster as a misunderstood health hero, since critics have argued that MAHA’s prime mover, RFK Jr., offers similarly “misunderstood” solutions to America’s ongoing health crises. While Holmes sold biotechnology services that didn’t work, Kennedy would like you to believe that cod liver oil can cure measles, that America doesn’t need a vaccine advisory committee, that Tylenol gives you autism, and that the person tasked with running the CDC doesn’t need any training in medicine. While Kennedy may earnestly believe these unorthodoxies (just as Holmes may have believed that her biotech firm might, eventually, help lots of people), it doesn’t make them any less damaging to America’s health establishment, nor the millions of Americans who rely on it.

As we’ve previously noted, there are also clear and present obstacles to MAHA’s success. Taking on those trillion-dollar industries controlled by conglomerates that Kraus is critical of requires federal regulatory action and, as we all know, the Trump administration is not a huge fan of that sort of thing. Indeed, under Trump and Kennedy, the federal health bureaucracy is being defanged, not empowered.

It’s not that America couldn’t use a health movement—it could. But, like Kennedy, the MAHA movement seems to put its focus and energies in all the wrong directions.


https://gizmodo.com/the-maha-movement-has-a-new-misunderstood-hero-elizabeth-holmes-2000684876
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