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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't have a problem with the insane one
Hes insane, dumb as a rock in a lot of areas, but brilliant at manipulating people. Yes, people with mental illnesses can be highly intelligent at manipulating people. He is a very sick individual, my problem isnt with him.
Its the entire Republican Party that I hold to blame for attempting to destroy our democracy, our health care system, our country. The party of Dwight Eisenhower is actively working with an insane traitor. They are pissing on the graves of all WW2 veterans.
I hope that as disgusting as he is, that the Democratic Party will put more effort into tying the republican party to him.
A normal party with an ounce of human decency would have stopped him long ago, but a party beholden to a murderous
Dictator and immoral billionaires is literally ecstatic to destroy our country.
Say it loud and often, repeat, repeat, repeat, IT IS THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT IS ALLOWING THIS ALL TO HAPPEN!
Walleye
(43,844 posts)rampartd
(3,835 posts)his movement has undone 3 generations of progress and remains unsatisfied.
Seinan Sensei
(1,375 posts)simply because they like to watch it burn
artemisia1
(1,371 posts)Woodwizard
(1,265 posts)And the ones that did not vote at all.
1/3 of eligible age are not registered or did not bother to vote.
The 1/3 other stupid asses had the first 4 years and a insurrection and must have liked it. My MAGA in laws are fine with it.
Escape
(377 posts)If you board a plane for a long flight across the country and discover the intended pilot is a drunk 12 year old, you don't just attack the kid, you find out who in the hell is allowing him to fly the plane.
Attilatheblond
(8,307 posts)Hope to read more from you around here.
MadameButterfly
(3,746 posts)what if the kid is smoking Pot and the second hand smoke is affecting the people who are letting him fly the plane?
Dr. Bandy Lee speaks about how the effect of a malignant narcissist on the people around him can be as contagious as a physical disease. People who resisted him at first become the most stalwart followers and hardest to de-program. This is not politics, it is biology. Until we start listening to the psychiastrists who have been brave enough to speak up, we won't understand what we are dealing with.
S/V Loner
(9,491 posts)what has happened to our nation. The country needs that party relegated to the dustpan of history.
lastlib
(27,562 posts)I'd put them in a septic tank and seal it.
BOSSHOG
(44,738 posts)But never take responsibility for the results of their bad actions. It would be funny if not so sad to listen to Mike Johnson tie himself in knots justifying his parties evasions.
S/V Loner
(9,491 posts)That is Maga and the GOP in a nutshell. I have said for quite some time that if Universities gave out degrees for "poor decision making and not accepting responsibility for the consequences" then there would be a lot of Magas with PhDs in the field.
PCIntern
(27,976 posts)Do you remember the debates in 2016 when he rode roughshod all over the other candidates and they just fucking stood there SMILING while called their wives ugly, their qualifications irrelevant and the like? They didnt open their mouths and say: HOW DARE YOU???!! I HAVE BEEN THE GOVERNOR OF A STATE FOR EIGHT YEARS (Jeb) or I HAVE BEEN A SENATOR FOR X YEARS, AND YOU HAVENT DONE SQUAT EXCEPT DECLARE BANKRUPTCIES AND BEEN KNOWN AS A PHILANDERING ADULTEROUS THIEF BY EVERYONE IN NEW YORK AND ATLANTIC CITY!!!
But no
not the politeness-men. And woman. Oh yeah. Remember what he said about her? That face
We own this as a nation. And dont ever tell me this is not who we are. It most certainly is who we are.
FakeNoose
(40,212 posts)Chump had them all cowed into silence, and that's on them.
OrangeJoe
(555 posts)The media is just as culpable as the Republicans maybe even more so because they are supposed to be the guardians of truth.
Joinfortmill
(20,097 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,313 posts)dalton99a
(92,158 posts)usonian
(23,590 posts)This election was bought by techno-elitists and they will shortly rule, when Trump is permanently under one of his golf courses.

