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orangecrush

(28,453 posts) Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:14 PM Dec 2

In case you haven't seen Hegseth's stunning display of craven cowardice yet

I want to see him repeat all of this under oath.

Correct me if I am wrong but what I hear is a point blank refusal to accept any responsibility or accountability, a litany of "it wasn't me" followed by a smoke screen of flaming bullshit of "it was someone else, but I think they were right rah rah rah Amerikuh you don't know what it's like so you have no right to ask no you're the liars".

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In case you haven't seen Hegseth's stunning display of craven cowardice yet (Original Post) orangecrush Dec 2 OP

He's a liar and I've zero doubt that he would lie under oath, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2 #1

As a sober alcoholic orangecrush Dec 2 #5

When you know your Fuhrer will pardon you... appmanga Dec 2 #6

Thankfully, he's stupid enough to lie poorly. Maru Kitteh Dec 2 #7

I've posted clip of Ron White numerous times, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2 #14

Damn straight orangecrush Dec 2 #17

Ron White is a treasure and in recovery NotHardly Dec 2 #35

Agree, but his gift of the gab is remarkable. He just stands there all puffed up and allegorical oracle Dec 2 #28

Lieing is a requirement MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #13

The first question on the application for employment with this Admin. is: MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2 #18

👍 MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #19

... a drunken liar w/ Pedonald as his enabler NotHardly Dec 2 #34

I was surprised when the camera panned out markodochartaigh Dec 2 #2

"Hagueseth" - that's really... 3catwoman3 Dec 2 #40

Thank you but markodochartaigh Dec 2 #41

Manly man goes full chickenshit. Warrior ethos my ass. Klarkashton Dec 2 #3

Complete abdication of responsibility orangecrush Dec 2 #8

He's a disgrace MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #11

Risen to a level of cowardice orangecrush Dec 2 #16

A responsible leader takes responsibility for his mistakes, takes corrective action, then moves on. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #4

Too bad there are no responsible leaders in this regime. MarineCombatEngineer Dec 2 #10

There were adults in the room last time around orangecrush Dec 2 #15

you got that right Skittles Dec 2 #39

As a sober alcoholic orangecrush Dec 2 #12

Drinking is just one of his problems. Irish_Dem Dec 2 #26

do YOU KNOW PRESIDENT TRUMP killed over a million people last year with COVID?? YoshidaYui Dec 2 #9

He has a lot to answer for MustLoveBeagles Dec 2 #20

Apparently he told a WP reporter that he was asking a difficult senseandsensibility Dec 2 #21

The expression on that reporters face orangecrush Dec 2 #22

can't wait for his perp walk rurallib Dec 2 #23

At least we have the comfort of knowing he stopped drinking Submariner Dec 2 #24

That keg is blown Blue Owl Dec 2 #25

He's on his way out. Emile Dec 2 #27

This is the Sort of Behavior We Should Be Checking for When Advancing Children to High School The Roux Comes First Dec 2 #29

Truman: The buck stops here. ananda Dec 2 #30

OMG! go to the 0:55 mark and listen taxi Dec 2 #31

+1 dalton99a Dec 2 #32

Exactly. orangecrush Dec 2 #38

Don't you dare say on kacekwl Dec 2 #33

The "fog of war" I believe refers to a psychological state of mind, La Coliniere Dec 2 #36

I believe you are correct orangecrush Dec 2 #37

Thank you. returnee Dec 3 #42

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,744 posts)

1. He's a liar and I've zero doubt that he would lie under oath,

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:15 PM

Dec 2

that's the way of this regime.

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

5. As a sober alcoholic

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:23 PM

Dec 2

I recognize this dynamic.

To family, "it's your fault I'm like this. You don't know what it's like, and you have it so good and have no right to point out the damage I do."

appmanga

(1,382 posts)

6. When you know your Fuhrer will pardon you...

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:23 PM

Dec 2

...why wouldn't you lie, or do worse?

Maru Kitteh

(31,256 posts)

7. Thankfully, he's stupid enough to lie poorly.

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:23 PM

Dec 2

The poor child doesn’t have much going on, but stupid, he has in spades.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,744 posts)

14. I've posted clip of Ron White numerous times,

Reply to Maru Kitteh (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:27 PM

Dec 2

but it needs to be posted again, it describes Kegsbreath and the whole Pedonald regime to a tee.

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

17. Damn straight

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:29 PM

Dec 2

NotHardly

(2,631 posts)

35. Ron White is a treasure and in recovery

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:21 PM

Dec 2

allegorical oracle

(6,194 posts)

28. Agree, but his gift of the gab is remarkable. He just stands there all puffed up and

Reply to Maru Kitteh (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:08 PM

Dec 2

goes on and on. He's as big a psychopath as Dozy Don.

MustLoveBeagles

(14,801 posts)

13. Lieing is a requirement

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:25 PM

Dec 2

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,744 posts)

18. The first question on the application for employment with this Admin. is:

Reply to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:32 PM

Dec 2

"Can you convincingly lie to protect Trump?
If you answer yes, then skip the rest of the application, go straight to the HR office, get your credentials and report to the WH."

MustLoveBeagles

(14,801 posts)

19. 👍

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #18)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:33 PM

Dec 2

NotHardly

(2,631 posts)

34. ... a drunken liar w/ Pedonald as his enabler

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:19 PM

Dec 2

markodochartaigh

(5,042 posts)

2. I was surprised when the camera panned out

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:17 PM

Dec 2

that Whisky Pete Hagueseth wasn't hanging from a telephone wire with his pants on fire.

