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Aviation Pro

(15,241 posts)
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 08:19 AM Jun 2025

How ironic

The United States, during President Obama's administration, did not tell Pakistan in advance about the raid on fish food UBL's compound.

How things have changed when Ukraine didn't tell the Motherfucker Krasnov shit show of an administration in advance about the attack on Rooty-Tooty DeadManWalking Pooty's strategic bomber fleet.

A big fuck you to Krasnov.

Let's go TACO! Clap, clap, clapclapclap.

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madaboutharry

(42,027 posts)
1. This is the sad part:
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jun 2025

Zelenskyy didn't tell the U.S. about it because the Ukrainians feared that had they, Trump would have called Putin and warned him in advance. We have to let that sink in. Zelenskyy had good reason to fear being betrayed by the United States.

It is so sickening that it hurts on a physical level.

Ocelot II

(129,042 posts)
4. Yes. And the other NATO countries that had to have cooperated
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jun 2025

didn't tell the US either; the only way to get to the Olenya airbase near Murmansk would have been through Finland or possibly Norway. And it's tragic that our NATO allies had to keep that information from Trump.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
6. Not the only way, merely the closest. Once a truck is inside Russia it can drive forever. . . nt
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:10 AM
Jun 2025

Ocelot II

(129,042 posts)
7. True, but it's an enormous amount of territory to cover, almost 2,000 miles,
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:18 AM
Jun 2025

if they crossed the border into Russia and drove all the way north - the risk of discovery would probably be considerable. Going through Poland instead, then by ship to Finland and into Russia from there, seems a lot safer. But then, Zelenskyy obviously knew what he was doing and I don't.

EYESORE 9001

(29,450 posts)
2. Seems to me that setting a TACO trap would be simple
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jun 2025

Feed the orange menace some disinformation, which ends up in poot’s ear toot sweet. Once military movement based on bullshit commences, ya got the fucker dead to rights.

mopinko

(73,312 posts)
3. a blue dye test.
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jun 2025

so called after how plumbers find leaks, tho at least in chgo, they use green dye. which they use to dye the river on st pat’s day.

Wounded Bear

(63,833 posts)
5. Operation Mincemeat...
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jun 2025
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mincemeat

Operation Mincemeat was a successful British deception operation of the Second World War to disguise the 1943 Allied invasion of Sicily. Two members of British intelligence obtained the body of Glyndwr Michael, a tramp who died from eating rat poison, dressed him as an officer of the Royal Marines and placed personal items on him identifying him as the fictitious Captain (Acting Major) William Martin. Correspondence between two British generals that suggested that the Allies planned to invade Greece and Sardinia, with Sicily as merely the target of a feint, was also placed on the body.

Part of the wider Operation Barclay, Mincemeat was based on the 1939 Trout memo, written by Rear Admiral John Godfrey, the director of the Naval Intelligence Division, and his personal assistant, Lieutenant Commander Ian Fleming. With the approval of the British prime minister, Winston Churchill, and the American military commander in the Mediterranean, General Dwight D. Eisenhower, the plan began by transporting the body to the southern coast of Spain by submarine and releasing it close to shore, where it was picked up the following morning by a Spanish fisherman. The nominally neutral Spanish government shared copies of the documents with the Abwehr, the German military intelligence organisation, before returning the originals to the British. Forensic examination showed they had been read and Ultra decrypts of German messages showed that the Germans fell for the ruse. German reinforcements were shifted to Greece and Sardinia before and during the invasion of Sicily; Sicily received none.


One of the best intelligence operations of WWII.

kentuck

(115,101 posts)
8. And Putin is really going to be mad at him when....
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:22 AM
Jun 2025

...the Senate votes to put sanctions back on Russia and Donald was unable to stop it. It will show the Russians that he is not the strong leader they were led to believe.

Trueblue Texan

(4,186 posts)
9. The Russians surely never believed TSF to be a strong leader...
Tue Jun 3, 2025, 10:44 AM
Jun 2025

...That's why they chose him. He does what he was hired to do: destroy the US, with Putie's permission to have a grand old time doing it.

Wounded Bear

(63,833 posts)
10. Putin certainly does NOT want the US to have strong leadership...
Wed Jun 4, 2025, 02:25 PM
Jun 2025

When the US is well led, Putin has stronger opposition.

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