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JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:42 PM May 2025

Trump says we are getting very close to nuclear deal with Iran

Last edited Sat May 17, 2025, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-us-is-getting-very-close-nuclear-deal-with-iran-2025-05-15/

However, perhaps they should let Iran know:

"Iran says no new nuclear proposal, disputing Trump: ‘Confusing and contradictory’ messaging"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-17/iran-s-khamenei-brands-trump-a-liar-in-escalation-of-rhetoric?srnd=homepage-americas

Per Bloomberg:

"Iran’s Khamenei Brands Trump a Liar in Escalation of Rhetoric"

Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei accused US President Donald Trump of dishonesty and power abuse, marking the latest rhetorical flare-up between Tehran and the US.

“Trump said he wants to use power for peace; he lied,” Khamenei said in remarks aired Saturday on Iranian state television. “When have they ever used power to create peace?”

Khamenei’s remarks followed Trump’s tour this week of the Middle East, which included stops in Saudi Arabia, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates. Speaking at an investment forum in Riyadh on Tuesday, Trump accused the Islamic Republic’s leadership of corruption and “stealing their people’s wealth” to fund terrorism.

“Some of the remarks made during the US president’s trip to the region aren’t even worth responding to,” Khamenei said. “The level of the statements is so low that they are a source of shame for the speaker and a source of shame for the American people.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-05-17/iran-s-khamenei-brands-trump-a-liar-in-escalation-of-rhetoric?srnd=homepage-americas

while most the U.S. media remains focused on trying to erase the accomplishments of the Biden Administration.
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Walleye

(43,618 posts)
1. "stealing their people's wealth" More big-time projection on Trump's part
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:46 PM
May 2025

Americans don’t want their president going around “making deals” We should be writing and ratifying treaties.

Blubird

(30 posts)
2. More lies
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:46 PM
May 2025

The US had a nuclear deal with Iran until Trump nixed it. Guess he was hoping we’d all forget. If his mouth is moving he is lying!

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
5. They are counting on that, which I am sure contributes to this media obsession working overtime
Sat May 17, 2025, 01:02 PM
May 2025

to destroy the Biden legacy.


Mosby

(19,204 posts)
7. The JCPOA is in effect until oct 18 2025.
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:14 PM
May 2025

And then it expires, along with UNSCR 2231.

The agreement included a "snapback" mechanism, allowing UN member states to reinstate sanctions if Iran violates the agreement. The ability to trigger the "snapback" also expires in October 2025.

The agreement was signed by Iran and the P5+1.

The UK, France and Germany have indicated that they believe Iran has violated the agreement numerous times, so it's likely that sanctions will be extended with or without the US.

LoisB

(12,189 posts)
3. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't former President Obama have a nuclear deal with Iran
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:48 PM
May 2025

that IT blew up?

D_Master81

(2,331 posts)
4. Sounds familiar
Sat May 17, 2025, 12:52 PM
May 2025

I remember when Netenyahu got up at the UN in 2012 and said Iran was about to cross the red line of getting a nuke and the right in this country ran with it. The Iran nuclear deal was a terrible deal according to them.

Mosby

(19,204 posts)
8. Becauae it didnt go far enough
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:16 PM
May 2025

And he was right.

The breakout time for an Iranian nuke is 0-12 months based on intelligence right now.

Get ready for a nuclear Iran.

MineralMan

(150,469 posts)
10. What he probably means is that he wants to give them some nukes to play with.
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:39 PM
May 2025

I mean, we have more than we need, right? We could just give them some of the old ones, or something.

Hekate

(100,131 posts)
11. Even better: "Iran's Khamenei Brands Trump a Liar in Escalation of Rhetoric" from Bloomberg
Sat May 17, 2025, 02:50 PM
May 2025

no_hypocrisy

(54,063 posts)
12. How much does Trump have to pay Iran?
Sat May 17, 2025, 05:28 PM
May 2025

Remember that he wants that Nobel Peace Prize sooooo badly.

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