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Last edited Sat Jun 7, 2025, 11:42 AM - Edit history (2)
in and out of Missoula freaking Montana? Last weekend, Elon Musk flew into Missoula. He was shuttled up to the Paws Up resort for a three hour-ish meeting. His jet shuttled wealthy well connected people in and out all weekend. They also went to the Paws Up. The pilot of his plane spoke with my kiddo and when asked who these people were, the pilot said I cant tell you their names but what these people are involved in is on the front page of the paper every day.
JD Vance is coming tomorrow and headed to the Paws Up. The FAA has restricted our air spade for his arrival and departure. Secret Service has been busy at the private FBO where he will be received and all employees at that FBO have signed NDAs. Two C17s are also coming with Homeland Security on board. 50 rooms have been reserved at one hotel to house them. Guess the government doesnt want to pay to keep them at the swanky Paws Up.
WTH is happening? Why here?
ETA: UPDATE
The FAA has lifted the airspace restrictions for today. It appears Vance has cancelled his trip. Curiouser and curioser. If I hear anything else, Ill post it here. Thanks for your interest everyone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/missoula/comments/1l552mb/update_missoula_airport_restriction_for_unnamed/
sop
(17,325 posts)Hey, it could happen, right?
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)This resort where these yahoos are going is very exclusive and kinda/sorta in the middle of nowhere at least by city folk standards. I would think security would be very challenging up there. Very coincidental that theyre here back to back.
PittBlue
(4,698 posts)They will have all of their military toys there to do a full scale takeover.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)It is proposed for the Butte / Anaconda area and thats about 90 minutes from here. Why would they come to Missoula? We are a little hippie college town.
markie
(23,818 posts)Missoula was the only town I visited in Montana... nice place you've got there... shame it might be sullied by the likes of Vance or Musk
We certainly dont want either of them here.
gab13by13
(31,091 posts)The super rich want their own currency to play around in.
Krasnov has made 3 billion dollars this year from Crypto.
Everything that Krasnov is doing economically is designed to weaken the dollar and strengthen Crypto.
Krasnov's tariffs, his Big tax breaks that increase the deficit, his demanding that Jerome lower interest rates, are all designed to weaken the dollar and strengthen Crypto.
multigraincracker
(36,888 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(10,201 posts)A bit risky and based on nothing, but I have made money on it. I sold it all and am having nothing to do with it now that Trump has gotten involved and screwed with it.
electric_blue68
(25,692 posts)eppur_se_muova
(40,902 posts)Or settle for the Wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_mania which suggests the speculation was not as bizarre as some accounts claimed.
wolfie001
(7,017 posts)Kind of captures the frenzy on the downside of the bust. Couldn't destroy them fast enough. Hopefully, the republiCONs will be these tulips in the near future.

Erda
(218 posts)A novel written by Alexander Dumas, describes the craziness of this era.
That hotel in Moskva is costing us all a lot of money.
This phase of the plan given to Krasnov in the secret meeting was to have been implemented four years ago, but was interrupted by Biden's surprise victory. Putin was forced to invade Ukraine without Krasnov's help. The conduct of the War was slowed by the failure to install Klepto in the US in time to confound accountability and provide funding for the War and Black Ops supporting the destruction of Democracy in America. Now that they've sopped the investigative branches of government and installed quislings in positions of power, the plan is now getting back on track. Yahr Null is on its way. Burn Your Flag Today in Solidarity with MAGALOMANIA!!
ChazInAz
(2,993 posts)Silver currency for the Plebs, gold for the lords. Brought to a screeching halt by The Cross of Gold Speech.
Scrivener7
(58,170 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Maybe Musk and Vances trips are unrelated but its a huge coincidence and like Malcolm Nance says, coincidence takes a lot of planning.
Scrivener7
(58,170 posts)He'll be in Nashville tonight and then no info. Which would track if we are right.
This is getting really interesting.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)one of the two C17s or if AF2 will deliver him. Obviously AF2 would be the big tip off. The C17s not so much. Secret Service has been crawling at the FBO where musk landed a week ago and where vance will land.