He and company removed all restraints for them. And are no longer useful. Rule by AI!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20859025
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20859047
Looking forward, wrong target.
jfz9580m
(16,584 posts)I wanted to point this out.
I have decided to formally write a long post in the DU Activist HQ about the role of technocracy in the rise of Trump.
Today my dad was mocking Trump for apparently setting a million dollars and some qualifications as the price for entry to the US. He was mocking the notion of buying your way into entry.
Thats bs. Its a million dollars and fealty to Trump with their Palantir Panopticon.
This mercenary movement has ruined education snd healthcare and of course the environment. And its like this rapacious beast that must be fed till nothing remains.
The GOP has destabilised Latin America and has a huge role in driving the very migration they decry and exploit to destroy the public sector, regulation etc.
Its confounding ..the human brain doesnt have the ability to grasp this much parasitic evil -some of it tritely banal and the rest malicious and banal.
Anyway I wanted to formally post on DU Activist HQ. I cant do anything about politics since I am not American or in the US.
But I am planning on doing what I can about the technocrats ruining my home here and my rights sans any RTI and taking over my street.
They are ruining everything. I was looking up AI crawlers that EarlG mentioned in an email to me to get a better sense of what they are and apparently Wikipedia (one of the less sucky parts of the net) along with Stack Exchange..some people seem to think Reddit is less sucky as well.
And they are all affected by those. It really is time for a non joke techlash. These guys are parasites. I dont mean the random worker in tech held hostage by the need to earn a living.
I mean those creeps at the top. Google is officially now a Pentagon contractor. Of course they are also pretty stupid but they are hijacking all of medical research.
I wouldnt touch brain research etc done by them with only the kinds of scientists they like..the sellout shills on TED etc and very few of the kinds of scientists I trust.
But well I have to put some thought into it and draft a post with more care than my normal rants that really look as if an insane person wrote them or worse a bot. I dont know which is more insulting. I guess bot.
and I do have to go work. I saw that creep Nadella shilling AI. Yeah no. Indigenous creep or giant creep, its all the same to me.
I know you worked in tech Usonian..or that was my impression. I am not attacking all of tech though I write hyperbolically. I dont mean it literally. Its internetese.
But as you rightly point out, these guys.,they want everything..
I have to go offline and work today for sure. But I am going to draft a long post for activist Hq. If it is not directly tied to democratic politics it is still tied to the root issue by now as so much is being done via the net which means control over far too much.
EarlGs post election analysis was correct imo.
I also feel like Lina Khan is a big part of the reason they really pushed back. I think some labor friendly and regulatory moves by Biden really angered the technocrats. They tried to I think a keep a foot in both camps some via Reid Hoffman etc (unpalatable I know..I get it..I am not so not pragmatic that I say people should turn down what money they can get from peopel pike Hoffman as long as he has no influence..Hoffman may also get by now how Nazi they are and that it might be better to take less influence as the price for not worrying about nazis all the time or thats my hope. Because it would be a terrible idea to scuttle the progressives and dilute that movement out to merely slow the cancer rather than attack its roots..I am not enthusiastic when I see donations by these guys to the left. But its only pure astroturf if it dilutes the message down to nothing and kills the fighting instincts. You need both. They keep saying it is ideological purity while the effects of the right shifting are blatantly obvious. You need more balance and fighting instincts.
I am closer to people like Yasha Levine or Nathan Robison Ill admit..so well to the left. But that doesnt mean I dont get compromise..its just about where to peg it at in this extreme a situation. Because it is not really about purity so much as Accelerationism at this point. They really want full control. And not my amazing tech. By rubbish like this:
https://www.pcmag.com/news/wikipedia-faces-flood-of-ai-bots-that-are-eating-bandwidth-raising-costs
Its not high quality and ..its not like German (not Nazi stuff but they legitimately do have very good science and education..or used to..who knows by now..)
I have struggled in science due to the legitimate rigors and difficulties of science.
