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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAmanda Seyfried "not fucking apologizing" for Charlie Kirk comment
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/celebrity/articles/amanda-seyfried-says-m-not-230313607.html"Amanda Seyfried told Who What Wear on her press tour for The Testament of Ann Lee that she refuses to apologize for calling Charlie Kirk hateful after the Turning Point USA co-founder was shot and killed earlier this year.
Im not fucking apologizing for that, Seyfried said. I mean, for fucks sake, I commented on one thing. I said something that was based on actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes. What I said was pretty damn factual, and Im free to have an opinion, of course. Thank God for Instagram. I was able to give some clarity, and it was about getting my voice back because I felt like it had been stolen and recontextualizedwhich is what people do, of course.
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"I dont want to add fuel to a fire. I just want to be able to give clarity to something so irresponsibly (but understandably) taken out of context. Spirited discourse isnt that what we should be having? Seyfried wrote in the posts caption.
Were forgetting the nuance of humanity, she went on to explain. I can get angry about misogyny and racist rhetoric and ALSO very much agree that Charlie Kirks murder was absolutely disturbing and deplorable in every way imaginable. No one should have to experience this level of violence. This country is grieving too many senseless and violent deaths and shootings. Can we agree on that at least?
jonstl08
(540 posts)For the life of me I cannot understand how people think Kirk was a Christian. I had to go noncontact with family members because they thought God was speaking through Kirk. And to think a good portion of this countries population thinks the same means we are tuly screwed.
PS. His widow is sure not acting like the grieving widow. Not very Christian of her.
ananda
(34,405 posts)even though, in practice, they are nothing even close to
Christian... more like following the OT Senex god who
was mean and hateful.
Wednesdays
(21,581 posts)Don't care very much about what he actually said.
ananda
(34,405 posts)My sister and I were talking about this a couple of days ago.
I was telling her that our Irish Catholic roots were truly
Christian.
Our ancestors truly followed the teachings of Christ and were
so good to others, not racist in any way, and strongly engaged
in Democratic politics.
My grandmother's first cousin, Robert Lippert, taught at a
Catholic university in St Paul for 34 years until around 1989,
and he risked his life and his job as an activist for civil rights
and peace for vulnerable people.
My mother was the same way. She ran the St Vincent de Paul
Society at her church for many years. She didn't believe in
poor shaming. Anyone who came in for help got it immediately,
no questions asked.
soldierant
(9,285 posts)there was a bumper sticker which read "Jesus called. He wants his church back."
Granted it's even worse now.
wolfie001
(7,085 posts)Dave Bowman
(6,636 posts)wolfie001
(7,085 posts)paleotn
(21,527 posts)Helps them sleep at night. Thats really all it is.
As for Kirk-ette, the grift continues. Thats all theyve ever been. Thieves, liars and cheats.
yardwork
(68,966 posts)That is a fact.
Bettie
(19,270 posts)someone was a hateful person and also true that they didn't deserve to be murdered.
Kirk did, however, revel in the murders of others.
Doesn't mean he deserved to die, but it does mean he wasn't a good person in any sense.
Blues Heron
(8,348 posts)Scott Alan Swaggerty
(173 posts)agingdem
(8,769 posts)and malevolent cretins do not become holy or forgivable in death, regardless how they died..
get the red out
(13,955 posts)I would imagine there were some less than flattering social media posts when Dick Cheney recently died. I haven't heard of any in particular, probably because MAGAs wouldn't care (and probably posted their own). At LEAST Cheney was a former VP, and not just some campus agitator.
Prairie Gates
(7,181 posts)Brava, Amanda Seyfried!
AverageOldGuy
(3,336 posts). . . this "Charlie Kirk" person?
And why should I care except for the fact that he was murdered, which should not happen to anyone (well, maybe except Stephen Millier).
Besides, from what I read, his grieving widow is doing quite well -- living off Charlie's grift while simulating sex (I guess she was simulating) with the Vice President on stage in front of an audience of hundreds.
