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markpkessinger

(8,880 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:05 AM Jul 2025

Maybe it's just me . . .

. . . but I really have to wonder what is going on behind the scenes that we don't know about that is enabling Republicans to be so cavalier about defying public opinion.

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Maybe it's just me . . . (Original Post) markpkessinger Jul 2025 OP
Maybe they already know the 2026 mid-terms aren't going to happen. Chasstev365 Jul 2025 #1
Bingo Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #4
Point taken. Or after '24, they've frgured out how to steal elections now. brush Jul 2025 #5
No. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #6
They'll happen but ICE will make sure they're "fair" durablend Jul 2025 #12
This. nt Wednesdays Jul 2025 #20
Oh, yes, this again. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #22
Remind me when the last time we had a president like tRump. Times they are a changin'. flashman13 Jul 2025 #24
It's a more than a plan, it's a done deal: sop Jul 2025 #45
Like everything else it will ultimately be decided in court. flashman13 Jul 2025 #53
what exactly has been decided in court since 2016? rampartd Jul 2025 #79
Not if nobody wants to risk jail time for just working as Election Official... Justice matters. Jul 2025 #80
Exactly. This is a Whole New Fucking Scenario. Cha Jul 2025 #65
About that... I read thtat they Cha Jul 2025 #66
How many times has a January 6th happened? Chasstev365 Jul 2025 #42
And every 1/6 insurrectionist was pardoned by Trump, and a number of them are in his administration. sop Jul 2025 #46
People who have a historical perspective PatSeg Jul 2025 #59
Historical perspective? PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #68
The Republican administration of Miami has canceled elections for this year UniqueUserName Jul 2025 #84
Yes, paving the way for other cities or states PatSeg Jul 2025 #86
Historical perspective worldwide PatSeg Jul 2025 #85
Yearly?? it's DAILY.... Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #69
Daily cancelled elections? PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #71
No, daily predictions of such Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #73
Oh, right. I am seeing those daily predictions here PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #77
NO, not exactly--- but I do understand how that might be alarming to many people Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #81
Your post reminds me of Tori Amos's "Taxi Ride" /nt UniqueUserName Jul 2025 #88
That's gerryatwork Jul 2025 #47
2026 midterms OrangeJoe Jul 2025 #82
They are no longer worried about elections. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #2
Trump promised that they would never have to vote again. Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #3
Susan Collins will write a sternly worded letter. Ray Bruns Jul 2025 #8
The President has nothing to do with whether 50 state elections happen or not--- Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #70
Stationing troops in democratic states. Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #74
I think it is because they are politically stupid, and quite possibly believe Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #75
If the big ugly bill I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2025 #76
It's called REDISTRIICTING and it's happens in plain sight 617Blue Jul 2025 #7
Texas Republicans are markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #54
Tarrant County is one of them MagickMuffin Jul 2025 #64
You won't have to vote anymore Emile Jul 2025 #9
Many reasons that have nothing to do with doomerism projections of cancelled elections Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #10
"...provoke a huge revolt...with lots of violence..." Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #21
Very big difference between those individual events and cancelling Nationwide elections Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #25
Sorry,.. Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #31
Oh really? Mysterian Jul 2025 #34
"Pick up a book"... Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #44
For yourself Mysterian Jul 2025 #48
I actually was a history major... Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #56
Wow, I'm so impressed! Mysterian Jul 2025 #60
As you should be! Wuddles440 Jul 2025 #87
You have no clue, professor Mysterian Jul 2025 #89
All it would take DV1 Jul 2025 #50
Sez Who? BidenRocks Jul 2025 #36
Thank you for this. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2025 #26
I have no concern whatsoever that the 2026 midterms will be canceled. I do have major concerns... Pacifist Patriot Jul 2025 #43
"Cancelling the 2026 midterms would provoke a huge revolt from the US public..." OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #35
Most are narcissists and could care less about anything or anyone but themselves. walkingman Jul 2025 #11
While that is certainly true . . . markpkessinger Jul 2025 #14
True - that and Trump speaks their language....racism, homophobia, xenophobia, walkingman Jul 2025 #28
Rigged elections Farmer-Rick Jul 2025 #13
EXACTLY! ElementaryPenguin Jul 2025 #33
Too much money in the hands of only a few egos. nt Festivito Jul 2025 #15
The fix is already in. hamsterjill Jul 2025 #16
I think 24 was stolen, BonnieJW Jul 2025 #19
I tend to agree. hamsterjill Jul 2025 #39
Yup, I agree, the fix is in. StarryNite Jul 2025 #30
Well said. hamsterjill Jul 2025 #40
Never underestimate their ignorance & hubris. CaptainTruth Jul 2025 #17
Lack of self-awareness is common among MAGAts; I'm inclined to believe LeftinOH Jul 2025 #18
They were all talking DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #23
Between various forms of voter suppression, massive dark money, gerrymandering, and propaganda unblock Jul 2025 #27
The only opinion they care about is the GOP primary voter and they're all MAGA surfered Jul 2025 #29
They know how to cheat to win now. dlilafae Jul 2025 #32
They know, one way or the other, the fix is in. IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2025 #37
No more elections, they control LEO and the military. What's to worry about? mucholderthandirt Jul 2025 #38
They may think they can cheat again but - Nigrum Cattus Jul 2025 #41
Its simple really angrychair Jul 2025 #49
It's not just you ThornSurf91 Jul 2025 #51
I just called my Rep markie Jul 2025 #52
yes........same reason they are so cavalier about ALL their fascism Skittles Jul 2025 #55
No it's not just you, I think we are in for a very unplesant mid terms. Autumn Jul 2025 #57
there will be so much hope built up Skittles Jul 2025 #62
Their voters vote for them no matter what, isn't even a remote possibility of voting for Democrats for most. betsuni Jul 2025 #58
Voter purges on steroids pat_k Jul 2025 #61
faith based politics. cause they are RIGHT DAMMIT!!!! pansypoo53219 Jul 2025 #63
I think the are more scared of Trump Tree Lady Jul 2025 #67
trmp defies the courts, defies the laws, he defies it all. spanone Jul 2025 #72
They are SURE that when Democrats win Figarosmom Jul 2025 #78
I don't think they will cancel the mid-term elections PikaBlue Jul 2025 #83
Yep malaise Jul 2025 #90

