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mysteryowl

(8,078 posts) Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:51 AM Dec 2

Where is the proof of drugs being transported?

And, what was the assault against the US? Weapons? Where and what, it was an open boat.

Has the media asked these questions?

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Where is the proof of drugs being transported? (Original Post) mysteryowl Dec 2 OP

Lost in the debate about the strike in question - is the illegality of ALL of it. All of the strikes. 617Blue Dec 2 #1

The media needs to expand their thinking. mysteryowl Dec 2 #2

The media is owned by the wealthy and they are not going to tell the truth as they OWN the media Stargazer99 Dec 2 #12

This is one reason I read "The Guardian/US" independent news. mysteryowl Dec 2 #14

This. They are whitewashing it in front of our eyes. NONE of these strikes are legal travelingthrulife Dec 2 #11

What drugs from Venezuela even make it to North America? EYESORE 9001 Dec 2 #3

Yes! Plus... since when were drugs a death sentence? mysteryowl Dec 2 #6

That's a whole different thing EYESORE 9001 Dec 2 #19

The media...or most of it kwolf68 Dec 2 #4

If they are carrying drugs or not, is irrelevant to the fact that we are executing them without proof. That's unAmerican Walleye Dec 2 #5

And, since when do we execute for supposedly drug trafficking? mysteryowl Dec 2 #7

Exactly, it is not a capital crime even with a trial and a jury Walleye Dec 2 #8

No physical evidence. No prisoners. No case. No justice. Just murder for headlines. Ping Tung Dec 2 #9

They let two survivors go back home after they blew up their fishing boat. travelingthrulife Dec 2 #10

(IN)JUSTICE FOR DRUG SMUGGLERS! usonian Dec 2 #13

There isn't any. It's a pretext, like Iraq's mythical WMDs, for more regime change Ocelot II Dec 2 #15

11 people take up a lot of space Mz Pip Dec 2 #16

They are liars! mysteryowl Dec 2 #17

If there was proof, Hegseth would have released it LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2 #18

All blowed up! Bmoboy Dec 2 #20

There is zero proof, it's murder on the high sea tRump style. He will be doing this to us next. Nt yaesu Dec 2 #21

617Blue

(2,189 posts)

1. Lost in the debate about the strike in question - is the illegality of ALL of it. All of the strikes.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:53 AM

Dec 2

mysteryowl

(8,078 posts)

2. The media needs to expand their thinking.

Reply to 617Blue (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:56 AM

Dec 2

Hopefully, there will be investigations that ask these questions.

Stargazer99

(3,441 posts)

12. The media is owned by the wealthy and they are not going to tell the truth as they OWN the media

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:34 AM

Dec 2

mysteryowl

(8,078 posts)

14. This is one reason I read "The Guardian/US" independent news.

Reply to Stargazer99 (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:37 AM

Dec 2

I find their reporting to be thorough.
https://www.theguardian.com/us

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)

11. This. They are whitewashing it in front of our eyes. NONE of these strikes are legal

Reply to 617Blue (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:25 AM

Dec 2

whether they are the first strike or the 15th.

EYESORE 9001

(29,459 posts)

3. What drugs from Venezuela even make it to North America?

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:58 AM

Dec 2

‘None’ is the answer. Venezuelan drugs and include cocaine and pot - both destined for Europe & beyond.

mysteryowl

(8,078 posts)

6. Yes! Plus... since when were drugs a death sentence?

Reply to EYESORE 9001 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:09 AM

Dec 2

I know people are harmed by taking illegal drugs, but that is not my point.

EYESORE 9001

(29,459 posts)

19. That's a whole different thing

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 11:13 AM

Dec 2

If these aren’t ‘war crimes’ because there hasn’t been a declaration of war against Venezuela, then it looks like plain old murder.

kwolf68

(8,262 posts)

4. The media...or most of it

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 09:59 AM

Dec 2

Is carrying the water, constantly calling them "drug boats", so the connotation is already in place to protect the monsters. Even if they ARE drug boats, this still isn't legal or ethical.

Walleye

(43,844 posts)

5. If they are carrying drugs or not, is irrelevant to the fact that we are executing them without proof. That's unAmerican

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:08 AM

Dec 2

Geez, I used to be proud to live in this country because our rules were humane. We didn’t attack unless we were attacked. That’s all gone now. It doesn’t take much to destroy integrity. I am feeling like a possibly religious person who has lost their faith in God completely.

mysteryowl

(8,078 posts)

7. And, since when do we execute for supposedly drug trafficking?

Reply to Walleye (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:13 AM

Dec 2

Walleye

(43,844 posts)

8. Exactly, it is not a capital crime even with a trial and a jury

Reply to mysteryowl (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:15 AM

Dec 2

Ping Tung

(4,143 posts)

9. No physical evidence. No prisoners. No case. No justice. Just murder for headlines.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:21 AM

Dec 2

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)

10. They let two survivors go back home after they blew up their fishing boat.

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:23 AM

Dec 2

Would you let such deadly criminals go?

Media could find these two and the widows of the other people murdered to get the story.

usonian

(23,590 posts)

13. (IN)JUSTICE FOR DRUG SMUGGLERS!

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:34 AM

Dec 2

Reminder!!

Trump: We don't want to be the policemen of the world BY BRETT SAMUELS - 04/30/18 6:30 AM
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20729427

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385521-trump-we-dont-want-to-be-the-policemen-of-the-world/

President Trump on Monday said the U.S. should no longer serve as the “policemen of the world.”

“We more and more are not wanting to be the policemen of the world,” Trump said during a joint press conference with Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari.

“We’re spending tremendous amounts of money for decades policing the world, and that shouldn’t be the priority,” he said.

Trump ran on the promise that he would extricate the U.S. from foreign wars.

And why?

Ocelot II

(129,124 posts)

15. There isn't any. It's a pretext, like Iraq's mythical WMDs, for more regime change

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:40 AM

Dec 2

for US hegemony and the oil.

Mz Pip

(28,352 posts)

16. 11 people take up a lot of space

Reply to mysteryowl (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 10:41 AM

Dec 2

If you’re trying to move a lot of cocaine, wouldn’t it be more practical to use the space for drugs and not people? You certainly don’t need to cram 11 people into a small boat.

Something stinks about this. What is the purpose of all these people?