Upthevibe
(10,021 posts)ColoringFool
(254 posts)What I mean, Vern?
travelingthrulife
(4,463 posts)ColoringFool
(254 posts)travelingthrulife
(4,463 posts)mitch96
(15,650 posts)mwmisses4289
(3,221 posts)Ah cain't deal with that!! 😱😱😱
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wolfie001
(7,085 posts)The rePUKES are hate-filled bullies and they never give up. In Britain, it's JK Rowling and Nigel Farage. F6ck them.
democrank
(12,126 posts)Our millionaire, mainstream media anchors will at some point refuse to participate in this Kirk/Hero crap, right? Theyll just start playing clips of Kirks disgusting racism and misogyny, right?Theyll make certain their viewers/listeners understand the truth that Kirk was anti-American to his core, right? Any day now ..any day ..
GiqueCee
(3,402 posts)... the majority of today's Republicans are carved out of the same turd as that malicious shitstain. I'm old enough to remember when it was possible to have Republican friends and just agree to disagree on certain policy issues. Those days are dead and gone forever. If you're not a textbook sociopath, you ain't welcome in the club.
NCDem47
(3,323 posts)Progressives are meant to cower, yet conservatives are free to say whatever they want whenever they want.
Its a two-way street folks.
IronLionZion
(50,817 posts)they know those quotes are hateful.
MontanaMama
(24,615 posts)with the truth.
GiqueCee
(3,402 posts)... made full use of the inherent elasticity of truth.
Traildogbob
(12,561 posts)And thats a whole damn lot. I can not wait to see her new movie with Sydney.
I just streamed an entire series with Amanda as a cop, and she was amazing in the role.
I love her fearlessness to stand up to that shit from the right, demanding apologies for factual words, while Trump et al blast bullshit about opposition every damn minute of every day. Kirk was a hate monger, pushing violence, that violence caught up to him from a far righter, being carried out now by his Grieving widow. For continued cash flow.
Amanda reps Bad ass women being bad ass. May save our asses.
Crowman2009
(3,407 posts)TPUSA, groypers, proud boys. They are all just the MAGA equivalent to the bloods and crips. And you know what they always say about folks bragging about violence in the 90's: live by the gun, die by the gun.
DBoon
(24,714 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,905 posts)Kirk was an asshole and there is no need to apologize for telling the truth about this asshole
A Hollywood star refused Wednesday to apologize for calling the late Charlie Kirk "hateful" in a defiant and profane new interview.
— Raw Story (@rawstory.com) 2025-12-11T11:20:18Z
https://www.rawstory.com/amanda-seyfried
Following the Sept. 10 shooting at a Utah university campus, the star of "The Housemaid" drew criticism after characterizing the slain conservative activist as "hateful" in an Instagram comment, according to Variety. A week later, the actress posted on Instagram to distance herself from the backlash, expressing her opposition to violence in a statement that simultaneously took issue with the Turning Point USA founder's political positions.....
She flatly refused to apologize for the characterization.
"I'm not f---ing apologizing for that. I mean, for f---'s sake, I commented on one thing. I said something that was based on actual reality and actual footage and actual quotes. What I said was pretty damn factual, and I'm free to have an opinion, of course," she said. "Thank God for Instagram. I was able to give some clarity, and it was about getting my voice back because I felt like it had been stolen and recontextualizedwhich is what people do, of course."
Seyfried, the report noted, has politics at the top of her mind. She took a shot at President Donald Trump, too.
"It's always hard to see people who are tricky and harmful have successlike our gorgeous president, the best possible example of that," she said, sarcastically. "It's so weird to sit in a civilized restaurant. People are serving us food. You can't unpack it too much, or else you'll go f---ing insane. Like, how is the world still spinning?"
BH liberal
(121 posts)was as bad as Rush Limbaugh getting it. Both were demagogues, liars and bigots.
slightlv
(7,438 posts)NO ONE should ever get one of these ever again. After this mal-administration is finished and done, we need to retire these medals that have been abused and create new ones that actually MEAN something again.
johnnyfins
(3,434 posts)GiqueCee
(3,402 posts)Fullduplexxx
(8,604 posts)though nobody seems to care as much
WarGamer
(18,249 posts)She called him hateful, so what?
