I had a friend who was upbeat and chipper and believed her attitude would bring her through. So she had the first round of chemo, and announced it was easy-peasy and nothing she couldn’t handle. Then she had her second round, and from that point on the side effects were as commonly understood, which is to say brutal.

Biden has other things than Dem infighting to worry about right now. I hope Jill keeps the tv turned off.

Right now.

Today, tonight, tomorrow, and on from there.

Joe Biden is fighting cancer now, which can be an even bigger, nastier, and more cruel adversary than Little Mister Mar-a-Lago could ever hope to be.

I will send my prayers for, and gratitude to, Joe Biden AND Jill Biden as well, for all their years of dedicated service. Together and individually. They put our country first, instead of desperately seeking ego massage.

But many were bashing her, assuming she was leaving the party for other reasons, including being against Biden. Initially, many were assuming she was jumping on the "bash Biden" bandwagon.

they had a beef with someone...so they write a book, the book deal money of course had nothing to do with it.

As I wrote in a previous reply, Karine Jean-Pierre would have had a uniquely insider view of Joe Biden, the good and the bad. If she wanted to make bank, she would have been riding on the "Biden had dementia" train.

Fox News appears to be afraid of Karine Jean-Pierre's take, as they already have two stories out smearing her. One from no other Alex Thompson, Jake Tapper's co-author of "The Original" sin. Thompson is claiming (with no sources, of course) that Jean-Pierre's staff didn't like her.

Sounds like they are trying to get out in front to discredit Karine Jean-Pierre pretty quickly............wonder why?

Why should she be held to some higher standard than everyone else that has written a book?
We don't even know what is in the book but ready to bash her for it.
I love when women tell their truths.

personally, I think the book is all about her defending and supporting Biden, not throwing him -- or the Democratic Party -- under the bus in pursuit of dollars. That's just my opinion and to be transparent, I'm a lifelong Democrat who has often and repeatedly been disappointed by party leadership. My expectations are high and I'm cut from the FDR era ideals that my parents admired and instilled in me. So my lens may be different than yours.

I suspect that Jean-Pierre rote that book because she wanted to tell the inside story of what she saw happening in Washington that led up to Biden leaving the race. It sounds like a story that needs to be told, and I think we should wait anD hear the whole story before judging her.

if she's not going to lead nor follow.

I guess my feeling was more along the lines of being grateful she isn't jumping on the "Biden was incompetent" train, as that would feed the media frenzy forever. Imagine someone as close to Biden as Karine Jean-Pierre dishing dirt on a "cover-up". And that is what many were speculating, including MAGA. The GOP was chomping at the bit, hoping for this.

Now that she is coming out in support of Biden, the media will ignore her book for the most part. It becomes boring to them. Where's the fun in a Press Secretary supporting the President she worked with?

to be the case. That is she got out of the way and led. She certainly didn’t follow

From the media reports, I couldn't tell why she was leaving.

There's a big problem in the Democratic Party right now. There should be a concerted, unified, daily pushback on Trump's policies. It's mostly silence. Crazy.

to jump on board. Just like when Democrats torched Al Franken for no reason.

Hear, hear. Keep on speaking the truth!

Of all people.
And now they are showing just how weak they have become and I guess were?
Now what’s the excuse? Biden is gone, WHERE is the democratic leadership?
We are flying blind. No push back on anything.
Don’t believe me? Go look at social media. People hate T policies, but don’t love the Democrats either.

That's it.
For over 50 years I have always voted for the Democratic nominee regardless of whether I previously liked or supported them. Every time. Democrats need to learn this without excuses and above all they need to get their asses out to vote in every election and no voting for 3rd parties. (Here in WI in '16, Jill Stein of the Green Party received more votes than Trump's margin of victory and those votes came from the Left.)

and make sure THEY couldn’t win, either.

They were so certain that she would win in Wisconsin that she didn't even make a single campaign stop in here during the general election campaign. I mean, it's not like the state was off the beaten path.
Last year at the end of the campaign, Harris was nearly living in Wisconsin, she was here so often and even Trump made numerous stops here.

I thought it may well have been the case that Jean-Pierre was supportive of Biden and stunned by the post debate Biden attacks and ultimate force-out.

Toward becoming culturally similar to the maga Repubs and indie white men (catering to white male culture) or at least TALKING and WRITING about it. . .