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,454 posts)
22. Oh, yes, this again.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:18 AM
Jul 2025

The yearly prediction of cancelled elections.

Remind me again how often that has happened?

flashman13

(2,027 posts)
24. Remind me when the last time we had a president like tRump. Times they are a changin'.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jul 2025

BTW, the plan is to cancel local elections in Miami.

rampartd

(3,813 posts)
79. what exactly has been decided in court since 2016?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:41 PM
Jul 2025

that trump is a criminal felon who regularly oversteps his authority and there is NOTHING they can do to stop him.

Justice matters.

(9,395 posts)
80. Not if nobody wants to risk jail time for just working as Election Official...
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:46 PM
Jul 2025

The blondie DOJ has been 'ordered' to look at what they can make up to intimidate Election Officials with. So how about nobody wants to show up at work on Election Day (by fear of getting arrested for who knows what made up accusation, like a 'peaceful' J6 redux), uh? Oh... "sorry, we have to cancel it because, nobody wants to do the job..." gee, we wonder why...

Re: Justice Dept. Explores Using Criminal Charges Against Election Officials
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143489800

The always-plotting-malfeasance convicted idiot said "vote for me, and you will never have to vote ever again, I will FIX it for good, you'll never have to vote" so... this is what is on his criminal mind to do it...

Cha

(316,794 posts)
65. Exactly. This is a Whole New Fucking Scenario.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:07 PM
Jul 2025

Traitor gets in charge in '24 and has told the cult that they won't have to vote again. .. and now the Us is Full of the Neo Gestapo masquerading as ICE

Full Blown Neo Nazism. I can't imagine Patriots just accepting this lying down.

Cha

(316,794 posts)
66. About that... I read thtat they
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:09 PM
Jul 2025

want to set up their elections for an even year so more will vote.

sop

(17,438 posts)
46. And every 1/6 insurrectionist was pardoned by Trump, and a number of them are in his administration.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:43 AM
Jul 2025

PatSeg

(52,190 posts)
59. People who have a historical perspective
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:33 PM
Jul 2025

have good reason to anticipate "cancelled elections". We've been heading in the direction of an autocracy for quite some time and many people realize that it is possible, even in the United States. It happens all over the world. We are not immune.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,454 posts)
68. Historical perspective?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:45 PM
Jul 2025

Once again, tell me about earlier cancelled elections in this country.

