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Four GOP Defections Derail House Vote on Trumps Big Beautiful Bill
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Alerta News 24
Mario Nawfal
Disclose.tv
Updated Jul 2, 2025, 11:16 PM
A late-night procedural vote in the U.S. House of Representatives collapsed after four Republicans broke ranks, leaving President Donald Trumps signature Big Beautiful Bill without the 217 votes needed to proceed. The tally, reported by multiple congressional trackers, stood at roughly 203 in favor and 216 against when the vote was gaveled to a close, with all Democrats opposing the motion.
Representatives Andrew Clyde of Georgia, Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Victoria Spartz of Indiana and Keith Self of Texas joined the Democratic bloc, erasing what earlier in the evening had been claimed as a united 220-member Republican front. Their defections drew cheers from Democrats on the floor and forced House Speaker Mike Johnson and other GOP leaders to abandon plans for immediate consideration of the measure.
The setback came a day after the Senate advanced the sprawling package on a 51-50 vote, with Vice President J.D. Vance breaking the tie. Fiscal-conservative holdouts in the House said the bill could add $3 trillion to $4 trillion to the deficit while watering down previously negotiated spending curbs, prompting calls for deeper cuts before they would agree to move it forward.
GOP leaders did not announce whenor whetherthey will attempt another vote. Until at least one of the defectors is persuaded to switch positions, Trumps high-priority legislation remains stalled on Capitol Hill.
Fin.
https://deepnewz.com/us-legislation/four-gop-defections-imperil-trumps-big-beautiful-bill-house-a658c1ed
Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)It doesn't seem so
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)The article looks like it was written by AI.
Jack Valentino
(4,381 posts)rather than an actual vote on the bill itself---
This vote would not totally kill the bill itself, but it is a HUGE setback
if the House votes not to consider it at all, at this point in time....
(probably based on votes from far-right who thought the bill created too much more debt,
and some GOP "moderates" who didn't want to starve poor people,
and a few others for whatever reason---- haven't read the details yet)
but I do applaud this action! Refusing to even proceed to 'consider' it,
is GOOD NEWS for the American people at large--- for the moment, at least!
There won't be any big "BBB Celebration" on July 4 by the orange muffin in chief---
unless of course, he claims that his BBB was passed, when it wasn't
(and by all his previous conduct, that is NOT outside the realm
of demented possibilities...)
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)The vote failed. This time.
Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)When was the losing vote gaveled close? Do you have an authoritative source for that?
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)Because it's not true
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)The time for being helpfully engaged in debate on the topic in this OP discussion has passed. Sorry that you missed it.
NJCher
(42,521 posts)Determine it was written by AI, pls.
Renew Deal
(84,709 posts)This never happened: "The tally, reported by multiple congressional trackers, stood at roughly 203 in favor and 216 against when the vote was gaveled to a close"
That's the most important indicator. Gen AI loves to make up stories and assumptions. A human should not have made that mistake.
Other indicators are the writing. Using words that aren't common for the topic like the "Democratic bloc."
The source also seems questionable. "Deepnewz"
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)OpenAl (o3)
Updated Jul 2, 2025, 11:16 PM
I only checked the bias of the aggregator, I didn't check the sited sources. No "magic" was involved in determining if it was AI. It's clearly stated.
I used the source anyway.
Because it was a fluid situation plus the reference was time stamped early in the proceedings, so it stood to reason that things could change.
https://deepnewz.com/us-legislation/four-gop-defections-derail-house-vote-on-trumps-big-beautiful-bill-18e8af6b
IcyPeas
(24,881 posts)Him who handed out AR-15 pins to his despicable colleagues?
Chellee
(2,283 posts)that they stripped out the elimination of the tax on silencers. And as a gun store owner, he can't abide that silencers are currently taxed. Apparently, it's a deeply held conviction of his that people that want to kill other people should be able to do so both quietly and inexpensively.