It might be a political calculation Black women will have to make.

will have to make eventually.

We're moving toward a fully male dominated society, pushing women back to a time when we had no power, no agency.

In the next few months - could be a massive disruptor to the midterms. IE - The talking heads and 'analyst' class would be shook with trying to put their finger on where we are. IE - Not being so much of a 'sure thing'.

What a disgrace!

So did Thom Hartmann, immediately after Claire McCaskill was the first one to publicly rebuke Joe Biden! I refuse to listen to his program or read any of his misguided BS. As far as Claire is concerned, she’s also a DINO not worth listening to.

Right after the debate ended she said something like things have to change or similar. Then Rachel asked her what she meant and Nicolle said Biden has to step down as nominee or they need a new nominee. Can't remember specifics but she was quite clear when pressed/ given the opportunity.
Between that and the amount of time Nicolle, Claire McCaskill et al have spent on either what the Dems did wrong or what the Dems should be doing, I limit my time spent watching her program.

To think I actually voted for claire, never again!

When Bernie and AOC are spreading the message, and DNC is doing who knows what, take away their shrimp cocktail and send them out with a lunchbox, maybe even on a picket line like Joe did.

I got this from Bernie in an email.

for prior assumptions I made.

She's a good human. I wish her the best.

It wasn't just Party leaders - it was also people like George Clooney whose gender, skin color and wealth insulate him from the maga Repub infliction of pain on "the others".

They threw away the party Base's pick in 2020.

With this recent talk of caving into incels - the Democratic party is now fixing to throw the base away.

My f2f discussions with other Black women and discussions on #Black Threads would get me hides at DU.

TOS is TOS - but the Black women? We're watching . . .

She stood tall for Joe Biden, calling out her own party for the leaks. She was the adult in the room.

but I have to agree with Jean-Pierre about the way some prominent members of the party treated Joe Biden. I was extremely disappointed. Joe deserved better and the Democratic party deserves better as well.

I'm glad she's not in the bash Biden crowd. I still wish she'd remained a Democrat.

I spoke to my spouse that was in Europe at the time. He asked how the debate went.
I hated saying it but I said Biden lost the election tonight.

I'm so disappointed about what happened. And what happened next. We should have run a primary and we should have started long before the debate night loss. Joe should have stepped down when primary season started. VP could have run and we could have had some actual data about who should be our next Potus. We failed that normal process and look what it got us. Absolute madness.

But I have to include this: I think Musk had far more influence in 2024 and I don't believe the totals. I don't believe trump won all of the swing states. I don't know what to think now. Nope. Very stinky results. Indeed.

And I knew it would be because of the Democratic Party's reaction (hello Senator Al Franken) as well as the media's. They were already tying every single gaffe or misspeak of Biden's to being age-related, even though Biden is widely known as a gaffe machine and has been his entire life. Once he had that bad debate, I knew it was over.

Though I assumed the Democratic party wouldn't handle it well, I wasn't expecting just how poorly they did this.

Biden had just completed multiple time zones travel and could have cancelled the debate for that night ! He could have postponed the debate when he was feeling better. We failed Joe Biden by forcing him to travel and debate within days/hours. Of course he showed up, that’s Joe.

It take me 2 weeks to recover jet lag and I’m 20 years younger than Biden.

I understand how independent voters can point and blame us Ds for doing this to Joe. The leaders of the party dropped the ball and let the whole world down. Europe loves Joe Biden. They despise 45.

It’s time the grown ups stepped up and the infirm step back.

That's what gets me. As you stated, Joe had crossed multiple time zones and was getting sick, but he felt he had to push ahead so as not to let anyone down. That's so Joe.

I knew after that bad debate that Joe must have felt that he'd let everyone down. I'm sure that tortured him more than anything. He would not have blamed his staff, he would have blamed himself.

I kept thinking of that during those days after the debate when Joe was fighting back, going on interviews with Stephanopoulos and Lester Holt, both of whom would not stop hounding Joe about the debate, confusing hard-hitting journalism with beating a dead horse to get a sound bite. He finally said, "asked and answered".

He must have felt so alone as he was fighting back. Abandoned by those who, if in a similar situation, Joe would have fought hard for them, even taking blows himself.

