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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoni Ernst revealed how much the GOP congress hates Americans
and sees us as suckers, losers, useless eaters.
They view us with disdain and disgust.
We deserve nothing. They want us to just hand over our tax dollars and shut the hell up.
We are going to die anyway. Why provide healthcare, education, science, prevention, treatment.
Joni Ernst is entitled, privileged with excellent salary, bribes, insider trading, pension, lifetime healthcare.
And she wants Americans to have none of what she has. She just wants us to pay for her life
of luxury.
JustAnotherGen
(38,015 posts)The maga Repub voters in Iowa consider it a feature and not a bug. They are 100% onboard.
Every word and vote this little asshole says or makes is ON THEM.
THEY are doing this to us. Not Trump, Musk, Thiel, the maga Pub Senators or Reps - they are. It's them.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)And it is now an ugly sight to behold.
JustAnotherGen
(38,015 posts)For these "I didn't vote for THIS" crowd.
You did. You had a heads up from Rick Scott a few years ago. Project 2025 and Agenda 47'clearly stated all of this would happen.
It's on them. All of it. Cruelty and Insanity when you could have had Joy, Abundance, and Sanity.
Old African American Proverb: A hard head makes for a soft bottom.
PJMcK
(25,027 posts)A thick skull makes fora a sorry ass.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)We saw it on TV. His rape trial, Stormy trial, all the stolen top secret documents, the insurrection he led.
They voted for him for this reason. They wanted him to destroy the people they hate.
Pregnant women, POC, LGBT, non Christians, immigrants, foreigners.
They didn't think he would go after the MAGAs too.
Ol Janx Spirit
(994 posts)...they were okay with that. It has a doomsday cult feel to it: there are things they "know" that we don't, and they are willing to die--or at least suffer--to bring about whatever they see as the endgame.
calimary
(89,821 posts)Just leaves more for the rest of us.
JustAnotherGen
(38,015 posts)I know some DUers find that cruel and authoritarian adjacent . . . but seriously.
These folks signed up for it.
mdbl
(8,583 posts)But the ignorant American voter never disappoints.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)The actual crimes or the trials.
The billionaires are thrilled because they want someone lawless who will help
them commit crimes against the American people.
The MAGAs are thrilled because they want someone who hates and will destroy all the people they hate.
MadameButterfly
(3,991 posts)Some of them are so angry and cynical that they have no hope, want to make others hurt like they do.- If they are going down, they'll take the rest of us with them. Or at least they'll establish that there are people lower than they are, who they can blame instead of themselves. Like the poor Whites who supported slavery back when. It's not OK to think this way, but when the widening income gap destroys hope it creates desparate people. Like Weimar Germany after WWI.
Some really didn't know what he was going to do. They aren't policy wonks. They don't read between the lines. They're stuck with the beliefs they grew up with, exxacerbated by the Fox bubble. They believe him when he says he won't touch medicaid and Social Security. They think the immigration problem is only rapists and murderers and he'll only be deporting bad guys. Those of us who are paying attention think they should know, but they don't. They are maddeningly ignorant, but not themselves cruel.
But to some degree this is on us. Dems ever moving to the middle. We label universal healthcare as unaffordable and radical, we don't stop hedge funds from buying up the housing stock, and we take the Hispanic vote for granted because we think they'll be logical while the Right funds Spanish speaking radio stations spewing lies.
I'm as mad at Trump voters as anyone, but I'm also mad that Democrats have not created the contrast necessary to keep our voters.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)They have known all along Trump is a criminal.
As I keep saying his crimes and trials were televised.
I think they pretend to be stupid, naive, ignorant.
When they know full well they love that he is a criminal.
They want him to destroy their enemies.
And make the MAGAs rich with his crime.
B.See
(8,320 posts)and it's WHY they voted for it, and still, largely support it.
Don't try to rationalize this mentality. I spent years going around and around with this sort.
They are filled with venom and hate over TRUMPed up fears and VICTIMHOOD. And they're fine with suffering, so long as they think someone else is suffering more.
Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose a single supporter. What he didn't say is, INCLUDING ONE OF THEM.
Because they are a CULT. And Trump knows this.
MadameButterfly
(3,991 posts)who is MAGA is gentle and kind and really just doesn't connect the dots. He is listening to the wrong people. When I make my case he clearly just doesn't know what I'm talking about. He makes illogical leaps, repeats misinformation. I don't know who he's listening to but it isn't Rachel Maddow.