Jack Valentino
(4,381 posts)but I am not at liberty to elaborate on that opinion
Fiendish Thingy
(22,078 posts)I thought he was the strongest opponent to the senate bill.
Bluetus
(2,319 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(22,078 posts)littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #4)
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Silent Type
(12,412 posts)dweller
(27,862 posts)Tree Lady
(13,014 posts)These idiots want more cuts.
bob4460
(379 posts)progressoid
(52,599 posts)misanthrope
(9,380 posts)What are they holding out for? Personal favors? Cash gifts? More cruelty?
Justice matters.
(9,417 posts)orleans
(36,676 posts)Rhiannon12866
(250,433 posts)During his meeting with GOP holdouts, Trump had to be informed that his budget bill did indeed kick Americans off Medicaid, according to NOTUS. But were touching Medicaid in this bill, one member reportedly responded to Trump. Rep. Jamie Raskin joins to discuss. - Aired on 07/02/2025.
DFW
(59,747 posts)There are more than a few Republican Senators and House Reps who are secretly very, very relieved.
Too timid to vote their consciences, they can now breathe a sigh of relief in private, while expressing disappointment in public.
Dont get me wrong. This aint over yet. But they were all in a car going sixty that just ran over a railroad tie, and none of them were wearing seat belts. They may yet get there, but their initial progress just got yanked backwards. Trump will huff and puff, but at least this round, he did not blow the House down.
LisaM
(29,496 posts)And with the holdouts saying it's basically not bad enough, it gives a couple of Senate Republicans cover. Maybe they figured out a way to thwart Trump, not that I trust Republicans by any means, but it's likely the only possible solution, acting as if you could only get on board if the bill is somehow made worse.
0rganism
(25,477 posts)I mean these are people who nominally represent a section of the population as part of the federal government, and while they're fully capable of lying endlessly, I have no other reason to believe they don't speak for the majority in their districts in this instance. And damn near all the other Republicans openly support taking the bill for its final vote, as ugly as it already is. The only reason Johnson's left hilariously waving his dick in the wind right now is that the senate version of the BUBBA TRUMP bill isn't evil enough.
These paragons of cartoon evil will likely succumb to corruption, so Republicans can probably get this monstrosity passed in the next 12 hours.
Jack Valentino
(4,381 posts)medicaid and SNAP recipients, are opposing the 'motion to proceed' on the bill
because it would not hurt those American citizens ' enough ' ....
Publicly they want more 'deficit reduction'---
but such cuts by their "ideals" can only come from the social safety net, and nowhere else
I applaud them for having the courage of their misplaced convictions
to halt this bill, even against the rage of Trump,
although their reasons for doing so are completely against our own ideals...
FirstLight
(15,771 posts)And from what he says they're still nine more that have not voted. He says this is the longest vote in the history of the house that it Mike Johnson has kept it open and people are dragging their feet...
Is anybody actually watching this do we have a thread going on that?
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)FirstLight
(15,771 posts)Cracks in the armor division in the ranks I will take all of that as a win for now..
Good night I got to go to bed it's almost midnight here on the West Coast LOL but I guess it's past two back there!
littlemissmartypants
(31,683 posts)BigmanPigman
(54,593 posts)What's going on?!? Did it pass or not?!? I thought the 4 GOP holdouts were pretty solid.
I don't want to be here anymore. It's so damn depressing 24/7 for 8 years. This is pure torture.
The GOP sadists want to first bankrupt us then kill us, in that order.
Raine
(31,095 posts)Arazi
(8,709 posts)The Senate version will pass at 8 am or so without any changes to derail it
Freddie
(10,062 posts)Im sure this was because the party allowed his symbolic no because its meaningless now, hes done this before. This is probably the one district thats most likely to go blue in the country. But if theyd needed his vote, hed be kissing ass like all the rest.
Orrex
(66,691 posts)They'd cast their vote with their lips literally pressed to Trump's ass, if they could manage of it.
There is no such thing as a principled Republican.