Joe was in France to honor D-Day from June 5-9, and was in Italy from June 12-14 for the G7 Summit. From the G7 Summit, he flew back to the US, got into Air Force 1, and flew immediately to Los Angeles for a fundraiser. That was the "infamous" summit where George Clooney was "alarmed" at Joe Biden seeming out of it. To quote George Clooney, "It’s devastating to say it, but the Joe Biden I was with three weeks ago at the fund-raiser was not the Joe big F-ing deal Biden of 2010. " Geez, no sh*t George. Clooney (or anyone) would have been comatose, but Joe Biden stood in line for 3 hours to greet everyone at the fundraiser.

6 days at Camp David for debate prep after that schedule? Not nearly enough. Not for someone 1/3 of Joe Biden's age.

Think back to 2004. GWB was absolutely terrible in the first debate. In addition, unlike Trump, Kerry was good as a debater could be articulate, accurate and honest. It was interesting that even in the after the debate spin, there message was GWB was not as good as a debater, but he was an "excellent President". They also pointed out that Kerry had been a Yale debate champ - labelling him as east coast elite, though GWB attended the same school.

I wonder if any Democrat would have conceded that while Biden occasionally shined in a debate, debates were most definitely not his strong suit. His strong suits were his compassion to all and his calm competence in managing a talented team. Meanwhile, Trump was a bombastic, confident reality TV star who could spew lies and made up arguments with ease making debating him very challenging.

"When leaders like Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Adam Schiff say your President isn't competent and should stand down..."

Just for accuracy's sake, of the three you mention, only Schiff publicly called for Biden to exit the race (and he didn't say that Joe wasn't competent).

Schumer and Pelosi privately urged the president to quit the campaign, but didn't take the additional step of going to the press to pressure him.

Of course, if your belief is that they shouldn't have asked him to quit at all, then that makes little difference to you.

Yes, Pelosi and Schumer did this privately. But there were constant leaks to the press about those private meetings. That was just a chicken shit way for Pelosi and Schumer to pressure Joe Biden to step down. I'll never forget Rep. Jasime Crockett calling out the leaks. She stood tall.

My belief is they should not have asked Joe Biden to step down the way they did. Particularly, the constant leaking. It was ugly, slimy, and petty. And, again, it didn't help Kamala either.

We forget that Joe still had several months left of his Presidency and had some important things he still wanted to get done. Joe Biden was smarter than everyone else, including those in his own party attacking him. He did as much damage control as he could, going on interviews and holding an hour-long press conference at the NATO Summit. Thus he was able to step down from a place of strength and dignity, which allowed him to hand over the reins to Kamala with grace. Biden came off as the bigger man.

Thank you Karine!!

I didn't realize she had written a book, but at least there is someone to give Tapper a reality check.

It frustrated me enormously that no one discussed how Biden was actually governing, which was strongly, competently, and most importantly now, sanely. The goal was to distract from that and put Democrats on the defensive, and it worked.

And screw the new primary. We had a primary and everyone who voted for Biden voted for Harris. Despite people like Trump making a mockery of the VP process, the whole point of a vice president is to have a competent back up. Harris was beyond competent. A new primary would have been an absolute disaster in my opinion.

And calling BS to Tapper.

I mean, Joe Biden keeps showing up and looking not a dementia patient, which is a narrative problem for anyone but our moronic media.

I can't remember who was interviewing Bill Clinton, but I remember her trying to ask the question about Joe's competency in a "gotcha" style that Bill Clinton handled marvously. He never wavered in his rejection of the whole "Biden was cognitively impaired" accusation that the media is trying to present as fact. He hasn't lost a step as far as being a great communicator.

I saw the video of Clinton praising Joe Biden and those that attacked him and run for high office won't ever get my vote. Joe was a great president.

From someone who wasn't very good at her job.....

Whatever you think her reasons are, I appreciate that someone so close to Biden is coming out in his defense. It's a breath of fresh air, it's a counter to Jake Tapper's book, and it further weakens the media narrative of a "Dem coverup".

I would think a Press Secretary doing hit piece on the President she worked for would be far more lucrative if it were only about book sales.

And in these times to come out and encourage people to leave the Dem party is ridiculous and extremely counterproductive.

Pathetic attempt to make money with that angle.

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Legit question as I haven't read the book, I've only seen her on some shows talking about why she left the party and became an Independent, same party as Bernie Sanders.