That was most of it/ but in the last decade or so its more like this buggy shit. Some piece of shit AI agent or bad methods that are distracting. Its such junk
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usonian
(23,590 posts)and always made an honest living. Totally varied environments. Self-taught with computers, from early days. Lived through the micromputer and open source revolutions.
Unfortunately, some sick people pander(ed) to the worst in people. I tried to do good, even in aerospace. Always defense only, and my growth there paved the way for staff work at University and later, at Sun Microsystems, where my group supported education.
We make choices, and while opportunities are limited, they are still choices, and doing no harm is one of them.
jfz9580m
(16,584 posts)One confusing thing as I try to write up an important post in the activist HQ, is what I remember from a period of brushes with lousy tech.
One sign I have seen of honesty in people is unfortunately confusion in dealing with this emerging creepy digital environment mediated by all sorts of agents and bots, but which also is hard to address..
Early on and even now as I see this grow around me insufferably corrupting and contaminating everything else, any decent people with real products and services who exist in the world such as it is -not making it worse but as you say doing no harm or even improving it is, if they see an ott rant or hear a vague rumor, they could think its about them.
And people like that usually look confused and probably later angry or depressed or wary feeling attacked when its not about them at all.
Its this tragicomic situation where you are ranting about people at the very top and random people get offended.
It is not possible to explain stuff in a never ending if else loop explaining every context and situation
A bot wouldnt know how to explain something so all possible people who could see it dont get confused and a human who tries sounds crazy. Because of the secrecy with which these lousy things are built its not even that easy to estimate the probability of this or that situation applying as easily as one could.
Ed Zitron rants about it. More people do by how.
Its like this nuisance that sucks away time attention and energy.
And irl I outright avoid spaces and people like that. And you rarely meet people who are the worst kinds of architects of this shit reality.
Part of the secrecy with which so much development is done now is aimed at feeding the greediest and worst parts of the machine and its owners/creators users and their sycophants. Musk being a particularly noxious example along with those Jan 6 creeps.
Irl outside of hooligans or corrupt persons we rabble meet with a low to average probability, this doesnt apply.
I have never personally met many of the people building the things I find so objectionable and I dont want to be kicked out of every system because someone takes something I say personally.
My doctors or delivery men etc are always decent but I am in system where the logistics are handled by people I dont know and whatever they are like at the lower levels, at the top these days its going to be guys who push it. Thats who gets ahead these days. Especially at the top.
My doctors here are generally nice and decent so I dont worry about the situation Elaine dealt with in an episode of Seinfeld. I used to look at that episode and relate to it. Say what you will about Elaine, there is no submission there. I used to bitterly remember a time when I was a free woman when I used to watch the show over the years.
Its hard to explain it so that any potential acceptable baby doesnt go out with the bathwater. A Tower of Babel comes to mind. Except instead of language now you have to explain human existence as a whole to avoid causing nuisance rumors as you try to identify the things that would really piss you off
I am glad tech has gotten to a point where its pissing off enough people that I dont just sound crazy to anyone who reads this stuff,,as I probably did a few years ago.
Marc Andreessen, Musk and their ilk are the worst offenders. But increasingly I do suspect it needs to be rebuilt from scratch in 7-8/10 and thats a generous estimate with some stuff that has been pissing me off. Its just myopic at this point to yet again peg things at something that is convenient to very few , lucrative to even fewer (and those the worst) at the cost of everything and everyone else.
usonian
(23,590 posts)I read Lewis Mumford long ago, and before there were personal computers, "Computer Lib, Dream Machines"
I have always felt them to be liberative and distributed. But "network effect" and greed centralized computing as we know it.
Some good and enormous risk and disempowerment.
Brief is no good. Cant express much briefly 😸.
Incoherence otoh
I am drafting the longest post in DU history for Activist HQ
usonian
(23,590 posts)But there's this life outside of DU.
