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In It to Win It

(12,339 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 07:48 PM Dec 8

Jasmine Crockett in, Colin Allred out: A major shakeup for Democrats in their quest to finally win a Senate seat in TX

Democratic Rep. Jasmine Crockett, a rising star within the party who has built a reputation as one of President Trump’s fiercest critics in Congress, has joined the race for the U.S. Senate in Texas. She is seeking to unseat Republican Sen. John Cornyn and provide Democrats a critical victory in their pursuit of flipping the Senate in next year’s midterms.

“Today, under Trump and three decades of Republican rule in Texas, those very Texans are under daily attack,” Crockett wrote on her campaign website. “I’m running to protect Texans from these attacks and safeguard the rights our Constitution guarantees.”

Her decision comes just hours after Colin Allred, who led Democrats’ unsuccessful bid to oust Sen. Ted Cruz in 2024, announced that he is dropping out of next year’s race.

Allred, who lost to Cruz by more than 8 points last year, didn’t mention Crockett in his statement explaining his decision to drop out of the race. But he did make the case that a “bruising” Democratic primary could undermine their chances of ousting Cornyn in the general election, arguing that his party will need to be “unified” if it stands a chance at pulling off an upset in November.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/article/jasmine-crockett-in-colin-allred-out-a-major-shakeup-for-democrats-in-their-quest-to-finally-win-a-senate-seat-in-texas-214457083.html
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Jasmine Crockett in, Colin Allred out: A major shakeup for Democrats in their quest to finally win a Senate seat in TX (Original Post) In It to Win It Dec 8 OP
"But markodochartaigh Dec 8 #1
A 9 point loss is "so close?" Polybius Dec 8 #2
Yes. markodochartaigh Dec 8 #7
He lost by almost 1 million votes. That is not 'so close', even in Texas. Celerity Dec 8 #17
From Wikipedia markodochartaigh Dec 9 #18
But in 2018, Cruz vs. Beto was 50.89% to 48.33% Polybius Dec 9 #23
Crockett can't win in texas moonshinegnomie Dec 8 #3
Very early Boo1 Dec 8 #6
Agreed. I like her. she's tough and smart... but she's also a black woman, and that's just not going to fly in Texas Takket Dec 8 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Dec 8 #9
Do you live in Texas? hamsterjill Dec 8 #14
what is wrong with her politics? Skittles Dec 9 #19
To the average DUer? Not much FBaggins Dec 9 #29
anything that actually helps people bothers repukes Skittles Dec 9 #38
Imaginative assertion Torchlight Dec 9 #24
It's unfortunate, but true pinkstarburst Dec 9 #26
"Her politics" WTF does that mean? Bluetus Dec 9 #32
My guess is that it means exactly what it says FBaggins Dec 9 #33
Ok. Name the policies Bluetus Dec 9 #34
Seriously? FBaggins Dec 9 #35
There you go with the labels again Bluetus Dec 9 #37
I gave you both. I notice you didn't comment on the specific policy FBaggins Dec 9 #39
What is Crockett's specific policy about the Gaza genocide? Bluetus Dec 9 #40
This! hamsterjill Dec 8 #10
She is supposed to wait for Texas to be less racist or sexist? newdeal2 Dec 8 #12
The reality is that Texas IS racist and sexist. hamsterjill Dec 8 #13
Honestly, I wish we had the big names spreading out across the ticket pinkstarburst Dec 9 #27
I wish she was running somewhere else but Texas--- Jack Valentino Dec 8 #11
I'm not optimistic about either one of them. In It to Win It Dec 8 #16
I will be voting for Talarico pinkstarburst Dec 9 #25
This makes sense leftstreet Dec 9 #30
I like both Crockett and Talarico Fiendish Thingy Dec 8 #4
"Crockett can't win in Texas" J_William_Ryan Dec 8 #5
Senator Jasmine Crockett Emile Dec 8 #15
All of us on DU would vote for her DFW Dec 9 #20
The simple facts moonshinegnomie Dec 9 #21
Post removed Post removed Dec 9 #22
Why in your last sentence, you have to insult democrats Emile Dec 9 #28
Your conclusion is certainly one opinion. Torchlight Dec 9 #31
This polling makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Dec 9 #36

markodochartaigh

(5,042 posts)
1. "But
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 07:54 PM
Dec 8

he did make the case that a “bruising” Democratic primary could undermine their chances of ousting Cornyn in the general election, arguing that his party will need to be “unified” if it stands a chance at pulling off an upset in November."

I think that this shows how Colin Allred was able to get so close to ousting Cruz. Colin Allred is pragmatic and a class act.

markodochartaigh

(5,042 posts)
7. Yes.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 08:58 PM
Dec 8

For a Republican senator in Texas, 9 points is very close.