EDIT: I went out to get more information on her book and saw that she is encouraging people to vote their values and not party.

In a country obsessed with blind loyalty to a two-party democratic system, Karine Jean-Pierre, former White House press secretary to the Biden-Harris administration, shares why Americans must step beyond party lines to embrace life as Independents.

In an urgent, timely analysis, Independent urges all Americans to vote their values and maintain individuality within party lines. She presents clear arguments and provocative evidence as an insider about the importance of dismantling the torrent of disinformation and misinformation that has been rampant in recent elections and provides passionate insight for moving forward.

I do not understand why so may people are immediately ready to condemn her for writing this book. Every post about this turns into a pile on of people villifying her, and the amount of hate is very disturbing to me.

When Biden decided to leave the race, there were a ton of pile-ons here at DU, blaming Democratic Party leaders like Pelosi and Schumer for "stabbing him in the back," and trashing them to hell and back. And now that this woman who served Biden faithfully while watching the whole thing go down wants to tell the world exactly what happened, all of a sudden SHE is the bad guy? Give me a freaking break.

During the chaos, I posted that at some point books will be written about who did what and when, and some of us will be surprised/disappointed to find out who did what and when.
Well here we are, and we are attacking the messenger?

Why does everyone assume her motives are solely for "cashing in"?

When I saw the video of her giving her reasons for leaving the party, she seemed genuinely shocked and angry at the betrayal and backstabbing of Joe Biden.

Good for her.

Bill Clinton recently said Joe Biden is not mentally falling apart and his brain is still functioning well. I was disgusted at how Pelosi, and that shitty actor George Looney attacked Joe. I will never forget their attacks on Joe. Their attacks gave us felon rapist traitor Trump in the WH.

Bill Clinton didn't mince words, didn't hem and haw, he was strong and nonwavering. Love that guy.

... I guess I was wrong. I thought it was something arranged with publisher/s to announce/sell her book, with another "revelation" planned on the release. Moreover, I thought the "Independent" status was to help her appear more employable as... for example... a news-talk show host or correspondent. Silly me!

Whether or not this was self-serving, which none of us can know, would you rather it have been a hit piece? Can you imagine what the press would be doing right now?

She saw him up close after all, and she had to have been able to see the pain he went through and how he had to struggle, alone, to gain his footing. By that same token, I'm sure she also saw moments where Joe Biden showed his age. Anecdotal stories that could have been spun in the worst light. Now THAT would have been a block buster. But she didn't write that book, did she?

... to be a "hit" on President Biden. Yes, he aged. Still, I believe he and his staff had the USA under control - certainly better than the current Administration. I hope her insights are respectful, but I understand the pressure is to have a "Blockbuster" best seller.

I thought it would be released much sooner. why so late? I hope it's respectful as well.

... right before the holidays. You want to be on the Best-Seller lists for gift giving and catching those gift card users. You do have to consider competition... but that's if you're not a known quantity. I think she's a "name" and will be booked easily for promotion.

I am also not happy with how some treated President Biden

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I watched the entire interview, and one thing I took away from it is the respect and admiration that Karine Jean-Pierre has for President Joe Biden.

At around 33:00 she says that the only person she would have considered coming back to the White House for was Joe Biden. She had known him since 2009 and saw how he believed in this country, she observed how he engaged with the public and truly listened. She said, "I don't think I would have come back for anyone else but Joe Biden."

Later in the interview (around 40:45) she talks about how tough it was when Donald Trump won in 2024, but that Joe Biden was adamant that there be a peaceful transfer of power and adamant that this was the message to be relayed.

She also talked about how Joe Biden believed strongly in bringing back the Freedom of the Press when he won in 2020. (The Press sure rewarded him for that, not).

At about the 61:00, an audience member asks her about Joe Biden's decline, and she had a wonderful answer. Worth a watch.

Throughout the entire interview, she has nothing but praise for Joe Biden.

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I was really pi$$ed off, because I had voted in the Primary for Biden.
I felt like, what was the sense of having a primary when the Party Elders can just override my vote.
I don't mind removing Biden if that's what (D)'s wanted, let's just have a super-primary, on the same day, in all states, where we decide.

Right now I have no will, to vote in another Presidential primary.