Yes there are MAGAs who don't care if Trump is a criminal. Though I'd wager they are convinced Biden is a criminal too. That's the reason for the big lie, so Trump can be a criminal and it seems justified.
Yes there are people ok with a dictatorship. They don't understand the ramifications. They actually think that things will work better.
I still think the people who actually want the cruelty are a minority of Trump voters. Too many, but not half the country.
B.See
(8,320 posts)I'd respectfully disagree.
Because, for starters, I don't see much difference between those who 'actually want' the cruelty and those who abide by it.
And MOST of them support Trump still, in spite of all he's done, said, and WANTS to do.
Or maybe I've seen too many polls, studies, and statistics like how 70 percent of Republicans think President Biden 'stole the election' and how 70 percent of them sympathize with the Capitol Insurrectionists, how the majority of them favour mass deportations, and how as many as one third of them even support violence as a means of assuming political control.
Nor am I inclined to excuse denialism, the rejection of uncomfortable truths and facts, and willfully deliberate ignorance.
Trump and his MAGA party were and ARE quite CLEAR as to their words, their messages, their demonizations, their rhetoric, their hate, and their intent.
In my book, people who choose to look away, while their leadership engages in hate, CRUELTY, discord, and inhumanity,
those who don't WANT to know, are equally guilty.
And with the choices clear and the danger imminent, I'm not inclined to cut the 'undecideds' the uninformed, or the willfully OBLIVIOUS, any slack.
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)"You stupid proles need to shut up, get back to work, pay us your taxes, and then die." - G.O.P., Inc.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)She was hostile, insulting and condescending.
Emile
(41,997 posts)we're all gonna die anyways.
And people vote for her. .
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)They are sure the GOP leaders will save the MAGAs.
ha, what fools they are.
aocommunalpunch
(4,577 posts)We dont count. These ghouls want slaves again. Been fighting for it since 1865.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)And the billionaires are hoping to replace humans with robots and AI.
So they don't need humans at all.
vapor2
(4,387 posts)Read NEXUS by Yuval Noah Harari
boonecreek
(1,488 posts)The voters of Iowa replaced him with the pig castrator.
MadameButterfly
(3,991 posts)How Iowa has changed. This is the problem in a nutsehll. What happened to the people of Iowa?
Wednesdays
(22,435 posts)MadameButterfly
(3,991 posts)Glaisne
(639 posts)morons keep voting for these corrupt and contemptible people. Its insane.
JT45242
(4,013 posts)They spent unheard of at the time amounts of cash to buy this senate seat from Iowa.
She was given the counterpoint slot to the state of the union to contrast that "evil black Muslim man" with a "pure wholesome, white, mother, veteran" within two years of being in the Senate.
She has switched her allegiance to the Magat wing but she has always been a puppet for the real power behind the rethugs... billionaire donors who pull all the strings.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Bought and paid for by greedy billionaires.
Baitball Blogger
(52,229 posts)Often, my impression is that they were raised in families where the parents kicked their kids to the curb as soon as they could. I can see how they were raised in a household where the parents mentally abused their kids, criticizing them for their shortcomings and showing no support for interests or hobbies that couldn't pay for themselves. "Yeah, but can you make a living with that?" That sort of thing.
One of the survival mechanism in this pressure cooker is to redirect the ire at another target. If they can get their parents to denigrate the younger brother or sister for example, it takes the heat off of them.
That's how I see right-wing families.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Everything has been handed to them with no work or effort.
They feel entitled and privileged.
They demand others take care of them at all times.
And get angry when they get pushback.
mnmoderatedem
(3,906 posts)republicans were so concerned about the American public when they harped on "death panels" when opposing Obamacare!
Gum Logger
(390 posts)The GOP was the death panel.
Miss direction
Blame to the opponent what you are.
The Repukes are the masters of social engineering
calimary
(89,821 posts)NOT EVER. Death is a WAY powerful trigger word.
dalton99a
(93,833 posts)Republican Senator Accused of Fling With Sexting-Mad General
Josh Fiallo
Tue, March 4, 2025 at 12:02 PM CST
Sen. Joni Ernst was accused Tuesday of having relationships with two military officials one of them an Air Force general demoted after being busted sexting women on Capitol Hill.
