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Mysterian

(6,177 posts)
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 07:45 AM Jun 2025

MSNBC: Democrats need to stop acting like they're holding a losing hand

But when House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y., addressed how the party will hold the Trump administration accountable for the needless intrusion of law enforcement into a congressional office, he said on CNN’s “State of the Union”: “We will make that decision in a time, place and manner of our choosing.”

With remarks like that, he might as well send a Hallmark card asking President Donald Trump politely to stop.

Comments like this are partly to blame for why many feel elected Democrats in Washington don’t have their finger on the pulse of their constituents. And if folks don’t feel it, they don’t believe it.

What we need instead is a sustained campaign-like drumbeat from the opposition. Not once a month. Not after a crisis has passed. Daily.


https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/jerry-nadler-joni-ernst-democratic-response-rcna210969

I agree with this writer, Symone D. Sanders-Townsend.
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MSNBC: Democrats need to stop acting like they're holding a losing hand (Original Post) Mysterian Jun 2025 OP
Clown Show bottomofthehill Jun 2025 #1
She supported and worked on Biden's primary campaign in 2020. Self Esteem Jun 2025 #2
You are correct, I removed the S from runs. bottomofthehill Jun 2025 #7
Ignore the message, shoot the messenger? Bobstandard Jun 2025 #10
"Suicide runs" Mysterian Jun 2025 #4
Ah so she's the clown show. BannonsLiver Jun 2025 #6
Go after the non-voters, not the racist, sexist valleyrogue Jun 2025 #3
In order to do that, leadership needs to speak out strongly against clear violations of constitutional rights Mysterian Jun 2025 #5
The dnc sends out a taco truck instead of an effective solution Clouds Passing Jun 2025 #8
Really? This is coming from MSNBC... rightwing media. ananda Jun 2025 #9
You work with the tools you have Bobstandard Jun 2025 #11
Even when the tool is mostly a blowtorch to the statue of liberty ananda Jun 2025 #14
Damn all doubtcasters. MSNBC is among corporate media who've HAD people SAY that Dems hold a losing hand, ancianita Jun 2025 #12
I agree with this happy feet Jun 2025 #13

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
1. Clown Show
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:18 AM
Jun 2025

Last edited Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:20 AM - Edit history (1)

She helped fracture the party with Bernie’s suicide run for President and now helps with these gems of advice.

What is the remedy… what would you have Leader Jefferies do, stand outside with Reverend Barber …. That does a whole lot.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
2. She supported and worked on Biden's primary campaign in 2020.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:39 AM
Jun 2025

She did not support both Sanders' election runs like your post wrongly implies.

bottomofthehill

(9,332 posts)
7. You are correct, I removed the S from runs.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jun 2025

She supported his suicide run that helped to fracture the party.

Bobstandard

(2,185 posts)
10. Ignore the message, shoot the messenger?
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 10:41 AM
Jun 2025

Be mindful of the past. Live in the moment. Be hopeful for the future.

valleyrogue

(2,593 posts)
3. Go after the non-voters, not the racist, sexist
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:44 AM
Jun 2025

assholes who make up the debased "base" of the GOP. They are completely and totally lost.

Mysterian

(6,177 posts)
5. In order to do that, leadership needs to speak out strongly against clear violations of constitutional rights
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 08:48 AM
Jun 2025

and make it perfectly clear, in no uncertain terms, that anyone willfully violating another's rights will be held accountable when the rule of law is re-established in this country. Jeffries' wishy-washy response is not the type of answer to motivate non-voters to get off their asses to the polls.

ananda

(34,453 posts)
9. Really? This is coming from MSNBC... rightwing media.
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jun 2025

Of course, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

Bobstandard

(2,185 posts)
11. You work with the tools you have
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 10:46 AM
Jun 2025

That works a lot better than torching them. A short Levi’s better than none at all I think Archimedes would agree.

ancianita

(42,907 posts)
12. Damn all doubtcasters. MSNBC is among corporate media who've HAD people SAY that Dems hold a losing hand,
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jun 2025

Its copy-cat use of the felon's phrasing about Ukraine is the tell! Why would any real human Democrat would ever use that lingo.

MSNBC is among corporate media who have underreported and ignored the party's
-- successful movement work of Indivisibles and College Democrats in all 50 states,
-- its congressional investigations, and
-- Cory Booker's history making speech until he was already 8 hours into it.

To this very day, now that Comcast has sold off MSNBC to drift into the broadcast current, its producers produce the same messaging as before, only with different show lineups.

And now -- not surprising to Democrats who've paid attention beyond Scarborough over the years -- MSNBC has a whole lineup of DOUBTCASTERS who undermine Democrats and the Democratic Party.

Democrats DO have their finger on the pulse of their constituents. AND on the pulse of republican constituents.

It's MSNBC and corporate media who refuse to report on Democratic Party activities inside or beyond the beltway.
It's MSNBC and corporate media who then turn around and COVER their underreporting of the MINORITY party -- the Democratic Party -- that it's ALL THE PARTY'S FAULT. BULLSHIT.
They did this before in all previous general elections -- with Obama, then Biden -- when corporate media created the "problem" narrative about Democrats -- that "Democrats have a messaging problem."

Now the new "problem" narrative is outright right wing: "Democrats hold a losing hand." Fuck that.

Do not believe the corporate hype.
Do not believe the F'n corporate media's right wing narrative.

DO Believe the national polls and the party's work.

If Symone D Sanders actually said or wrote this

What we need instead is a sustained campaign-like drumbeat from the opposition. Not once a month. Not after a crisis has passed. Daily.


then it is SHE, in lockstep with her corporate employers, who should know Democrats' activities better. It is she and her corporate producers who are purposely out of touch with the Democrats' daily fights.

It is Sanders herself who's fallen for the corporate hype, UNLIKE Maddow or O'Donnell.

This hype deserves a variation on MLK's saying:
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than
a) sincere ignorance of Democratic Party analysis, and
b) the conscientious stupidity of corporate and republican party fascism."

Damn all doubtcasters.


happy feet

(1,259 posts)
13. I agree with this
Thu Jun 5, 2025, 11:35 AM
Jun 2025

"...What we need instead is a sustained campaign-like drumbeat from the opposition." I disagree with her rejection of crisis mgmt....must do both.

Does anyone know a natural coordinating spot/org for Democratic drumbeat messaging? Is it the DNC or DCCC (except they focus on elections)....

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