And if you didn't realize, Colin Allred is half Black.

markodochartaigh

(5,042 posts)
18. From Wikipedia
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 01:43 AM
Dec 9

"Allred challenged Republican incumbent Ted Cruz in the 2024 United States Senate election in Texas. He was defeated by Cruz in the general election; however, he outran the Democratic presidential ticket in the concurrent presidential election in Texas by 5.5%"

So he performed better than the Democratic presidential candidate. For a Black Democratic candidate in Texas, in my opinion, he did very well. I would call that close.

moonshinegnomie

(3,880 posts)
3. Crockett can't win in texas
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 08:18 PM
Dec 8

Talarico can. That’s what I’m basing my vote on. I like her but the reality is Texas will never elect her

Boo1

(148 posts)
6. Very early
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 08:52 PM
Dec 8

But Talarico does look to be polling a few points better than Crockett aginst either republican.

Takket

(23,484 posts)
8. Agreed. I like her. she's tough and smart... but she's also a black woman, and that's just not going to fly in Texas
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 09:03 PM
Dec 8

We need to run someone white, probably male, and just left of center if we're even going to be close. We've seen some pretty decent candidates run against absolute buffoons like Ted Cruz and still lose. The landscape for Democrats should be better by next fall but I don't see Crockett as viable, and we need to be pragmatic about it.

Response to Takket (Reply #8)

hamsterjill

(17,053 posts)
14. Do you live in Texas?
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:56 PM
Dec 8

The color of her skin will most assuredly hold her back. To deny that is not being realistic. Is it right? Hell no! Is it something the needs to change? Hell yes.

But for this moment in time, it is indeed the unfortunate reality.

Skittles

(169,617 posts)
38. anything that actually helps people bothers repukes
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 05:54 PM
Dec 9

hopefully a few of them are realizing now it's not just POC and LGBTQ folk being hurt

pinkstarburst

(1,876 posts)
26. It's unfortunate, but true
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 12:37 PM
Dec 9

In the same way that it has been expressed many times (even by Michelle Obama) that this country is not currently ready for a female president and nominating a woman in 2028 would set us up to lose, Texas is a red state, and a majority Hispanic state. A Hispanic man has a stronger chance of winning, I'm sorry to say, than a Black woman. I wish it weren't true, but it is.

I think we will probably lose either way, as Texas is just too conservative at this point, but with Talarico maybe we have a slim chance. I think with Crockett, who has been so outspoken (in a great way!! I wish she could keep her house seat) and would have to overcome sexism and racism just like Kamala Harris did, there would be no chance.

Bluetus

(2,308 posts)
32. "Her politics" WTF does that mean?
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 01:51 PM
Dec 9

Please explain exactly what policies of Crockett's are unacceptable to Texans.

You can't, because progressive policies are popular EVERYWHERE.

The "policies" unacceptable to Texans are estrogen and pigment.

People agree with progressive policies across the board. The problem that Dem progressives have is that there are so many other Dems who believe that being junior Republicans is the best strategy, and therefore, nobody believes Democrats will actually deliver on any of the ideas we talk about.

FBaggins

(28,639 posts)
33. My guess is that it means exactly what it says
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 02:05 PM
Dec 9

Ann Richards held statewide office in TX for a dozen years and is the last Democrat to win a statewide race.

If "people agree with progressive policies across the board" and estrogen and pigment were the only problems... Texas would have elected some progressive white men to statewide office in this century.

Bluetus

(2,308 posts)
34. Ok. Name the policies
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 02:35 PM
Dec 9

Of Allred or Crockett that Texans can't abide? Don't just toss out meaningless labels. Identify the policies.

FBaggins

(28,639 posts)
35. Seriously?
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 03:24 PM
Dec 9

Two easy ones - one specific and one general.

Only 31% of voters in the TX 2024 exit polls indicated that US support for Israel was too strong. Harris actually won a solid majority of the 30% who said it was "about right"... because she was part of that policy. Crockett can't pretend to walk that middle ground.

Only 23% of Texas voters identified as liberal... but there are enough moderates to form a majority if a democratic candidate can plausibly sell herself as a moderate. But Crockett scores about the top quartile of our caucus. She's a great fit for her current district (and actually votes a bit to the left of where the district would imply)... but statewide is a different kettle of fish entirely.

Bluetus

(2,308 posts)
37. There you go with the labels again
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 05:14 PM
Dec 9

I asked about policies, not labels.

Some Dems are worse than Republicans when it comes to tossing around meaningless labels.

FBaggins

(28,639 posts)
39. I gave you both. I notice you didn't comment on the specific policy
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 07:14 PM
Dec 9

But I'm also not willing to buy your implicit spin that voters are stupid. When they're asked whether they identify as liberal or conservative or moderate... why would you assume that you know better than they do?

Bluetus

(2,308 posts)
40. What is Crockett's specific policy about the Gaza genocide?
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 08:25 PM
Dec 9

More importantly, how many Texans even know her policy?

Even more basically, how many Texans could find Gaza on a map, or even spell Gaza correctly?