Plus, do you REALLY expect every one of the 50 states would go along with that? You do? Based on what.

Again, the prospect of a cancelled election is a perennial trope here on DU. Elections won't be cancelled. If for no other reason than lots and lots of things and people are elected, not just the President.

PatSeg

(52,190 posts)
86. Yes, paving the way for other cities or states
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:49 AM
Jul 2025

to do the same thing, getting people used to the idea until it becomes nationwide. We've already seen that happen with abortion rights.

PatSeg

(52,190 posts)
85. Historical perspective worldwide
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:44 AM
Jul 2025

We are not as unique as we'd like to believe we are. There are so many things that I would have never thought possible in the U.S. until recent years. Now I am prepared for anything.

As someone else mentioned, they've cancelled elections in Miami. Though hardly nationwide, that is how such changes start, on a state or local level.

I'm not saying there will be cancelled elections. Personally, I think republicans are more inclined to just cheat, but I wouldn't be surprised if we saw cancelled elections due to some fabricated national emergency. Trump has implied that before.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,454 posts)
77. Oh, right. I am seeing those daily predictions here
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:31 PM
Jul 2025

and keep on questioning them. Meanwhile, what elections have been cancelled?

And changing one from 2025 to 2026 is NOT a cancelled election.

OrangeJoe

(555 posts)
82. 2026 midterms
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:20 AM
Jul 2025

Rather than leap to the maximalist position on the 2026 mid-terms (and with this basket of deplorables nothing surprises me) I think a simpler explanation is the fact that the Medicaid cuts don't kick in until after the 2026 election. I can see Fox running pieces interviewing people on Medicaid before that time and pooh-poohing the Democrats as fear mongers because everything is ok.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
70. The President has nothing to do with whether 50 state elections happen or not---
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:56 PM
Jul 2025

He *might* try to prevent it, but a midnight rant on "Truth" Social won't do it---
and even if he tried to deploy the military to all 50 states to stop elections,
he doesn't have the logistic capability to do that effectively---

and, such an action would effectively initiate civil war,
and much of the military itself would not be on his side....

Blue Full Moon

(3,166 posts)
74. Stationing troops in democratic states.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:15 PM
Jul 2025

Has any of the courts actually made him obey the law yet? No they have not. The republicans are not concerned one iota that their constituents don't support them. It's because they are secure.

Jack Valentino

(4,375 posts)
75. I think it is because they are politically stupid, and quite possibly believe
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jul 2025

that this is their only chance to come close to repealing Obamacare and the New Deal,
which may be quite true

and Mitch McConnell tells them "don't worry, they will forget about it"
while the rest of the choir sings about how great their 'beautiful bill' is for America....


If Trump and the GQP politicians actually tried to go way over the red line
of "cancelling the elections", I believe that a fair number of them
would have a very rude awakening while looking at a great big O pointed at them,
and some of those O's would be wielded by those who had previously been their own supporters

possibly some "red states" might bow down and cancel their elections,
but the blue states will not--- in such a scenario, we win the election...

and if we have to march on Washington DC to enforce the will of the voters,
ala "J6"--- in that instance, we will have RIGHT and NUMBERS
on our side!





I_UndergroundPanther

(13,330 posts)
76. If the big ugly bill
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:08 PM
Jul 2025

Passes it says in the bill trump can postpone or cancel elections. It could very well happen. These aren’t normal times we have been for the most part couped

617Blue

(2,189 posts)
7. It's called REDISTRIICTING and it's happens in plain sight
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jul 2025

Throw in the other voting suppression laws and techniques the GOP uses and it's not really a mystery.

They are all invulnerable.

MagickMuffin

(18,076 posts)
64. Tarrant County is one of them
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jul 2025


The election “judge” was the chairman of the Tarrant County republicans.

He is extremely biased and a partisan hack.


Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. Many reasons that have nothing to do with doomerism projections of cancelled elections
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 2025

* They don't think sentiment is as bad as it is. They read Rasmussen and Trafalgar polls.

* They backloaded the worst cuts to after 2026, so they think they are clever

* They think that the coming deregulation blizzard will boost the economy a lot, enough to reverse dark economic clouds gathering on the horizon.

