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applegrove

(130,210 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:35 AM Dec 3

Hawley Pitches New Health Care Tax Plan

Hawley Pitches New Health Care Tax Plan

December 3, 2025 at 8:51 am EST By Taegan Goddard 60 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/12/03/hawley-pitches-new-health-care-tax-plan/


“Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) is pitching his colleagues — and President Donald Trump — on a new health care plan,” Politico reports.

“Hawley believes his new bill, which would allow all tax payers to deduct up to $25,000 per person in medical expenses, would help offer Republicans an agenda to coalesce behind while boosting the GOP’s affordability message heading into an election year. The bill also allows out of pocket spending on premiums to be deducted.”


Applegrove: and the people who are too poor to pay much in taxes? GOP want the working poor to die. No other explanation fits.
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Hawley Pitches New Health Care Tax Plan (Original Post) applegrove Dec 3 OP
One knee replacement costs over $200K. Happy Hoosier Dec 3 #1
"Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) is pitching his colleagues on a new health plan" chouchou Dec 3 #2
This plan would exclusively benefit the rich. subterranean Dec 3 #3
And even then, a tax deduction lowers the taxable income, NOT the tax itself Wiz Imp Dec 3 #7
And someone in the lowest marginal tax bracket... subterranean Dec 3 #10
exactly Wiz Imp Dec 3 #12
And only if they don't have expensive issues EdmondDantes_ Dec 3 #13
A new version of the only thing republicans can do. Turbineguy Dec 3 #4
It's a bad plan........................ Lovie777 Dec 3 #6
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. travelingthrulife Dec 3 #5
Sure! Let's just "RUN" with that. Traildogbob Dec 3 #8
What are the specifics jonstl08 Dec 3 #9
This is why I'm looking forward JustAnotherGen Dec 3 #11
25,000 per person in expenses? ibegurpard Dec 3 #14

Happy Hoosier

(9,394 posts)
1. One knee replacement costs over $200K.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:40 AM
Dec 3

I had 2. The Republicans are a joke.

Employer-based Health-care premiums are already pre-tax.

chouchou

(2,792 posts)
2. "Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) is pitching his colleagues on a new health plan"
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:43 AM
Dec 3

Quite frankly, I wouldn't let Josh Hawley pitch my garbage into my outside trash can...He'd screw it up somehow.
His past "Bills" are atrocious.

subterranean

(3,745 posts)
3. This plan would exclusively benefit the rich.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 09:51 AM
Dec 3

Last edited Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:17 PM - Edit history (1)

It would only benefit people who are wealthy enough to itemize deductions. In other words, only about 10 percent of taxpayers.

Correction: After looking at it further, it appears the proposed deduction would be in addition to the standard deduction, so you wouldn't have to itemize. But the fact remains it would be heavily skewed in favor of the wealthy. People who don't owe any federal income tax (about 30-40% of Americans) would receive no benefit at all from this.

Wiz Imp

(8,898 posts)
7. And even then, a tax deduction lowers the taxable income, NOT the tax itself
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 11:29 AM
Dec 3

People at the highest marginal tax rate (37% which applies to very few people) would save a maximum of $9250 in taxes. People at the lowest marginal rate would save just $2500. How does this provide significant help to anyone?

subterranean

(3,745 posts)
10. And someone in the lowest marginal tax bracket...
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:37 PM
Dec 3

would probably not be able to afford $25,000 in medical expenses and premiums, and wouldn't owe much, if any, income tax in the first place.

EdmondDantes_

(1,340 posts)
13. And only if they don't have expensive issues
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:52 PM
Dec 3

As noted above a knee replacement is 200k, getting to knock a bit off doesn't make that easily affordable for even a significant chunk of rich people.

Lovie777

(21,708 posts)
6. It's a bad plan........................
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 10:10 AM
Dec 3

it favors the rich and screws the middle class and poor.

Traildogbob

(12,561 posts)
8. Sure! Let's just "RUN" with that.
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:08 PM
Dec 3

Wish I could post the meme of him “Running” from MAGA tourists.

jonstl08

(538 posts)
9. What are the specifics
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:23 PM
Dec 3

Notice how there was no specifics. Currently you can any medical expense over 7.5% of Adjusted gross income would become an itemized deduction. That would include all out of pocket insurance premiums, copays and any other qualified medical expense. If a less wealthy family living in an apartment with a current standard deduction of $29K unless they paid over 30K in itemized medical expenses would probably not be able to itemize. So the deduction in Hawleys plan would not help them at all.

Let see the specifics.

JustAnotherGen

(37,537 posts)
11. This is why I'm looking forward
Wed Dec 3, 2025, 12:41 PM
Dec 3

To Governor Elect Sherrill's soft secession plan. If she and the Operating Officer (new position in her cabinet) can find a way to carve as much money back from the Fed for NJ earners . . .

We can implement our own ACA and to hell with the rest of America - to include DC.

I'm sick of the people in my community over paying to DC and we don't get jack shit in return in NJ.

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