If they don't like Crockett, it is because she is black, a woman, and a radical leftist. The first 2 are manifestly obvious. The third is your invention and the power of propaganda.

hamsterjill

(17,053 posts)
10. This!
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 09:10 PM
Dec 8

It was a mistake for her to run this time around. I really like her and I'm a lifelong Texan. But Talarico has been getting some well deserved attention and interest. Crockett will now take some of that attention. Republicans will benefit.

My money and my vote will go to Talarico.

newdeal2

(4,802 posts)
12. She is supposed to wait for Texas to be less racist or sexist?
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:22 PM
Dec 8

Sorry but I don’t understand. What is she supposed to do when she is out of a job next year - wait four years for a shot against Cruz? Let her run her campaign and have the voters decide.

hamsterjill

(17,053 posts)
13. The reality is that Texas IS racist and sexist.
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:53 PM
Dec 8

Democrats must deal with that reality. It is unfortunate, and I certainly don't like that things are that way. But I've lived here my whole live and they are. It doesn't work to deny it.

She's welcome to run. That is her right. But I think we all know what the outcome is going to be. You're absolutely right. Let the voters decide. But would you care to check back with me after the election? If I'm wrong, I will gladly admit it and be all the happier for it. I think she's great, but I think Talarico is great, too, and i think he has a better shot given the circumstances.

pinkstarburst

(1,876 posts)
27. Honestly, I wish we had the big names spreading out across the ticket
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 12:39 PM
Dec 9

We don't need a bunch of big names knocking each other out in the primary. Talarico was already in the race for Senate (and he's getting my support.) She would have been better running for one of the other offices.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
11. I wish she was running somewhere else but Texas---
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 10:10 PM
Dec 8

but if she could awaken the vast number of Texans who DON'T VOTE,
she could have a chance!

But like you, I'm not too optimistic about that...

pinkstarburst

(1,876 posts)
25. I will be voting for Talarico
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Dec 9

Crockett has zero chance of winning. I'm sorry, but DU has said over and over how irresponsible it would be for democrats to nominate a woman in 2028 because the country is so sexist (and racist.) Guess what. Texas is going to be even worse than the US as a whole in that regard. James Talarico has a much better shot at winning in this Hispanic majority state than a Black woman, and we would be insane to nominate Crockett in the primary, just like we would be insane to nominate AOC as president in 2028, much as I like both of them.

Winning that senate seat is going to be a long shot no matter what. Beto had huge name recognition and popularity and came the closest, at 3% of within winning. And he's a white guy. I think Talarico could maybe come close as a Hispanic man. I love Crockett for her fire, but combine how racist and sexist the red areas of the state are with some of the statements she's made, and this is going to be a nonstarter for swaying independent and moderate voters.

leftstreet

(38,866 posts)
30. This makes sense
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 01:21 PM
Dec 9

I don't know much about TX politics, but I can't help thinking a strong economic message would have the broadest appeal. Talarico seems to be hitting the marks


Team Talarico
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Imagine a Democratic Party that listens to the people, not DC consultants.

And imagine a Democratic Party that delivers for people on housing, healthcare, education, and actually defeats the right-wing extremists who have taken over this country.



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Fiendish Thingy

(22,063 posts)
4. I like both Crockett and Talarico
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 08:29 PM
Dec 8

But I think Talarico would have better odds in the general, unless Paxton wins the GOP nomination, then Crockett would have a shot,

DFW

(59,746 posts)
20. All of us on DU would vote for her
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 02:39 AM
Dec 9

Unfortunately, 5.8 million voters in Texas who lean Republican will not be soliciting our opinion or asking our expert advice.

As a Senator, she’d brilliant. As a candidate in the primary, she would not even be allowed the smallest mistake. The media will be watching and listening. As with Howard Dean in 2004, or Hillary Clinton in 2016, they LOVE to tear down a popular Democratic frontrunner, if they can. It’s like trying to walk a tightrope across the Grand Canyon. One slip, and you’re done, and you don’t get a second chance.

She MIGHT make it. She COULD make it. But the political winds in Texas blow in another direction—for now. The more Trump makes stupid moves, and the more Cornyn backs him up on every one, it increases our chances. But, like Adlai Stevenson supposedly said when told he had the vote of every thinking American, “That’s not enough. I need a majority!”

moonshinegnomie

(3,880 posts)
21. The simple facts
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 03:58 AM
Dec 9

A black democrat has won exactly one statewide race in the past 35 years and that may be the only time that has happened.
Texas is a racist state. There are a lot of people who won’t vote for a black here. Both ethics and dems especially outside the major urban areas. If a dem were to wing it won’t be by a lot. And we need the candidate who has the best chance of winning. And in Texas that’s not Crockett. It may be be right but it’s simple reality. And those that dispute that have their head in the sand

Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #21)

Torchlight

(6,318 posts)
31. Your conclusion is certainly one opinion.
Tue Dec 9, 2025, 01:21 PM
Dec 9

(written with my toes in the sand, my head held upright)

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