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Buttoneer

(910 posts) Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:27 PM Nov 30

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Isn't blowing up Venezuelan boats an example of FOLLOWING ILLEGAL ORDERS?

Asking for war criminals.

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Isn't blowing up Venezuelan boats an example of FOLLOWING ILLEGAL ORDERS? (Original Post) Buttoneer Nov 30 OP

Yes Cirsium Nov 30 #1

We don't even know if they were Venezuelan Bmoboy Nov 30 #2

No. They are drug boats in international waters. The follow-up strikes on the boat to finish them off is illegal. Melon Nov 30 #3

declaring targets as 'terrorist organization' provides a good deal of cover stopdiggin Nov 30 #4

Absolutely. No question. ananda Nov 30 #5

Is it legal to kill drug smugglers without a trial? Emile Nov 30 #6

Even criminals are entitled to a trial MustLoveBeagles Nov 30 #7

Cirsium

(3,276 posts)

1. Yes

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:31 PM

Nov 30

Of course it is.

Bmoboy

(604 posts)

2. We don't even know if they were Venezuelan

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:31 PM

Nov 30

And we never will. All evidence was blowed up.

Melon

(975 posts)

3. No. They are drug boats in international waters. The follow-up strikes on the boat to finish them off is illegal.

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:50 PM

Nov 30

They’ve declared the drug cartels a foreign terrorist organizations.

stopdiggin

(14,884 posts)

4. declaring targets as 'terrorist organization' provides a good deal of cover

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:53 PM

Nov 30

Most likely enough to satisfy at least our legal system - ostensibly both military (which is most likely the one that counts) and civilian.

I guess we'll see whether the matter is taken up anywhere. Meantime - I think the post combat execution of survivors (be they either civilian or terrorist) - provides a much cleared and more defined case to be brought.

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ananda

(34,244 posts)

5. Absolutely. No question.

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:58 PM

Nov 30

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Emile

(40,113 posts)

6. Is it legal to kill drug smugglers without a trial?

Reply to Buttoneer (Original post)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 08:01 PM

Nov 30

MustLoveBeagles

(14,366 posts)

7. Even criminals are entitled to a trial

Reply to Emile (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 30, 2025, 09:00 PM

Nov 30

At least in this country. I feel this is simply an excuse to go to war.

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