Not like she said she was happy about what happened.
DrMJG10
(49 posts)and racist person who could use a pretty and effective language to mask his true self. Many have tried to canonize him, as apposed to assigning him to the circle of hell he earned!
Orrex
(66,671 posts)to cash her residual checks and donations from the late, not-so-great Kirk's fuckhead acolytes.
Seyfried was 100% correct in her original comment, and her follow-up statement was very well constructed.
Swede
(38,327 posts)He was a racist SOB, that's a fact.
EnergizedLib
(2,928 posts)When do MAGAts ever apologize for anything?
kimbutgar
(26,796 posts)
Iggo
(49,650 posts)jfz9580m
(16,573 posts)Though apparently Maha wants to resuscitate Holmes..I had been joking to a friend that it will be Vance/Holmes 2028 to prove that Vance likes really professional women..who am I kidding? He thinks women should be barefoot and pregnant..mere sleaziness is inadequate:
Politico notes that the MAHA movement is glomming onto the convicted fraudster and questioning whether she was unfairly crucified by the justice system. Most notably, MAHA-influencer Jessica Reed Kraus recently wrote an article on her Substack entitled Elizabeth Holmes Redemption Arc Loading. Kraus writes:
Many still think of Theranos, in which a faulty machine dramatically spews blood as a defunct prop, as the source of her downfall. Digging deeper, I found another (more practical angle) that framed Holmes as a catastrophic threat to a trillion-dollar industry controlled by conglomerates, with masked Pfizer interests looming.
Throughout the blog post, Kraus questions the official narrative surrounding Holmes, seems to compliment the disgraced entrepreneur on her entrepreneurial advice and reflections on health, faith, and balance, as well as her praise for cultural figures such as Elon Musk, RFK Jr., and Charlie Kirk, and writes that she appreciates the convicts style of posting on X:
Her diary-like updates offer a window into motherhood behind bars. She has written nearly 3,000 letters to her children, expresses longing and faith, and shares family photos and drawings.
Other people in MAHAs orbit also seem to have nice things to say about Holmes. For instance, longevity enthusiast Bryan Johnson occasionally chats with Holmes online.
On the one hand, this isnt the first time that people have tried to view Holmes and Theranos through a slightly more charitable lens. People have noted that she was incredibly young at the time that she started Theranos (19) and that her mission (revolutionizing blood testing) was largely idealistic. On the other hand, the details of Holmes misdeeds are well-known, and she was convicted of multiple counts of fraud.
It just sorta makes sense that the MAHA movement would lionize a notorious fraudster as a misunderstood health hero, since critics have argued that MAHAs prime mover, RFK Jr., offers similarly misunderstood solutions to Americas ongoing health crises. While Holmes sold biotechnology services that didnt work, Kennedy would like you to believe that cod liver oil can cure measles, that America doesnt need a vaccine advisory committee, that Tylenol gives you autism, and that the person tasked with running the CDC doesnt need any training in medicine. While Kennedy may earnestly believe these unorthodoxies (just as Holmes may have believed that her biotech firm might, eventually, help lots of people), it doesnt make them any less damaging to Americas health establishment, nor the millions of Americans who rely on it.
As weve previously noted, there are also clear and present obstacles to MAHAs success. Taking on those trillion-dollar industries controlled by conglomerates that Kraus is critical of requires federal regulatory action and, as we all know, the Trump administration is not a huge fan of that sort of thing. Indeed, under Trump and Kennedy, the federal health bureaucracy is being defanged, not empowered.
Its not that America couldnt use a health movementit could. But, like Kennedy, the MAHA movement seems to put its focus and energies in all the wrong directions.
https://gizmodo.com/the-maha-movement-has-a-new-misunderstood-hero-elizabeth-holmes-2000684876