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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaddow Blog-As Trump targets Biden with new investigation, a Republican endgame comes into focus
The overarching question is why Trump and his allies are intent on investigating his Democratic predecessor. They've already hinted at the answer.
The overarching question is why Trump and Republicans are so desperate to investigate Biden. As it happens, they've already largely answered the question:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-05T13:02:46.136Z
They think they can invalidate at least parts of Bidenâs record â specifically on pardons and executive actions. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-targets-biden-new-investigation-republican-endgame-comes-focus-rcna211131
While this didnt reflect well on the current presidents judgment, it did draw some guffaws from observers who marveled at the outlandish absurdities Trump has embraced as part of his hysterical campaign against his immediate predecessor. His latest anti-Biden move, however, was far less amusing. NBC News reported:
President Donald Trump on Wednesday directed a wide-ranging investigation into former President Joe Biden and officials in his administration, accusing his aides of using autopen signatures to cover up his cognitive decline and assert presidential power. ... The announcement Wednesday directs the White House counsel and Attorney General Pam Bondi to investigate whether anyone conspired to deceive the public about Bidens mental state and unconstitutionally exercise the authorities and responsibilities of the President.
The presidential directive to the Justice Department came roughly two weeks after Trump published an item to his social media platform in which he accused officials in the Biden White House of having committed TREASON as part of a secret plot to destroy our Country.
Biden apparently wasnt pleased with the developments, issuing a statement that described the investigation as a distraction from the Republican agenda. Let me be clear: I made the decisions during my presidency. I made the decisions about the pardons, executive orders, legislation, and proclamations. Any suggestion that I didnt is ridiculous and false, said the Delaware Democrat.....
But its against this backdrop that some of Bidens most antagonistic foes have already made their motivations clear.
Just hours before Trump signed his new anti-Biden directives, for example, Comer was quite candid during an appearance on Fox Business. If these executive orders were just done and authorized by staff, and Joe Bidens signature was forged on the autopen as some would believe, then I think the Trump administration is gonna have a pretty good standing in court to get rid of a lot of these executive orders, the Kentucky Republican told viewers.
Similarly, the Justice Departments Ed Martin, the Trump-appointed pardon attorney, declared this week that hes investigating Bidens clemency actions, which followed the incumbent presidents recent statement that hes voiding at least some of Bidens pardons because, according to Trumps conspiracy theory, Biden wasnt competent enough to sign or even understand them.
With this in mind, the endgame is coming into focus: Trump and his party want to invalidate parts of Bidens presidency, clearing the way for, among other things, new partisan investigations into those whom Biden protected, further empowering the incumbent in the process.
Will any of this work? What will the courts say? Will there be a public backlash against Republicans for focusing so much energy into investigating the past instead of preparing for the future? Will the Justice Department start indicting Democrats to satisfy the incumbent presidents political demands? Watch this space.
sinkingfeeling
(57,242 posts)the Obama and Biden administrations.
usonian
(23,589 posts)My late uncle attributed all ills to FDR.
And that was before civil rights and womens rights, which they would love to undo.
LetMyPeopleVote
(175,018 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,018 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(175,018 posts)The latest in manufactured controversies has less to do with legal victories over the Biden administration than it does with creating content for the presidents media allies.
The Real Reason Trump Has Created This Autopen Scandal newrepublic.com/article/1962... via @newrepublic.com
— News Wire - World ð Independent News Network Pro-Democracy (@democracyblue.bsky.social) 2025-06-06T14:48:42.646Z
Link to tweet
https://newrepublic.com/article/196219/trump-autopen-investigation-biden-propaganda
Though the memo did not go so far as to accuse Biden officials of using sorcery to bewitch him, it argued that they took advantage of his allegedly compromised mental state to wield presidential powers. This conspiracy marks one of the most dangerous and concerning scandals in American history, it said. The American public was purposefully shielded from discovering who wielded the executive power, all while Bidens signature was deployed across thousands of documents to effect radical policy shifts.
Trump had already signaled that his focus was on Bidens pardons of various people whom he sees as political enemies. The Pardons that Sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee of Political Thugs, and many others, are hereby declared VOID, VACANT, AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT, because of the fact that they were done by Autopen, he wrote in a post on his personal social media website in March. In other words, Joe Biden did not sign them but, more importantly, he did not know anything about them!
Conservative media outlets have written extensively about the previous administrations use of an autopen in recent months, insinuating that it was a sign of Bidens incapacity. There is no evidence that it was used to sign things against the former presidents will. Focusing on it is a throwback of sorts to the Obama years, when Obama began to use the device while traveling overseas. He first used the autopen to sign an extension of the PATRIOT Act in 2011, during a weeklong tour of Europe. In 2013, he used it while vacationing in Hawaii to sign the bill that prevented the U.S. government from going over the so-called fiscal cliff. Less notable uses also followed, such as signing routine annual proclamations......
Since Trumps particular issue with the autopen centers around pardons, its worth noting that the historical precedents for that power are much looser than for any other official act a president might undertake. The modern practice is for would-be recipients to apply to the Justice Departments Office of the Pardon Attorney, which reviews cases and makes recommendations to the president. If the application is approved, the office gives pardon recipients a formal document bearing the presidents seal and signature.
That is a modern convenience rather than an actual legal requirement, however. Trump himself has ignored or bypassed the pardon attorney and issued almost all of his pardons at his personal whim. Past presidents have also wielded the pardon power by proclamation instead of individualized certificates. They have issued mass pardons to ex-Confederate officials, to formerly polygamous Mormons, Vietnam War draft evaders, and so on without difficulty.
trump really wants to go after the Jan. 6 Committee and other persons pardoned by President Biden. trump's efforts to undo the pardons granted by President Biden will fail.

