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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTwo new Atlas Intel polls out today - one great, one meh
Hard to see how they both can be correct, but if they are, I'm fine with it. If we are that far ahead in the Congressional vote, we can pickup 40 seats. Trump's approval is irrelevant, he can't run again.
2026 Generic Congressional Vote: Democrats 51, Republicans 42
President Trump Job Approval: Approve 45, Disapprove 54
Link: (at the top)
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)So great news! I also wonder how much of the Senste we can pick up. With enough of a lead, maybe a veto proof majority isn't a pipe dream.
Polybius
(21,505 posts)They have a much easier path. Right now, they control the Senate 53-47. At maximum, we can pick up three, possibly four in a Blue Wave. We would need to pick up a staggering 20 seats to get to the 67 needed for veto-proof.
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)I'm guessing? (Obviously it doesn't reflect as cleanly for the senate races as the house races, but I imagine there would have to be far more of a galvanized opposition than for the house)
Polybius
(21,505 posts)They would have to lose 20 out of 22, and we'd have to win every one of ours. We would have to win in places like AL, MS, OK, TN, TX, WV, and WY. To put it mildly, yikes!
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)Like if the midterms are all about crushing rhe oligarchy, I see us getting close. But it will be tough!
Meadowoak
(6,605 posts)I suspect a lot of trumpers will turn on the Trump party.
Polybius
(21,505 posts)But not in AL, MS, OK, TN, WV, or WY. Us winning in those states would be like a Republican winning in CA or HI. Even with an unpopular President, Steve Garvey still lost by 20 in Cali.
Meadowoak
(6,605 posts)Numbers of people relying on SNAP and Medicaid. When those programs are gone, and there's only one party to blame, I predict a major shift back to the democrats.
Thunderbeast
(3,770 posts)The rest will not be afraid of Medicaid cuts.
Meadowoak
(6,605 posts)IN, VA, NC, lots of red states with Medicaid expansion.
uponit7771
(93,491 posts)... us economic system.
Polybius
(21,505 posts)Trust me, I was arguing with people who said Harris would win by 20 and get 400 EV's. We're not picking up Senate seats in AL, MS, OK, TN, WV, or WY. Some of those they will win by 30 points (WV and WY).
Now TX, may be possible to pick up if Ken Paxton gets the Republican nomination and we run a really strong candidate. For now though, let's focus on where we can definitely pick up, such as ME, NC. Feel free to bookmark, I'll be the first to apologize if I'm wrong.
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)I definitely think that it is impossible without the right message. So far the last time we ever had "the right message" was when Obama ran in 2008. We got close then. We would get closer this time.
Polybius
(21,505 posts)Nothing against the good people who live there, but Trump got 70% of the vote in WV, and 72% in WY. That's a staggering amount of people to convince. It's sad, actually.
jimmy the one
(2,777 posts)West Virginia plus Wyoming have about 2.5 million residents, while California has 39.5 million.
California has 16 times more residents.
West Virginia gets 2 senators, Wyoming 2, California 2.
In the senate 4 red senators vs 2 blue senators.
Senators should be allocated on a 2 3 or 4 basis depending on population.
Fat chance jimmy.
The senate will likely be red the next 20 years.
Meadowoak
(6,605 posts)More people stayed home than voted for either candidate.
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)...personally
Meadowoak
(6,605 posts)SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)She lost by a sliver. Her being black was not the reason..
WarGamer
(18,248 posts)Look at 24.
"Democracy" and "Oligarchy" and "Felon" were soundly rejected because people were pissed off about the cost of living.
Run ALL campaigns on making life easier for working class people.
People DONT GIVE A SHIT about issues that float around a University Faculty Break Room.
They vote on their checkbook and shit they see on TikTok.
uponit7771
(93,491 posts)This should be an OP !!!
The Real Wage Index is still going the wrong way and I don't see it getting better by years end.
We're have lower rate of inflation but people voted for DEFLATION or increase in salaries, no way MAGA is supporting that.
So we have another chance to focus a strong economic message.
Making the rich pay their fair share could be one of them.
SSJVegeta
(2,272 posts)uponit7771
(93,491 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(22,526 posts)I, for one, hope he dies before he gets that chance.
Polybius
(21,505 posts)The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
Since he's "constitutionally ineligible" to run for President, he can't run for VP.
obamanut2012
(29,164 posts)Sympthsical
(10,846 posts)They've been consistently bang on with things. I remember the morning of election day 2024, I looked at their final polls and immediately got a sinking feeling.
Their read seems to be about where we are right now. Well-positioned for 2026, but that "Regretful Trump Voter" is not really a thing.
He's doing what he told them he would. Unless their ass is the one getting kicked by it, they don't care.
fujiyamasan
(1,219 posts)Thats the first set of 26 polls Id seen. Obviously its still really early.
I used to live in Michigan and it looks like Detroit mayor Mike Duggan may be playing spoiler here. Wonder if some big republican donors are getting him to run to throw this to James (who has lost two or three senate races by fairly slim margins).
Maybe Pete B should throw his hat in the ring for the senate primary. It could provide a better springboard if he wants to run for president again. Right now, his resume is sorta thin. Hes an effective communicator but I want to see him win a statewide seat to consider him viable for higher office.
I notice Hochul and Stefanik are competitive for the NY governors race. Shell need to open a bigger lead otherwise dems will be forced to spend on a race, that could go toward other races.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)have very little credibility in them.