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This reminds me so much of the late 50s early 60s when the Supreme Court ordered the desegregation of schools. I don’t think that hatred has ever died down. It was left over from the Civil War anyway.

when the GOP establishment discovered racism was the perfect tool for breaking up the Democratic, solid south. Ironically, the same Republicans LBJ enlisted to pass the Civil Rights Act when the southern wing of his party revolted. I doubt those Republicans were thinking that far ahead but that's how it played out.

Nor can they speak from a place of sound emotion.

These are all things that liberals can do easily and naturally

Others like: people of different gender, liberals, the poor, the educated, those of different ethnicity.
It's so clear to them that they must destroy us to fix what's wrong with themselves. I too wake up everyday
single day to this moral cluster**** and now understand how easy it is to manipulate the stupid and
ethically challenged. It is both a privilege and burden to possess this knowledge.

Especially when they go to church on Sunday and their kids sing about how "Jesus loves the little children, all the children of the world." These same people turn around and say that the Beatitudes, the very same words that Jesus himself preached, are "for sissies". Something is fundamentally wrong here.

This hatred goes back to Calvinist theology of predestination and the "elect" that evangelicals supposedly reject. But really don't. For decades they've rolled with a lighter version of Calvin and Knox that they'd never admit to publicly. Until now. Today they admit to it. Not a revelation for some of us. We've known who they were all along.

I am Orthodox today. I was Episcopalian, and they do a pretty good job of living the Beatitudes too, but the nearest bunch are kinda Frozen Chozen, and the Greeks, among whom I find myself today, do a bangup job of living the Beatitudes.

The Repukes make for a big social Darwinist tent. It seems to be the only thing they have in common looking down their noses at other people

Matthew 7:21-23 (KJV)

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in Heaven.

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

‘Nuf said…

This could not be more clear, they value only the piece of shit and nothing but the piece of shit.

They do value their families. They do not realize the long term detrimental effects of their policies.

They do value justice. However it has gotten a bit warped towards authoritarianism. This is especially true for maga who add in an unhealthy dose of racism.

They do love their country in reflexive unthinking form of patriotism. It leads them to authoritarianism because that offers simple solutions (wrong solutions) to complex problems.

All-or-nothing thinking leads to nowhere good.

Um, excuse me, but how is voting for someone found guilty of 34 felonies valuing justice? How is voting for somebody found guilty of sexual assault in a New York Court valuing justice? How is voting for someone who had to shell out millions to settle his fraudulent Trump University scam valuing justice?? Then there’s the children’s charity scam, housing discrimination against African-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5 who were exonerated, etc., etc. They voted for this person. Valuing justice demanded a different response.

No one is disputing that they value their own families. It’s just whether they value the families of those getting deported that comes into question.

We agree: Convicted felons have no place in the Oval Office.

But maga are Right Wing Authoritarian Followers. Their sense of justice first and foremost simplified, because 1) Simple solutions appeal to them more even if they are wrong because they don't have the patience (and too often not enough intelligence). 2) They are RWAF for the reasons in point 1 and the result is that they feel just should be tilted towards themselves, that the leader is not often wrong, and Judges are stupid because they follow complex reasoning and not simple "common sense". Racism also warps their search towards simpler solutions when combined with their lack of empathy.

And yes, on families, it is always their families, not the families of the wider community because they don't have the empathy or the broader more enlightened understanding that enables progressives and Democrats to care about wider communities.

and I get that you are trying to see things from their vantage point, but if injustice is commonly defined as "a lack of fairness or justice, meaning a situation or action where people are not treated equally or where rights are violated" then it is injustice they are valuing. not justice. When they have no problem voting for a racist who said of Haitian-Americans, "They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats", then it's racism they are valuing, not "treating others equally and honoring their rights", aka justice.

They have read the Bible and know that bearing false witness is a sin, so when TCF is convicted 34 times of essentially lying by falsifying business records they know that essentially amounts to bearing false witness. I would think they would agree with the cadet honor code, which states that, "A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do". Applying a Trump exception to that code, shows a departure from any common sensical sense of right and wrong, in favor of a cult leader they look up to because they so love his resentment/hatred of the marginalized, so much so that they are willing to overlook the harm he has caused. As a result, they can just apply a Trump exception to any such honor codes, and by doing so they turn toward injustice, not justice.

Housing discrimination in the 1970's against African'-Americans, calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5, cheating people (Trump University scam and Trump University scam), sexually assaulting E. Jean Carroll are and then defaming her are all examples of injustice, which MAGAs give TCF a pass on, thereby turning themselves towards injustice, not justice. If "valuing justice" gets so loosely defined to include disregarding injustice and to use your words, "tilt[ing] just towards themselves" then mob figures and many criminals and rapists "value justice".

they're basic cowards.