* They are under the thumb of tRump's primary threats and who knows what else he has on them.

Note: Cancelling the 2026 midterms would provoke a huge revolt from the US public, even from maga and RepubliCons, with lots of violence. Even the orange regime can see that is a bridge too far. Everything would go down, including billionaire safety and net worths, by a lot.

Wuddles440

(1,967 posts)
21. "...provoke a huge revolt...with lots of violence..."
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jul 2025

Unlikely based on the relatively tepid response to the ICE abductions, assaults on Democratic politicians, pervasive corruption, and abandonment of the Rule of Law, the MAGATS and their Orange Messiah are projecting a self-assurance that the general public lacks the appetite for such actions and confident that any resistance would be futile, especially with the extent of the 'security' force that they're amassing.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
25. Very big difference between those individual events and cancelling Nationwide elections
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jul 2025

When 5 to 11 million (estimates vary) come out for No Kings day June 14, cancelling nationwide elections would cause such massive turnout to make that look paltry.

Wuddles440

(1,967 posts)
31. Sorry,..
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:50 AM
Jul 2025

but most Democrats/Progressives/Liberals aren't inclined to "revolt and engage in violence", it's not in their DNA. The MAGATS know this and effectively exploit that vulnerability. Can you imagine a non-MAGAT participating in a coup and assaulting the U.S Capitol? Not likely! However, when they come for me (and based on my background, I know that they eventually will do so), I'm preparing to take a few of them with me.

Mysterian

(6,177 posts)
34. Oh really?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:03 AM
Jul 2025

So fascists took over the world and nobody stopped them. I must have missed that part. Liberals will rise up and fight when the time comes. We're just not the type to rise up for some dirtbag shitheel tyrant like Donald fucking Trump and embarrass our nation with a stupid attack on the Capitol. We will fight for our freedom and we will win. Like we have time and time again. Pick up a book.

Wuddles440

(1,967 posts)
44. "Pick up a book"...
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jul 2025

To do what? Force them to read? Threaten to throw at them if they don't stop being nasty? Hey, but you do you as they say. I'll go with something much more lethal for defense.

Wuddles440

(1,967 posts)
56. I actually was a history major...
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:31 PM
Jul 2025

and graduated with honors, but was is "obvious" to me is that you have absolutely no concept nor understanding of history or our current world. Have a great life.

Mysterian

(6,177 posts)
60. Wow, I'm so impressed!
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 04:40 PM
Jul 2025

A history major! A regular professor emeritus! Tell us more about how liberals never fight, professor....

Wuddles440

(1,967 posts)
87. As you should be!
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jul 2025

It really does help if you've received some advanced education beyond high school (hopefully completed or at least a GED) and actually have read some books. Give it a try, as it may expose you to a whole new world!

DV1

(138 posts)
50. All it would take
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:05 PM
Jul 2025

are some dedicated individuals, perhaps around 100, with the training and equipment to spark irreversible fear in the fearmongers with a few quick sorties.
That would definitely change the equation.

BidenRocks

(2,780 posts)
36. Sez Who?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 2025

When ya got nothin', you've got nothin' to lose.

Remember Chump I?
Vote for me! What do you have to lose?

FREEDOM!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,454 posts)
26. Thank you for this.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:23 AM
Jul 2025

Your note: Cancelling the 2026 midterms would provoke a huge revolt from the US public, even from maga and RepubliCons, with lots of violence. Even the orange regime can see that is a bridge too far. Everything would go down, including billionaire safety and net worths, by a lot. is most important.

I get exasperated at all the statements here that the 2026 elections will be cancelled, in no small part because individual states run their own elections, so maybe Texas will cancel theirs, but other state will. Plus, of course, just in case you haven't noticed, we vote for a whole lot more offices than just the president.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,186 posts)
43. I have no concern whatsoever that the 2026 midterms will be canceled. I do have major concerns...
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jul 2025

about vote suppression through legal, administrative, and borderline illegal tactics.

OldBaldy1701E

(10,192 posts)
35. "Cancelling the 2026 midterms would provoke a huge revolt from the US public..."
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 2025

I am sorry to say it, but you have way more faith in the 'US public' than I do. Of course, that is just my opinion.

If what has already happened has not created a near revolt, then I don't see why that would get it started.