Scrivener7
(58,170 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Ponietz
(4,226 posts)The announcement of the flight restriction comes on the heels of unconfirmed reports that billionaire Elon Musks plane landed in Missoula last weekend. An anonymous reddit account that tracks Musks jets alleged his plane landed in Missoula on Friday and took off on Saturday. The social media account also alleged Musks plane landed again in Missoula for one hour on Sunday.
As of Wednesday evening, the Missoulian was unable to confirm whether Musks plane had landed or whether he was on the aircraft.
What could be happening in our little mountain town that would draw such VERY IMPORTANT PEOPLE? I have some ideas, but Im saving em for the writing I do NOT immediately publish for readers to read for free.
Needless to say, I think something big might be brewing, so stay tuned for whatever curious tidbits I turn up.
https://zoomchron.com/2025/06/05/while-missoula-becomes-a-hub-for-vips-the-library-continues-to-be-a-hub-of-embarrassment-by-travis-mateer/
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)I only know that because my kiddo was working at the airport that day. Most of us assume that something big is going on behind the scenes. But here in little Missoula? It is very strange. It is amazing to me that the media hasnt been able to confirm Musk being here or Vance coming tomorrow. They havent contacted the right people at the airport. NDAs have been distributed and signed. Ive got a video of Musk getting on his plane that Ive been sworn not to share.
Ponietz
(4,226 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Ill get to work on that.
BurnDoubt
(1,387 posts)His unflagging (?) devotion to "saving humanity" is Epic.
Does he imagine himself an Archangel? He already has God-Complex Syndrome.
And I'm 99.99678 sure he violated Immigration Law at least once. And a lot of people are saying he is a likely sex criminal.
But he IS a member of a Protected Class: Deplorable Deposed White Oppressors. Admitted on a WTF 1-A Visa.
BurnDoubt
(1,387 posts)Ponietz
(4,226 posts)Paywall blocks me from reading it.
https://missoulian.com news state-regional government-politics article_cc67ad5f-15bb-4a29-a14a-9a3df3f5a40e.html
Missoula airspace restriction for unnamed 'VIP' canceled
Sogo
(6,967 posts)below the ground in Utah....Of course, the videos never say what the energy source is; you have to pay for that information and how to get in on the deal, i.e., where to invest....
Maybe they're planning on how to exploit that energy source and lock down ownership of it.
not fooled
(6,594 posts)that Krasnov is selling off?
Sogo
(6,967 posts)nt
haele
(15,045 posts)And his Palantir system is being floated as product managing a national database.
It might not just be a potential Missoula crypto currency farm they're all looking at.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)if a giant data center is in the works. The bitcoin mine is slated for Butte, MT about 90 minutes from here. There was an cryptocurrency mine that was floated for just outside Missoula but it appeared that was shut down
and now that I read your comment, maybe not.
Anything Peter Thiel and these two clowns are associated with wont be good for Montana. Thats for sure.
electric_blue68
(25,692 posts)Been meaning to say for months: as a fan of Lord of the Rings - Thiel has besmirched the name Palantir. Even if it it's (I'm a bad speller) spelled a little differently; I know what it's derived from.
haele
(15,045 posts)If he had been listened to, instead of the Wizards using a "hands off" approach, Sauron would have been conquered earlier and the progress of the Age of Men happen sooner.
Thiel never got the point of Tolkien. But he was aware enough of the pop-culture references to use it as a source of cool, otherworldly names.
What I do find ironic is that both Tolkien and Thiel/Vance converted to Catholicism, though obviously far different versions. The Franciscan with flavors of Jesuite version Tolkien followed is much different than the Opus Die/Rad-Trad version the Right Wingers follow.
The difference between Gandalf and Saruman, indeed.
electric_blue68
(25,692 posts)flamingdem
(40,783 posts)If Vance and Musk are involved for sure it's one of Thiel's scams / plans.