I have been scraping transcripts off videos, due to "video attention disorder" ... not wanting to slug through 30 minutes of video for a few salient facts, and I've hit some interesting tech walls.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20802758
(might need updating)
I use
https://www.youtranscripts.com/
https://sentencesplitter.com/
And when pastebin bans posting based on keywords, I paste at
https://rentry.co/
I have been using postimages and imgbb, but sometimes I get a malware page from postimages (only on the phone) or timeouts at imgbb, so I switched to
https://8upload.com/
The point is that these forums have very limited capability, and probably due to legal hassles, don't host any images, making them 1/100 as usable as dumb-shit email. Hacker News is even proud of its 1980's text-only mode.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46242325
Just for readability, you might post elsewhere and link it here. At the very least, you might get a wysiwyg editor (I really dislike bbcode and markdown, despite being a techie ... Half of me is artistic and likes great typography and layout. My Dad was an artist and in the past, I dabbled in font creation.
Well, have fun. Remember, replying to a very long post requires lots of scrolling.
lostincalifornia
(4,916 posts)NONE OF THIS IS NORMAL?
Just the fact that what happened on January 6, his involvement, and the pardoning of those actively involved in the insurrection, is hardly mentioned.
The constant crap the press threw at Biden, while treating the degradation of our Democracy under trump as almost a non-story only demonstrates just how pathetic and disgraceful most of the press has come.
jfz9580m
(16,584 posts)The NYT for instance is a particularly shitty paper. The peg the what is permissible line around where the brainless sensibilities of Ross Douhat and the rest of their oped writers average is and that is just so awful.
After Krugman left I had little respect for their editorial board. And as things have accelerated (there is no other term) they have stayed in a damn stagnant bog that wasnt a good fit even for that era.
The Accelerationism of this moronic pseudoelite grinds everyone else down to a halt. Unbelievably awful..
I am reading a book right now by Adam Becker called More everything forever (I swear I have no tie ins ..I feel I sound like an influencer or fawning LLM
. These rants are 100% the product of an irate human boosting any tool that may work against those creeps..this is a crisis and its spreading across the globe..I dont want what you guys are dealing with over there here..I dont want a phony UBI at the cost of letting these guys take my home and street without any oversight by me and more sleazy decisions made that I have no say in) and God these guys are idiots. Apparently that ass Marc Andreessen is the keeper of the real scientific method..
Such a bloody waste of time, energy and resources and shilled by people with worst instincts like the NYT. So myopic.
Unless one of my friends or colleagues approved it keep your damn physical AI or ubiquitous computing the fuck out of my home.
I dont want rolling rocks moon billboard style beer commercials and phony corporate street art etc.
(As a personal note..its so insidious ..they are so averse to for instance assertive women..they back the GOP -this type of movement for a reason. That a completely forced by garbage tech (and its insistent shills) persona of a screaming borderline or sad and depressed woman is all they can stand. And wrapped up in lucrative chestnuts about destigmatizing illness. No really! You are crazy! Dont fight it! There is no stigma! We have every right to force our junk tech and you are a crazy woman. )
At least get original will you? Like the Scientologists! I am not crazy just filled with thetas or something (South Park covered it)! There is nothing more angering than ones home being filled with junk.
aggiesal
(10,543 posts)He's not brilliant at manipulating people, he never had been in the past, he just abused people financially.
In politics he abuses everyone like he's an organized criminal syndicate mob boss.
Since he now controls an indiscriminate DOJ, FBI, SCOTUS 6-pack, & GQP Congress, at his beck & call,
that they'll do anything that farts out of his mouth.
Sorry, he's not brilliant at anything.
KS Toronado
(23,060 posts)
Next election needs a poor vs rich theme.
progressoid
(52,599 posts)Some of those people are independents and some are in our party now.
The rest are either too stupid to realize what they have become or they actually support it.
Martin68
(27,081 posts)Marie Marie
(10,894 posts)BidenRocks
(2,787 posts)GoodRaisin
(10,736 posts)And it really exposed the whole sorry lot.