Face facts. He should have been in jail. His cronies should have been in various meetings about their involvement with his actions for the rest of their lives. If the expectation is everyone has to conform to the laws in this country, that should have happened. But...

We seem to be like deer in the headlights.

markpkessinger

(8,880 posts)
14. While that is certainly true . . .
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:45 AM
Jul 2025

. . . they also want to get re-elected. So narcissism alone doesn't explain it.

walkingman

(10,350 posts)
28. True - that and Trump speaks their language....racism, homophobia, xenophobia,
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 2025

White supremacy, and I could go on and on. I think these attitudes are core values of US history - it is who we are and always have been. Until we teach our children that they are unacceptable it will continue to be generational.

Farmer-Rick

(12,480 posts)
13. Rigged elections
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jul 2025

American oligarchs won't ever really let your vote count. Not since they stole the election from Gore.

ElementaryPenguin

(7,902 posts)
33. EXACTLY!
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jul 2025

That's when it started. Gore won, Supreme Court stepped in to stop the Florida recount that Bush was losing.

The Republican Party has not been committed to democracy since.

hamsterjill

(17,030 posts)
16. The fix is already in.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:55 AM
Jul 2025

What exactly HAS NOT happened yet on the Project 2025 agenda that would give ANYONE confidence that the midterms will happen and will be fair?

People who scoff at the very valid and real concern over this issue are either foolish, ignorant or simply not paying attention. We seem to have a few posters on DU who are hell-bent on insisting that things will continue as "normal". Well, "normal" went out the window a long, fucking time ago where Trump is concerned. I've seen nothing stopping him from doing what he damn well pleases, and I live in reality.

These posters remind me of the ones on DU who chastised the rest of us consistently to "give Garland more time". Well, four years later, we see where that got us.

So, don't bother telling me I'm worrying too much, I'm fearmongering, or I'm wrong. You won't change my mind. Because no one knows for sure until we get to the midterms, but something is obviously going on.

BonnieJW

(3,081 posts)
19. I think 24 was stolen,
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jul 2025

And 26 will be the same. Unless 24 can be exposed, 26 can't be prevented.

hamsterjill

(17,030 posts)
39. I tend to agree.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:22 AM
Jul 2025

Well, we KNOW that the 2000 election between Bush and Gore was not fair, and I have my suspicions about 2016. So 2024 is just them honing their talents at manipulating the votes. In 2026, they aren't even going to care if it's obvious and apparent.

StarryNite

(11,972 posts)
30. Yup, I agree, the fix is in.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:47 AM
Jul 2025

That's why the rethugs are more concerned about pleasing the orange POS than their voters. They want to be sure they are included and they get to go along for the ride. They know he and his puppeteers are the only ones who can get them on that E ticket ride. Voters mean nothing to them anymore.

hamsterjill

(17,030 posts)
40. Well said.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jul 2025

They don't need the little people any more. The only thing that will change will be when the little people actually rise up, and I don't know that I think that's going to happen.

I don't condone violence and I hope we can avoid it. But every person on this planet has a breaking point and when people start to see their loved one's dying on the couch because they can't get them medical care, medical equipment, or drugs to lessen the pain - THAT is going to be a breaking point for a lot of people.

CaptainTruth

(8,048 posts)
17. Never underestimate their ignorance & hubris.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jul 2025

They think they can do whatever they want & they're generally clueless.

Plus, they generally don't pay attention to things outside of their bubble.

LeftinOH

(5,616 posts)
18. Lack of self-awareness is common among MAGAts; I'm inclined to believe
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:03 AM
Jul 2025

that most of their hubris is sustained by the inward-focused narratives that they've been using for years amongst each other.. They're barely cognizant of how people outside of the MAGA bubble perceive things.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
23. They were all talking
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jul 2025

a month before the 2024 election, like they had the election in the bag already...........they didn't disappoint.....
Whatever they are doing to corrupt the elections is obviously in place......they don't have to worry about winning the vote ever again......

Was it Goebells? (sp) who was a major henchman of Hitler that said:

We don't worry about the votes, we focus on who is COUNTING the votes........Just as it is in Russia and other Dictatorships....

unblock

(55,928 posts)
27. Between various forms of voter suppression, massive dark money, gerrymandering, and propaganda
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:29 AM
Jul 2025

Not to mention a Supreme Court that is wiling to step in and help republicans win close elections, they know their party will maintain power. So they're more worried about being primaried than losing the general election.

