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Peacetrain

(24,279 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:34 AM Jun 2025

We are an irritated peoples and this is why we will survive this attack on our government by Trump and the Magas..

It is because of our diversity. Our DEI if you will.. Other governments can fall when a future dictator starts lying nonstop and messing with reality. It is amazing how quickly one person can take something over.

But the United States, (Canada and Australia for that matter). are countries united by an idea. Our populace does not share a common DNA factor that pulls us together, like being German or Japanese or Russian etc etc etc.

What unites us is the idea of freedom. And the fact that we are an easily irritated people. Our ancestors came to this country over Ice bridges, seas, anything and anyway to get away from where they were born. The need for freedom is in every single one of us.

We have all kinds of issues and problems with our country.. but let me tell you, it is better than anything our ancestors had to leave in order to just breathe.

We are not easily moved as a united front. They are trying for to scare us, but guess what.. even the Magas are individuals first who will not completely bow down. Oh you will get a certain amount and they will seem so scary. Remember only 10% of the German people belonged to the Nazi party.

Using that as an example, Americans, . call back to the ancestors that moved here. They are at our hearts and souls. It is not some shared DNA that unites us.. But ideas .

Trump and company are doing all they can to upset the apple cart that is our government. But they are not going to succeed because of who we are and how we are made up .

With that thought.. GOOD MORNING DU.. coffee is up and the day shines bright.

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We are an irritated peoples and this is why we will survive this attack on our government by Trump and the Magas.. (Original Post) Peacetrain Jun 2025 OP
Well said! SARose Jun 2025 #1
K & R malaise Jun 2025 #2
Peace train, what a thoughtful piece. 1WorldHope Jun 2025 #3
I sincerely wish I shared your optimism orangecrush Jun 2025 #4
We are also creative and feisty Wild blueberry Jun 2025 #5
This is one of the things that has consistently given me cause for optimism. Aristus Jun 2025 #6
Thank you Peacetrain for this post. My own analogy as to why he/they will fail is our government c-rational Jun 2025 #7
Huge National Protest June 14th -- www.nokings.org -- Find your Tribe and Show Up! OMGWTF Jun 2025 #8
As I was saying... even the MAGAs are irritated... I cannot believe the Elon/Donald slap fest Peacetrain Jun 2025 #9

1WorldHope

(1,862 posts)
3. Peace train, what a thoughtful piece.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 11:45 AM
Jun 2025

I felt calm for a moment after I read your words. It didn't take long for all the other words I've read to come seeping back in though.
It seems people are putting a lot of hope on June 14th. I'm worried about June 15th and there after. I can't believe how many people have totally closed themselves off from what is going on. They have children and thankless jobs and just can't take the time to parse out what is real and what is propaganda.
I fear we have spent too many years believing the fallacy that we are exceptional, so we don't need to worry.
I'm so tired of worrying. 😟
But, I do hope you are right and I wish I was having coffee with you right now so you have more time to convince me that we will all be okay.

Wild blueberry

(8,135 posts)
5. We are also creative and feisty
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 11:53 AM
Jun 2025

Yankee ingenuity,
I've see so many funny and creative signs are the rallies. Yes in our tiny rural part of northern Wisconsin!
This, plus solidarity and persistence will see us through this terrible time.
Thank you.

Aristus

(71,669 posts)
6. This is one of the things that has consistently given me cause for optimism.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jun 2025

We're not Weimar-era Germans. We are not born and bred to absolute, unquestioning obedience to civic authority. We're a rambunctious lot, the very embodiment of the messiness and seeming-chaos that comes with a vibrant democracy. Sooner or later, a demagogue, no matter how strong his hold on the public imagination might be, is going to go down through sheer, greedy overreach. Joseph McCarthy is probably the best example so far of this in American history.

Of course, right now in American history, the electorate has been taken over by poorly-educated bullies who are incapable of abstract thought. The word 'freedom', no matter how much they burble and blither it, is meaningless to them unless some concrete example of freedom is taken away from them. (Guns, for example; probably the only relevant example when talking about Trumpsters). Talk about civil liberty, civil rights, power to the people, checks and balances on civic authority, the rights and responsibilities of the citizen, etc, and they will tune out or just shrug. As long as they have their tractor pulls, their monster truck rallies, their Bud Lite, their NASCAR, and of course, their guns (which they will never, ever employ against real, actual, genuine tyranny), you can oppress them endlessly. They have no principles to uphold, and so make the perfect targets for power-crazed dictators.

We will see if cuts to their Medicaid will actually rouse them from their deeply uninformed slumber...

c-rational

(3,132 posts)
7. Thank you Peacetrain for this post. My own analogy as to why he/they will fail is our government
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jun 2025

was built like an old plaster on lath home - the wood lath type. They are very difficult to knock down. That does not mean the damage will be light.

Peacetrain

(24,279 posts)
9. As I was saying... even the MAGAs are irritated... I cannot believe the Elon/Donald slap fest
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jun 2025

going on right now... what in the world will it be like in the middle of the night with the two of them going at each other on their social media platforms..

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