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WhiskeyGrinder

(26,314 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 05:57 PM Jun 2025

Study finds removing school mask mandates contributed to 22,000 U.S. COVID deaths in a year

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2025-06-05/study-finds-that-removing-school-mask-mandates-contributed-to-22-000-u-s-covid-deaths-in-just-one-year

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A newly published study from data scientists at Michigan State University knocks one pillar out from under this claim. It finds that the abrupt removal in 2022 of mandates that children wear masks in school contributed to an estimated 21,800 COVID deaths that year — a shocking 9% of the total COVID deaths in the U.S. that year.

(snip)

In February 2022, about 50% of public school children, or more than 20 million pupils, were in districts with mask mandates; then, over a period of six weeks, almost all those districts rescinded their mandates. “You can see how that would create a pretty substantial surge in infections.”

(snip)

The Michigan State finding undermines several myths and misrepresentations about COVID spread by the right wing. These include the claim that children are virtually impervious to COVID, which has been refuted by the injury and death toll among children.

A related misrepresentation was that children can’t pass on the infection to adults. In fact, because many children didn’t show symptoms of the infection or had only mild, flu-like symptoms, they functioned almost like an undetected fifth column in spreading the virus to adults.


The commentary goes on to point out that one of the people who loudly promoted those myths was Jay Bhattacharya, now director of the National Institutes of Health.
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Study finds removing school mask mandates contributed to 22,000 U.S. COVID deaths in a year (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jun 2025 OP
Horrific. Nevilledog Jun 2025 #1
I don't know whether to be sad or angry. Biophilic Jun 2025 #2
Knr UTUSN Jun 2025 #3
... Solly Mack Jun 2025 #4
Perhaps they should be brought back MichMan Jun 2025 #5
I'm still avoiding most indoor places. SidneyR Jun 2025 #6
How in the world is this rationalized? slightlv Jun 2025 #7
Many teachers DIED. vanlassie Jun 2025 #9
Yes, my sis is a teacher, slightlv Jun 2025 #11
The medical system has been damaged by politics and money. PufPuf23 Jun 2025 #8
I read, ForgedCrank Jun 2025 #10
At the time, some here insisted that masks have no impact Orrex Jun 2025 #12
re: masks and covid TnDem Jun 2025 #13
"political and not useful" Orrex Jun 2025 #14
re: "propaganda" TnDem Jun 2025 #15
Perhaps you're familiar with the concept of the straw man? Orrex Jun 2025 #16
absolutely TnDem Jun 2025 #17
Well, you're a contrarian. Orrex Jun 2025 #18
Post removed Post removed Jun 2025 #20
I still wear a mask when I am in certain public places malaise Jun 2025 #19

Biophilic

(6,402 posts)
2. I don't know whether to be sad or angry.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jun 2025

But I’m fucking mad! 22,000 people. Yes, the republicans of “we’re all going to die eventually” and they are working hard at making it happen.

MichMan

(16,628 posts)
5. Perhaps they should be brought back
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 06:54 PM
Jun 2025

Covid deaths are still averaging around 350 per week or 18,000 per year.

SidneyR

(206 posts)
6. I'm still avoiding most indoor places.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:07 PM
Jun 2025

And I'm still masking inside when I do have to go somewhere like a doctor's office, etc.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
7. How in the world is this rationalized?
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jun 2025
children can’t pass on the infection to adults
Everyone knows when school starts, illness in families with kids in school is endemic! Kids pass on everything they come into contact with.

slightlv

(7,438 posts)
11. Yes, my sis is a teacher,
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:00 PM
Jun 2025

and has had Covid twice, despite taking remediation measures on her own for her room. Being at Stage 4 Kidney Disease, it scares the hell of out me for her.

I used to work at one the Army Warfighting colleges, and let me tell you... it's as bad there as anywhere. I'm not talking covid, I was gone just before that hit. But I have a weakened immune system, and whenever the new semester would start, several of us would come down sick like clockwork. Little kids are bad because they're into everything and everybody... but even 20 and 30 yr olds in school settings are bad.

ForgedCrank

(3,029 posts)
10. I read,
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jun 2025

a good portion of it and I didn't' see anything concrete there to substantiate the claim. The only fact that can be said with raw honesty is that it COULD have contributed. The study is based on what could also as easily be called coincidental timing. That is what difference-in-differences models are. While there is no real doubt that it could, to put a number on it and say that caused it is irresponsible and possibly very misleading.
The entire covid thing was politicized, and it is still being politicized now. This is the biggest travesty of all. In the way a virus pattern runs and the fast pace at which it changes, contributing these effects to any single action is is extremely difficult to say the least. It's no different than saying "People who took ivermectin felt better sooner because of it". None of that is based on measurable fact, it is based on assumption. This study isn't much different.
I don't mean to be contrary, but I insist on skepticism. I don't trust anyone anymore in this realm because almost all of them have lied to me in one way or another.

Orrex

(66,675 posts)
12. At the time, some here insisted that masks have no impact
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 06:03 AM
Jun 2025

A recently retired coworker with COPD used to brag that he didn't need a mask because he never gets sick.

"Dude, in the past five years you've had COVID six times and the flu twice."

Shrugs. "But other than that, I never get sick."

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
13. re: masks and covid
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 06:18 AM
Jun 2025

In the past five years, I have been sick once and it was a stomach virus...I think I wore a mask for a week or less, because Tennessee didn't require any of that. Once everyone figured out that masks were becoming political and not useful, off they went.

I never got a covid vaccine nor did my wife and neither of us ever got covid that we know of. On a side note, I worked in a prison at the time with many older male inmates. Only one inmate died from covid and he was in his 70's, diabetic and congestive heart failure.

Orrex

(66,675 posts)
14. "political and not useful"
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 06:21 AM
Jun 2025

Hmm... From which side of the aisle have I heard that propaganda before?

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
15. re: "propaganda"
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 03:53 PM
Jun 2025

Not being in exact lockstep and questioning everything, used to be a virtue and now it is often cursed as "propaganda".

If a mask isn't viewed as a political statement, then why would anyone care one way or another?

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
17. absolutely
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 04:11 PM
Jun 2025

I am also familiar with the concept of questioning something for actual truth, especially when it seems to have become a badge of my own party.

Orrex

(66,675 posts)
18. Well, you're a contrarian.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jun 2025

And your claim of "questioning something for actual truth" echoes nearly verbatim that affected "skeptical" position maintained by Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, Alex Jones, and their ilk.

I am manifestly not accusing you of being a Rightwing troll, but your comments resonate very strongly with the dribble that we've gotten for years from self-declared truth-seekers.

Response to Orrex (Reply #18)

malaise

(292,796 posts)
19. I still wear a mask when I am in certain public places
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 04:34 PM
Jun 2025

Just before Christmas, a security guard at one place told me to remove my mask- I called for the Manager and showed them the directive from the Ministry of Health which was published three days before. The manager apologized and that was that.

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