The media will likely make sure this odious bill is long forgotten by November 2026 anyway. They'll throw the masses a tiny bone two month before the election and it will dominate news.

dlilafae

(371 posts)
32. They know how to cheat to win now.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:50 AM
Jul 2025

Do you really think our vote will count again? Nothing at all happened to them for cheating. So, why wouldn't they continue on? Do you really think tRump is going to risk going to jail after this?

mucholderthandirt

(1,753 posts)
38. No more elections, they control LEO and the military. What's to worry about?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 2025

Even if we got enough people off their asses, we won't win against the military. I used to think the rank and file members wouldn't face off against their family and friends, but after seeing stuff the last couple of decades, I no longer believe that.

The Project 2025 folks have spent decades infiltrating everything. Police, military, education, local governments. It was a long, drawn-out plan to make any opposition fail. Some of us tried to warn others, to make sure we put up good people to win and maybe thwart these plans, but it has been in vain. The politicians know where their money comes from. They take it gladly, and to hell with the rest of us. Just peons in some fantasy medieval video game. Welcome to the future, it won't be good for us.

Nigrum Cattus

(1,227 posts)
41. They may think they can cheat again but -
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jul 2025

they don't have musk, and he will be working against
them. Also, they think that because the cuts don't
kick in until after the 2026 elections

angrychair

(11,697 posts)
49. Its simple really
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jul 2025

Americans are, in general, ignorant cowards. Its not our fault to be fair. We have literally been trained since birth to be this way. We are told since childhood to not question authority, obey the rules and do as we are told.
We are trained to sit in a desk, face forward and obey authority for 8 hours a day for 12 years.

To do what?

sit in a desk, face forward and obey authority for 8 hours a day for 40+ years

So that then, for about an average of 5-7 years of retirement you can do a little of what you want but many adventures are way beyond most people due to age and declining health and limited income.

ThornSurf91

(6 posts)
51. It's not just you
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:05 PM
Jul 2025

I have participated in many Indivisible calls. Many have raised the question about lack of confidence in the 2026 elections. Same with writing our congress people. It makes no sense to carry through on such unpopular legislation unless you knew the election will not matter. BLUF: it’s not just you.

markie

(23,853 posts)
52. I just called my Rep
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 12:16 PM
Jul 2025

and insisted that there is no reason to vote Yes on this bill... I said, if he votes yes, I will do everything in my power to help elect someone who could better represent this community!!!

Skittles

(169,584 posts)
55. yes........same reason they are so cavalier about ALL their fascism
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jul 2025

they somehow know that what WE THE PEOPLE think means absolutely NOTHING

betsuni

(28,720 posts)
58. Their voters vote for them no matter what, isn't even a remote possibility of voting for Democrats for most.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:55 PM
Jul 2025

It's a religion, their identity. May as well ask them if they'd vote for Satan. Legislation is written by right-wing think tanks and organizations funded with obscene amounts of money, Republicans don't have to govern or do anything at all. The actual public has nothing to do with it. Democrats have nothing to do with it. Another reason why Both Sides is so incredibly stupid.

pat_k

(12,665 posts)
61. Voter purges on steroids
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jul 2025

Manipulated data to "match" and purge non-MAGA voters in the millions across the county.

Tree Lady

(13,008 posts)
67. I think the are more scared of Trump
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 09:11 PM
Jul 2025

Than us. Republicans may say a lot of things and some may seem to agree with us but in the end when it comes to voting they always vote R.

spanone

(141,015 posts)
72. trmp defies the courts, defies the laws, he defies it all.
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 10:03 PM
Jul 2025

Martial law is one of their weaopns.

Why worry?

Figarosmom

(9,751 posts)
78. They are SURE that when Democrats win
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:38 PM
Jul 2025

It's because illegals vote for them. So they are also SURE that once they are all gone, Dems will lose every election.

It's all part of their replacement theory. That we bring in or allow in so many immigrants is for control of the vote.

PikaBlue

(428 posts)
83. I don't think they will cancel the mid-term elections
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 06:23 AM
Jul 2025

but they may refuse to certify the results based on (you know) "fraud and corruption".

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