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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStudy finds removing school mask mandates contributed to 22,000 U.S. COVID deaths in a year
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-06-05/study-finds-that-removing-school-mask-mandates-contributed-to-22-000-u-s-covid-deaths-in-just-one-yeararchive link: https://archive.ph/dTyis
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In February 2022, about 50% of public school children, or more than 20 million pupils, were in districts with mask mandates; then, over a period of six weeks, almost all those districts rescinded their mandates. You can see how that would create a pretty substantial surge in infections.
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The Michigan State finding undermines several myths and misrepresentations about COVID spread by the right wing. These include the claim that children are virtually impervious to COVID, which has been refuted by the injury and death toll among children.
A related misrepresentation was that children cant pass on the infection to adults. In fact, because many children didnt show symptoms of the infection or had only mild, flu-like symptoms, they functioned almost like an undetected fifth column in spreading the virus to adults.
The commentary goes on to point out that one of the people who loudly promoted those myths was Jay Bhattacharya, now director of the National Institutes of Health.
Nevilledog
(54,712 posts)Biophilic
(6,402 posts)But Im fucking mad! 22,000 people. Yes, the republicans of were all going to die eventually and they are working hard at making it happen.
UTUSN
(76,936 posts)Solly Mack
(96,333 posts)MichMan
(16,628 posts)Covid deaths are still averaging around 350 per week or 18,000 per year.
SidneyR
(206 posts)And I'm still masking inside when I do have to go somewhere like a doctor's office, etc.
slightlv
(7,438 posts)vanlassie
(6,219 posts)slightlv
(7,438 posts)and has had Covid twice, despite taking remediation measures on her own for her room. Being at Stage 4 Kidney Disease, it scares the hell of out me for her.
I used to work at one the Army Warfighting colleges, and let me tell you... it's as bad there as anywhere. I'm not talking covid, I was gone just before that hit. But I have a weakened immune system, and whenever the new semester would start, several of us would come down sick like clockwork. Little kids are bad because they're into everything and everybody... but even 20 and 30 yr olds in school settings are bad.
PufPuf23
(9,708 posts)Not easily fixed at all.
ForgedCrank
(3,029 posts)a good portion of it and I didn't' see anything concrete there to substantiate the claim. The only fact that can be said with raw honesty is that it COULD have contributed. The study is based on what could also as easily be called coincidental timing. That is what difference-in-differences models are. While there is no real doubt that it could, to put a number on it and say that caused it is irresponsible and possibly very misleading.
The entire covid thing was politicized, and it is still being politicized now. This is the biggest travesty of all. In the way a virus pattern runs and the fast pace at which it changes, contributing these effects to any single action is is extremely difficult to say the least. It's no different than saying "People who took ivermectin felt better sooner because of it". None of that is based on measurable fact, it is based on assumption. This study isn't much different.
I don't mean to be contrary, but I insist on skepticism. I don't trust anyone anymore in this realm because almost all of them have lied to me in one way or another.
Orrex
(66,675 posts)A recently retired coworker with COPD used to brag that he didn't need a mask because he never gets sick.
"Dude, in the past five years you've had COVID six times and the flu twice."
Shrugs. "But other than that, I never get sick."
TnDem
(1,390 posts)In the past five years, I have been sick once and it was a stomach virus...I think I wore a mask for a week or less, because Tennessee didn't require any of that. Once everyone figured out that masks were becoming political and not useful, off they went.
I never got a covid vaccine nor did my wife and neither of us ever got covid that we know of. On a side note, I worked in a prison at the time with many older male inmates. Only one inmate died from covid and he was in his 70's, diabetic and congestive heart failure.
Orrex
(66,675 posts)Hmm... From which side of the aisle have I heard that propaganda before?
TnDem
(1,390 posts)Not being in exact lockstep and questioning everything, used to be a virtue and now it is often cursed as "propaganda".
If a mask isn't viewed as a political statement, then why would anyone care one way or another?
Orrex
(66,675 posts)I am also familiar with the concept of questioning something for actual truth, especially when it seems to have become a badge of my own party.
Orrex
(66,675 posts)And your claim of "questioning something for actual truth" echoes nearly verbatim that affected "skeptical" position maintained by Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, and their ilk.
I am manifestly not accusing you of being a Rightwing troll, but your comments resonate very strongly with the dribble that we've gotten for years from self-declared truth-seekers.
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malaise
(292,796 posts)Just before Christmas, a security guard at one place told me to remove my mask- I called for the Manager and showed them the directive from the Ministry of Health which was published three days before. The manager apologized and that was that.