There was a good diary on here yesterday about this, but I can't find it to provide the link.

day. Try to be tougher, but it's not who we are. They definitely are tougher.

... starts off with a divide between people who have empathy and people who don't. "Woke" doesn't just mean recognizing all the various systemic bigotries in our society; it means caring about the victims.

which is often repeated by those idiots. They want others to suffer. Cruelty is the point. They aren't interested in anything productive or useful. They want to inflict pain and punishment on anyone they don't like,

You said pretty much what I was thinking.
Their moral decrepitude has consumed them .
This hatred has always been here, it has just become mainstream and acceptable within their culture and religion.

They have written this down !
They really believe that they are superior because of their childish beliefs.
Here is the link to the "statement" - It will explain everything they still want to do.
https://www.statementonchristiannationalism.com/

I live in a very red part of Texas and I am quite versed in what they are capable of. But there are times when they stun even me, and I don't know how else to phrase my utter disdain over what they are capable of.

I know these people and they know me. I hate them for what they are - even still, if one was sick or hungry, I'd want them to get help. They'd want ME to starve and die. To me, the difference is pretty incredulous when you have a face to put the anger to.

These mean hateful voters walk among us. Be aware of your surrounding and keep an eye on your six.

To harm the "least among us" and worship (warship) Mammon.

"Name it to claim it" - a take off on "whatsoever you bind in Jesus name on earth is bound in heaven" The idea is God financially rewards the righteous. So if you are poor, sick, ugly, etc ... that is proof God is punishing you for wickedness.

Completely twisted and sick. But it has been around decades. And these are Trump's steadfast base. He could literally maul a disabled veteran in the middle of National Mall and these folks will praise Jesus for it.

One example that still makes me chuckle... In 1980 something on Testimony Sunday a "righteous" married woman who had 1 son and did not work stood up in front of the whole church to praise God for rewarding her faith with a new Cadillac. A few years later her husband went to jail for some sort of financial crimes and she lost her fancy new Cadi. Funny how she didn't hop up that year and praise God for "smiting the wicked".

I was channel surfing years ago and landed on the 700 club. Pat Robertson showed a video...

It was a warehouse district and a black van arrived. Out of the van poured armed men clad in black with black helmets. Cut to the inside of one of the warehouses. A group of white-robed, beautiful blonde young people were solemnly sitting in a circle with hands joined. They were praying. In comes the armed group and they open fire, killing all of the white-robed worshipers. Cut to Pat Robertson who says, "That is what Democrats will do to Christians".

I was and still am completely outraged. Robertson filled the airwaves with that garbage tax-free for years. No wonder the weak-minded fall prey to MAGA. They relate to the same conspiracies and paranoid madness.

I've often thought that much of our argument against MAGA shouldn't really be about politics but should be about Christianity. They are the ravening wolves in sheep's clothing who follows the antiChrist. And I'm not even Christian. 😀

The ability of people to use whatever propaganda tools are at their disposal to control the masses is really the issue.

I've maintained that people for the most part and good and decent as individuals , but as a herd are not very bright. It's why advertising works. The ability to push people was always with us. Pericles was great at it.

I don't know the answer. We want to keep the propaganda that pushes people to be better, more open ... and not the Pat Robertson kind. How? I don't know.

Then fill those heads with forty years-worth of screaming, frothing, right-wing hatred, resentment, and relentless lies and distortions of reality, and this is what we get.

Some people serve no purpose in life other than as a warning to the rest of us.

…to be so angry all the time.

Grab people off the streets.
I don't want to get involved.
They say they are ICE or DOJ but have no papers

I personally think they would rethink if surrounded by 50 2nd ammendment veterans.

Chump! His racist bigotry will bring on the second American Civil War.

Are they willing to die to let chump claim America?

all the while proclaiming to be Christians.

the bulk of Medicaid recipients. That is where the lion’s share of the money goes. It isn’t children of single mothers. The myth needs to die. To claim it is kids plays into the myth of the welfare queen. It isn’t accurate and never was.

This doesn't give a breakdown of who recipients are. I don't doubt your statement. In my OP, I state that I don't want "ANYONE" to be without food or medical care.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/medicaid-enrollment-by-state

I am entering my late 60's and I am very well of the fact that this administration very muchly wants me to die and get out of the way.