GoCubsGo
(34,644 posts)It's why they convinced The Orange Imbecile to name Thiel's cabana boy as his Vice President. Now that they have pilfered all of our data, and probably a crap-ton of our physical wealth, they can set up their technostate, oust The Idiot, and take over.
flamingdem
(40,783 posts)Especially the couch!
WarGamer
(18,226 posts)TommyT139
(2,136 posts)...that it's been for awhile a serious hub for pretty much the worst of these anti-human fascist techies.
Brb, off to search my tabs.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)We make fun of it here in Missoula. I used to hike the hills around it for years and years until it all got bought up.
niyad
(129,391 posts)LoisB
(12,282 posts)niyad
(129,391 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Missoulians dont think anything good can come from this. However, they chose a blue hippie college town for their shenanigans. Protest and pushback is what we do best. Missoula just declared the Pride flag an official city flag.
cilla4progress
(26,487 posts)We were just through there.
Sickening...
What's Paws Up?
Alice Kramden
(2,872 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Off topic
re was a wedding there two weekends ago
Millions were spent. Kevin Costners band (yeah he has one) played for rehearsal dinner and Darius Rucker flew in from London to play the reception. It was some hearing aid tycoon. The private jets that flew in and out were jaw dropping. I only know because my kiddo works at the airport.
https://www.pawsup.com/
cilla4progress
(26,487 posts)Thanks for the info. Weird name - Paws Up?
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Especially for those of us who love our wild bears.
bucolic_frolic
(53,872 posts)Just a hunch.
StarryNite
(11,967 posts)doc03
(38,799 posts)Xolodno
(7,295 posts)They have a love of Shakespear.
milestogo
(22,486 posts)Sounds like a doggy daycare to me.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,765 posts)milestogo
(22,486 posts)But "paws up" does sound kind of ominous.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Its a place where millionaires can feel like theyre camping. Super stupid to most of us up here.
https://www.pawsup.com/
mgardener
(2,290 posts)If Elise Stefanik is traveling there this weekend.
Those with a Republican reps should ask too!
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)I am guessing the guest list is small and very influential. Im still in the group that thinks a coup is in the works.
BurnDoubt
(1,387 posts)Whatever it is, it isn't good.
Maybe someone wants them all together there for a particular purpose??????????????
SpankMe
(3,655 posts)I really want to see some media confirmation of this.
Attilatheblond
(8,208 posts)Also, in recent decades, a LOT of western Montana has been bought up by some very wealthy people. If the tech bros plan to launch JD Vance into the WH, there's a lot of old fashioned money there to milk.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)However, the media is not asking the right people about this. I know for sure that Elon musk was here last weekend because my kiddo worked his plane when it landed. I have video of him getting on his plane that my son has sworn me to not sharing. The staff meeting at this little FBO at the Missoula airport have been training people all week on how to receive the VP and everyone has signed NDAs. My nephew is one of those employees.
GiqueCee
(3,339 posts)... the 25th Amendment has to be initiated by the Vice President. The Vice President is a self-serving weasel. Musk & company stand to benefit BIGLY by Trump's removal. The tech bros are treacherous snakes. In this equation, solve for X.
Scrivener7
(58,170 posts)in exchange for his stepping down and not have to go through the 25th.
GiqueCee
(3,339 posts)... that I see with that course of action is that granting The South End of a Northbound Yak immunity, is, yet again, letting this sonofabitch escape accountability for his mountain of crimes. It would also mean that those who enabled him will walk away scot free as well, which opens the door for others to take up where he left off, knowing that a grotesquely corrupt judiciary will give them a Get Out Of Jail Free card, too. I think we and especially the hardcore MAGAts really need to know the depth and breadth of his treachery, and his sociopathic disregard for the victims of his mendacity and greed. I want there to be NO wiggle room for him to rehabilitate his already severely tarnished image. And ultimately, letting Trump get away with it tells the country, and the world, that the law is intended to protect oligarchs, and to punish their victims when they protest. That is intolerable.
The nation has suffered irreparable harm because of him, and to let him skate this time could turn out to be a monstrous mistake. The same goes for the conservatives on the SCOTUS. As much as they may think otherwise, they are NOT above the law, either.