She's not a backstabber. And she knows what was going on and can speak to the lies about Biden.

In times like this, however disappointing or discouraging things seem at the moment, seems to me it’s when people need to stick around. Not hide or give up and bail out.

STAY. And work to make it better.

I don't see her point of view as anything about giving up or heading for the hills. Bernie Sanders has been an Independent his entire political career.

I dunno, my opinion on this (for what it's worth, which isn't much):

1) I'm grateful that Karina Jean-Pierre's book was not a hit piece on Joe Biden and, instead, defends him at a time when the media is really trying to make the whole "Biden had dementia and the Democratic leadership tried to hide it." a theme for 2026 and 2028. If she can take the wind out of those sails, I feel that helps the Dems more than her switching to Independent hurts the Dems.

2) I honestly don't think many are going to decide their political party based on what party Karina Jean-Pierre is a part of. But I have to wait and see how balanced her view is.

3) Intriguing description of the book was: "She presents clear arguments and provocative evidence as an insider about the importance of dismantling the torrent of disinformation and misinformation that has been rampant in recent elections and provides passionate insight for moving forward."

I'm wondering if she is going to give some firsthand examples of things that were being said in the press versus reality. Now that could be good or bad, I don't know. If she does the "both parties lie" sort of approach, that gets old and is more of a lazy view.

Agree with your OP opinion. I was never impressed with KJP, but, yeah, she and others are getting tossed under the bus by Republicans and the media over this "Biden had cognitive decline" frenzy.

Hate to rant (again) but our damned supposedly "tough people" on the Dem side aren't tough. Many of us are actually averse, I would say, to even the idea of toughness. We need more aggressive people on our team. Sweetie-pies can either unlearn pseudo-saintliness and whininess or hold the jackets of the people who know how to bring the heat. That's all. You don't have to call the media the "Enemies of the People" to stand up to them and to, hate to say it, stand up for Biden, yourself, and your party.

Pete Buttigieg does a very good job of handling the press as far as quickly dismantling their argument.

But no Dem that I know of is capable of intimidating the Press the way Trump can. I partly blame the Press for this, as they are too afraid of losing access to the WH. They are sort of stuck between a rock and a hard place, I get it, but if they'd stick together instead of folding to Trump, that could change. They won't stick together, though, because it's all about competing for ratings.

We need to learn how to stand together. As long as there are factions in our party who are trying to play the power games, we are never going to beat the Republicans.

in some cases, but not being a Democrat and voting Democrat means the GOP will win forever. NO third party will get enough votes.

She's becoming an Independent, like Bernie Sanders.

I haven’t donated a dime since the election. Well I do donate to Stacy Abrams’s campaigns.

I am on the fence about my own party. I am particularly furious with Nancy Pelosi, something I never thought I would say.

No matter these discussions…..no matter these opinions…..no matter these topics.

I can't and don't disagree with her reasoning...
but I won't be leaving the Democratic party---

and even though she says that she is abandoning her party membership,
that certainly does not mean that she will not continue to vote for Democrats
from one end of the party ticket to the other---

(unless she may reside in a district where some Democratic officeholder
was one of those who stabbed our President in the back....)


Those Democratic senators who jumped on board
the "Biden must go" bandwagon, most notably Brown and Tester
both lost their re-election campaigns---

I will be so bold as to suggest that their reputations within the party would be better now,
if they had been more loyal to our President...

Regardless, I want to see Brown run again for the US Senate in Ohio,
he seems like our only chance for that seat---
Although the chance is poor, it will be better in a "blue wave" year,
which I suspect 2026 will be

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I have only voted for a Republican once in my life. That was Gerald Ford when I had an Al Gore moment and thought giving Richard Nixon a break would be “good for the country”. Dear god did I get that wrong. If Nixon had been jailed the entire history of this nation would have instantly changed for the better.

It’s all about precedent. The country got squeamish about real accountability for the powerful in ‘74 and Ford did what he was hired to do and pardoned the motherfucker. And I got squeamish too. I supported letting the son-of-a-bitch I hated with all my heart off to die well when he should have been chained to a presidential limo’s bumper and dragged through the streets of DC until there wasn’t a scrap of him left.

The Democrats totally got Biden wrong just like they got Al Franken wrong and Al Gore got fighting for the fucking future of the world wrong in Florida.