I was taught not words but deeds to be a Christian. There is nothing in any deeds this Republican Party has any relation to Christianity!

I was a stranger in your land you welcomed me. Heal the sick, feed the poor, I am my brothers keeper is totally lost on these people.

I have a fantasy that I go to a for profit Christian church and really give them a slap in the face sermon!

As a believer myself, I agree completely with you. They scream “Jesus” all the time but they act like they never read a word He preached.

Because if you ARE a true Christian, then that's not the goal of your faith! I'm not Catholic, but I love Pope Leo so far. He is so humble and meek and caring, and THAT is what should be representative of Jesus.

So my faith in his humanity has gone down a bit...I hope I'm wrong about this...

believe how much this country has changed in such a short period of time.

Who was it who said "All abuse stems from the refusal of the abuser to feel pain"?

I don't know if they were raised this way or they got the idea from Ayn Rand, but it's also the way they vote.
Selfishly, instead of thinking about what is best for all the people of this country!!

themselves they rely on putting others down as a means of feeling better.

The far right hasn't been ginning up hate all this time, it's been ginning up fear of the other, fear of the unknown, fear of somehow being replaced in their own lifetime, that latter appealing especially to mediocre white males who have had the experience of being fired or laid off from multiple jobs. Mostly it's fear of nothing, but they don't know that.

What Democrats need to do is either address that fear and expose it as a bogeyman (a tall order) or replace it with a larger and more reality based fear: that the billionaires are out to make them slaves. Economic pressure on the 99% is rising rapidly enough now that it might just work.

And should be in the DSM. Irrational and bitter hatred of others they’ve never even met, to the point of their death is, indeed, a sickness.

Cherie Carter-Scott

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/business/qr-code-in-red-envelope-leads-to-invite-only-instagram-page-what-we-know-so-far/articleshow/121338235.cms

She is the author of
IF LIFE is a GAME, THESE are the RULES
Ten Rules for Being Human

Just don't talk to magats.
They are empty of compassion and integrity.
They are in a cult that seeks identity by not being "others" (a moving target as usual)

Never forget:
Strong and self-assured people lift others up.
Weak people try to cut others down to their size.

Food assistance goes to stores, farmers and food packagers. These evil idiots see the government budget like their own where dollars are limited. The federal government can go over budget cheaper than any one. And as Keynes said it is tge government's job to fulfill unmet demand to increase economic activity. That brought our postwar boom.

In the name of Jesus is their defense though. So…

I didn't used to be able to fathom their hatred but now I hate them as much as they hate me.

The difference is they hate me because of who I am, I hate them because of what they do.

make the distinction:

My husband is an Ashkenazim Jew.
Stephen Miller is an Ashkenazim Jew.

I don't love my husband because he is a Jew - I love my husband because through his words and behavior he shows that he is a nice and fair person.
I don't hate Stephen Miller because he is a Jew - I hate Stephen Miller because though his words and behavior he shows that he is a nasty, cruel, vicious, and unfair person.

How's Chicago these days?

trmp intentionally brings out the worse in people.

He is a devil.

People are just horrible today! Makes me sick!

have led to this.

If only there was a way to pull the plug on both this sh*t-spewing hate outlets.

Their hate was stronger than anything good.

for YEARS that this is a war, that they’re going to kill us?

Do people understand that now?

I was one of the biggest screamers on DU for Merrick Garland to DO SOMETHING when he had the chance. And I was constantly told "give him time".

That was the chance and we blew it.

We’re on the left or the right.

The idiots who just couldn't STAND to vote for a WOMAN!

I actually have anger issues all the way back to Gore. I think of what could have been had he been President instead of the idiot Bush. Just think how much further we could have been on social issues, climate change, etc.

There's a part of me that believes that THAT time frame was the deciding factor for mankind. It was the millennium and mankind had a choice, and made the wrong one. Makes me sick.

They will say those children shouldn’t be here or their parents shouldn’t have brought them here or their parents are lazy moochers who shouldn’t have given birth to them. Then they will insist “both sides” yada yada.

I cannot abide a child going hungry or being sick and I don’t care what nationality that child is or how that child got here.

And now Dump wants to put an end to the law that states we are obligated to give food, water,soap, and toothpaste to unaccompanied minors. They want to deny them food and water!

Then they all wear big gold crosses around their necks and brag about being Christians!

investing so much more into what they hate than into what they love. And I get it: there's a visceral pleasure and immediate strength to hatred that a lot of people will either get off on, or just use as leverage for profit. I think there's a huge demo in the nation that gets frustrated when they see other people smiling. For any reason.