Scrivener7
(58,170 posts)They don't care about any of that.
You and I do, but they don't.
GiqueCee
(3,339 posts)... but many are already abandoning the GOP and their treasonous schemes. A Blue Tsunami will drown out these vile people. If anyone resorts to violence, it will be Republican scum, and our retribution will be swift and severe.
I, for one, refuse to give up, or bow down to psychotic monsters.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Maybe its a cryptocurrency scam maybe its a stupid cowboy vacation for JD and his family maybe its a data center being shoved down our throats or maybe, just maybe its what you suggest. We will know soon enough.
SunSeeker
(57,468 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)the C17s. I guess it depends on how secret this is. A 757 landing in Missoula will get attention.
Jack Valentino
(4,289 posts)the final climactic scene from that movie....
Hotler
(13,722 posts)Yuk.
Right?
Paws Up is notorious for not treating their employees well. They go through people like nothing Ive seen. I cant afford that place and wouldnt want to.
yellow dahlia
(4,350 posts)Last edited Fri Jun 6, 2025, 10:20 PM - Edit history (1)
P.S. Thank you for keeping us informed.
Looks like some coincidences being planned.
Totally Tunsie
(11,531 posts)electric_blue68
(25,692 posts)MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Ill be watching the skies
and the airport. Still trying to nail down what time Vance lands. Ill post any updates.
electric_blue68
(25,692 posts)OneGrassRoot
(23,927 posts)Of course everyone believes there is more than meets the eye, but it's on people's radar, so hopefully employees will reveal what really has happened.
They're saying it's a tech symposium. But this subreddit is discussing it; other subreddits probably are as well.
Thanks for bringing this to our attention MontanaMama!
https://www.reddit.com/r/missoula/comments/1l5ath6/ny_times_reports_musk_thiel_and_altman_were/
lonely bird
(2,727 posts)My narrow white ass.
These shitheads all think they are smarter than anyone else about every damn thing.
They are dangerous as hell.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Missoula has a very active subreddit and this squeaked by me. This explains all the comings and goings of the super wealthy last weekend. Musks jet shuttled a bunch of these folks in and out. Saquon Barkley came in on his own jet. Same with grifting pastor Kenneth Copeland.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)A palace coup to take down the disgraceful Republican draft dodger and grifter. Could this be part of that?
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)As I said above, if Vance ends up coming in on AF2, it will be noticed. The word on the street is that hes coming in on a C17 and the Homeland Security folks are coming in on a second C17.
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GP6971
(37,580 posts)Hotler
(13,722 posts)a historic summit of the American Mafia. This time justice is a member of the crime family.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apalachin_meeting
Clouds Passing
(6,875 posts)czarjak
(13,428 posts)Nothing to see here.
annielion
(85 posts)The Missoula airport closure for VIP is abruptly cancelled. I suspect this is good news.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)We dont know the details yet but this is definitely good news.
Renew Deal
(84,655 posts)So it makes sense that its now cancelled. Still, the question of why the VP and a top aide are repeatedly flying out of Missoula is a big one.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)were apparently at the Paws Up resort for some kind of tech meeting. It is never good when Peter Thiel is around. The guy is evil. We fear a data center being planned for Montana.
Renew Deal
(84,655 posts)A data center could have an environmental impact but is really uncontroversial. Vance could be getting instructions from his masters.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Headed south to Dillon, MT. There is a crypto mine slated for that area but as you said
all of this oligarch activity may tell us so much bigger is happening. Wish I knew.
https://www.kxlf.com/news/local-news/vice-president-jd-vance-reportedly-sets-down-at-butte-airport
Ponietz
(4,226 posts)malaise
(292,370 posts)Hmmmmmmmm!
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)I knew there had to be a billionaire ranch down in that area. At 94, Murdoch ought to be leaving the planet sometime soon.
Ponietz
(4,226 posts)Sadly, I think its the former.
MontanaMama
(24,609 posts)Its part of the plan for sheer chaos 24/7.