Ernst, a 54-year-old Republican from Iowa, was named as one of the retired Maj. Gen. Christopher Finertys conquests in a ProPublica report, which cited two sources familiar with a military probe into his conduct.
Word of Finertys promiscuity first emerged in January when a 2023 report by the Air Forces inspector general became public. The report found Finerty had violated military law by having sexual, inappropriate, or unprofessional relationships with multiple women on Capitol Hill. He was demoted and ultimately retired in November.
The report circulated in the press but the names of Finertys alleged lovers were redacted.
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Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)And with a sexually out of control general.
So we know Ernst has bad judgment and likes disreputable people.
Like herself.
I wonder if she is drinking and doing drugs.
Her recent behavior is so very odd and hostile.
Blue Full Moon
(3,402 posts)It was found that most workers don't live to retire. The reason was low wages and lack of healthcare. So what did Portman and the GOP do? They lowered the payments going into retirement accounts because those people were going to die anyway. They know that more money for workers increases their lives and improves their quality of life and that it doesn't increase rich peoples lives or their quality of life.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)No healthcare in old age, no retirement/pension payments.
All goes right into the pockets of the rich and powerful.
Kid Berwyn
(24,167 posts)Every word.
Hotler
(13,747 posts)the repug voters and spews out through the GOP.
kentuck
(115,376 posts)Too long in Washington.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)They all seem to be ruthless sociopaths.
Basically telling their constituents to die and go to hell.
And shut up.
Wednesdays
(22,435 posts)Because it costs them nothing monetarily.
BumRushDaShow
(168,866 posts)the sinister "coldness with a smile" in her infamous "castrating hogs" ad, was telling.
People are simply "livestock".
She's a psychopath.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Like Kristi Noem, sociopaths.
thought crime
(1,485 posts)These four words completely and accurately describe the Republican Party's and Corporate America's relationship to everyday people. Unfortunately, many Americans have adjusted their expectations and play the roll like cattle headed to slaughter; completely oblivious and accepting of their fate.
BumRushDaShow
(168,866 posts)
(from the New Yorker 2016 - interview with the artist - https://www.cjr.org/q_and_a/new_yorker_cartoonist_trump.php)
milestogo
(22,995 posts)someone like Joni Ernst comes along and proves me totally wrong.
Karasu
(2,003 posts)subject of health care a human being can possibly have. The GOP deserves to have this hung around their necks for as long as they continue to fucking exist.
Obviously "when" and "how" we die don't fucking matter to them, because without health care, people die of 100% preventable shit--no thanks to the insanity of her party and its policies. You know, the whole fucking point of fucking health care. To keep people from dying of preventable shit.
I'm really not sure they want to play this game, because if when and how we die don't matter, then what the fuck is the problem with abortion? Or even Luigi Mangione, for that matter? After all, we're all going to die anyway, so all he did was accelerate the process for Brian the same way health insurance companies do for people everyday.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)No need for medical care that way.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Even if it is illegal in their states. They have the money and privilege to get whatever they want.
Same with vaccines and masks. Their children all go to private schools and were wearing masks and
then vaxxed when the vaccines came out. Probably got them first before the rest of America.
Abortion, masks, vaccines are just red meat for the base.
But they will not tolerate regular people killing the elite, the powerful and wealthy.
They will get the best in healthcare.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)She is going to die anyway.
I guarantee she will make a snarky, insulting response.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(16,200 posts)was much, much worse and it comes across to me as a giant FUCK YOU Americans..............
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Her hatred and loathing of her constituents are evident.
It is such appalling bad judgment I wonder if she is using drugs or drinking.
On top of being a nasty piece of work.
colorado_ufo
(6,239 posts)Cold, cold, cold heart.
Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Hassler
(4,900 posts)elocs
(24,486 posts)Irish_Dem
(80,962 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,746 posts)Crunchy Frog
(28,243 posts)I don't really understand why.
OMGWTF
(5,093 posts)These hypocritical, disingenuous God-botherers are so fking loathsome and tiresome.
Skittles
(171,277 posts)to address the fears of her own constituents in such an cavalier, noncaring way - very character-defining
Tribetime
(7,143 posts)Figarosmom
(11,553 posts)They don't want others that they deem of no value to have what they have. They also want us to hurt. The cruelty is the point.
elocs
(24,486 posts)keeping them in office. Go figure.