3catwoman3

(28,607 posts)

40. "Hagueseth" - that's really...

Reply to markodochartaigh (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 08:36 PM

Dec 2

Last edited Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:06 PM - Edit history (1)

…really, really goof!

Oops - obviously that was supposed to be good.

markodochartaigh

(5,042 posts)

41. Thank you but

Reply to 3catwoman3 (Reply #40)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:33 PM

Dec 2

I can't take credit for it. It is from Malcolm Nance.

Klarkashton

(4,740 posts)

3. Manly man goes full chickenshit. Warrior ethos my ass.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:18 PM

Dec 2

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

8. Complete abdication of responsibility

Reply to Klarkashton (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:24 PM

Dec 2

And threw his subordinates right under the bus.

MustLoveBeagles

(14,801 posts)

11. He's a disgrace

Reply to Klarkashton (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:24 PM

Dec 2

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

16. Risen to a level of cowardice

Reply to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:28 PM

Dec 2

Formerly unimaginable.

Irish_Dem

(79,886 posts)

4. A responsible leader takes responsibility for his mistakes, takes corrective action, then moves on.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:20 PM

Dec 2

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,744 posts)

10. Too bad there are no responsible leaders in this regime.

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:24 PM

Dec 2

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

15. There were adults in the room last time around

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:27 PM

Dec 2

Thiel Musk and Miller and Project 2025 made sure THAT didn't happen again.

God help us.

Skittles

(169,617 posts)

39. you got that right

Reply to MarineCombatEngineer (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 08:05 PM

Dec 2

that is the problem when TRUMP WHORE is the ONLY qualification needed to serve in Trump.2 - at least the first time around he had HANDLERS

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

12. As a sober alcoholic

Reply to Irish_Dem (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:25 PM

Dec 2

I recognize the dynamic.

"You don't know what it's like, it's your fault I drink."

Irish_Dem

(79,886 posts)

26. Drinking is just one of his problems.

Reply to orangecrush (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:00 PM

Dec 2

Most alcoholics are not sadistic murderers.

And yes of course, he is going to blame his drinking on everyone else.

YoshidaYui

(44,964 posts)

9. do YOU KNOW PRESIDENT TRUMP killed over a million people last year with COVID??

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:24 PM

Dec 2

FUCK YOUR NUMBERS TRUMP YOU FUCKING LIAR

MustLoveBeagles

(14,801 posts)

20. He has a lot to answer for

Reply to YoshidaYui (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:35 PM

Dec 2

senseandsensibility

(24,255 posts)

21. Apparently he told a WP reporter that he was asking a difficult

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:35 PM

Dec 2

question because he hadn't experienced the fog of war (like Hegseth) but according to a repost by Aaron Rupar, the journalist in question HAS experienced violent combat to a greater degree than Hegseth. This needs more attention.

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

22. The expression on that reporters face

Reply to senseandsensibility (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:41 PM

Dec 2

Said he wasn't buying the bullshit.

rurallib

(64,556 posts)

23. can't wait for his perp walk

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:59 PM

Dec 2

hope to see it soon.

Submariner

(13,251 posts)

24. At least we have the comfort of knowing he stopped drinking

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 05:10 PM

Dec 2

so he would have a stable and be of clear mind as head of the Department of Fucking War.

Blue Owl

(58,180 posts)

25. That keg is blown

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 05:42 PM

Dec 2

Emile

(40,656 posts)

27. He's on his way out.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:04 PM

Dec 2

The Roux Comes First

(2,156 posts)

29. This is the Sort of Behavior We Should Be Checking for When Advancing Children to High School

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:09 PM

Dec 2

Total lack of accountability and chronic dishonesty. Skip right from JHS (OK, MS) to a presidential campaign!

ananda

(34,447 posts)

30. Truman: The buck stops here.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:10 PM

Dec 2

...

taxi

(2,676 posts)

31. OMG! go to the 0:55 mark and listen

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:31 PM

Dec 2

The question posed is 'on the second strike, you said it happened more than an hour after the first?

An hour! This was no impulsive decision. This was a cold and calculated maneuver that complies with a 'dead men tell no tales' mentality. Cold blooded murder.

Cold blooded murder.

dalton99a

(92,158 posts)

32. +1

Reply to taxi (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:38 PM

Dec 2

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

38. Exactly.

Reply to taxi (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:59 PM

Dec 2

And it looked like he started panicking at that question.

kacekwl

(8,884 posts)

33. Don't you dare say on

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 06:58 PM

Dec 2

behalf of the American people you coward. Everything you and your bone spider leader do is criminal and weak.

La Coliniere

(1,758 posts)

36. The "fog of war" I believe refers to a psychological state of mind,

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:45 PM

Dec 2

not by having obscured vision because of the smoke and fumes caused by explosives, which is how, I believe, he was using the phrase. What a moron…and a cowardly liar.

orangecrush

(28,453 posts)

37. I believe you are correct

Reply to La Coliniere (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 07:57 PM

Dec 2

returnee

(821 posts)

42. Thank you.

Reply to La Coliniere (Reply #36)

Wed Dec 3, 2025, 04:05 PM

Dec 3

Glad someone said it. Actual visual obstruction is not what MacNamara was talking about. Whiskey Pete was probably referring to fog of whiskey. He is so stupid and incompetent.

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