What a bunch of gutless wonders the Democrats are. But they’re the only decent people in the fight.

So, I’m with them until the very end. Because it’s the only way I can be.

Biden would have won. Harris did better than I ever believed she could, but, really she never had a chance.

You just can’t do what the Democrats did and expect to win. What a disgusting display of weakness that was.

Other than voting for Ford (as I was too young, though not by much), you describe exactly how I feel about my frustrations with the Democratic party.

I didn't fully realize Joe Biden's schedule before the debate until he mentioned his traveling beforehand. Holy Cr*p. He flew from the US to France for the D-Day honor celebrations, then was in Italy for the G7 Summit, and after the G7 Summit he flew home to the US, boarded Air Force 1, and flew immediately to LA for the infamous fundraiser that "alarmed" George Clooney so much he had to write that stupid Op-Ed. When George Clooney saw Joe Biden, he had been at the G7 Summit less than 24 hours earlier! Anyone else, including Clooney, would have begged off attending a fundraiser after that crazy schedule. But Joe Biden didn't want to disappoint, so he attended the fundraiser and stood in line for over 3 hours, greeting everyone!

And what does Joe Biden get for working his ass off for the party? A critical Op-Ed by a rich millionaire celebrity who has mansions in 3 different countries, and stabbed in the back from the Democratic leaders, of whom he'd just raised over $30 million at that fundraiser.

I won't vote for a Republican, and will continue to vote for the Democratic party, but I also won't criticize someone for shedding some sunlight on those like Pelosi who behaved so abhorrently towards a man who dedicated his life to their party.

She essentially ruined and burnt bridges with the Democratic Party shes done.

This might piss some people off - but guess what? The Democratic Party does not own anyone.
When all this was going on, including not wanting Kamala to replace him, even after Joe endorsed her- I said the same thing, I would no longer be a democrat if they pushed her out.
Of course it does not mean I support republicans. I never thought Karrine meant that either. But for some of us, it matters how we identify ourselves. I was also of the belief that she has seen a lot more than we have, her experiences seem to not matter to some folks. I know I did not like what I was hearing from Speaker Pelosi and some others, and I am an outsider, I can only imagine what Karrine has seen personally. Her choice should be respected.

If she wants to write a book and tries to explain her point of view, again, that's her business. We can reject or support her according to our own opinions of her book, but to condemn her before reading her side is, I feel, uninformed. I like Bernie Sanders, he's an Independent. He had my vote in the primary against Hillary Clinton. When he lost I supported Hillary Clinton because i felt she was the best choice in the race against Trump. I support individual candidates, not just a party. I look carefully at all I can find on any candidate before I make a decision. I choose Democratic candidates because they are the best choice. At the risk of being flamed, the infighting, the inaction from some Democratic party members, and the way the Democratic party handled Joe having to step down has kept me from rejoining the Democratic party. I financially support individual candidates, all Democratic party members. I will NEVER support a Republican, but I consider myself now more of an Independent like Bernie. I will "caucus" with the Democratic Party and when things settle down will probably rejoin the party. Sorry if this hurts someone's feelings, but I think we need to not rush to judgment, and give Karine Jean-Pierre a chance.

Cracks started in my identification as a Democrat when I saw the way they treated one of our most effective Senators, Senator Al Franken. Senator Al Franken was one of the GOP's worst enemies. He was smart, and he was fearless, and he was a great communicator. The Democratic Party didn't even allow Senator Al Franken to defend himself. Instead, they practically trampled over each other trying to be first in line for the circular firing squad.

Those cracks became massive fissures when the same Democratic leadership threw Biden under the bus. That was the final straw for me.

Who is going to believe a party when they tell you they will fight for you when they won't even fight for their own members? And especially when they won't fight a man who served his party with total dedication his entire political career, despite suffering so much loss in his own life. Not only was Joe Biden a good man, but he was one of the most effective Presidents in modern history. If the Democratic party can't rally around a Democrat like Joe Biden, then they shouldn't expect to be given a pass.

Like you, I will continue to vote for the best candidate, and right now that is the Democratic Party. But if a strong Independent like a younger Bernie Sanders came along, someone who has never wavered in his beliefs even when unpopular, I'd vote for him (or her) over an establishment Democrat in a heartbeat.

she is just looking for a reason to leave. IOW, throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

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