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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMoody's is the final credit rating agency to downgrade US debt after the
market closed on Friday, but the big news is Axiom released the Hur tapes on Biden to keep this important story alive(sarcasm).
Some cynical folks might think this is a distraction.
Boy they are working overtime time to try and destroy all the accomplishments Biden did.
This is almost as bad as the obsession they had with Hillary.
Supposedly the current administration is talking about a nuclear agreement with Iran, but I have to wonder if anyone will bring up that there was already a deal under Obama until trump blew it up?
Boy Barnum was right, "A sucker is born every minute", and the American public lead the way.
Beartracks
(14,352 posts)... but it doesn't afflict Democrats, and it's not about Trump.
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lapfog_1
(31,659 posts)kimbutgar
(26,809 posts)We're rapidly evolving into a third world nation.
jimmy the one
(2,778 posts)White House smear, yday May 2025: "If Moody's had any credibility, they would not have stayed silent as the fiscal disaster of the past four years unfolded".
Yet Biden and Obama also criticized previous downgrades by S&P in 2011 and by Fitch in 2023.
Biden/Yellen called Fitch arbitrary and outdated. Rest assured trumps comments will be more vulgar and inflammatory.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,973 posts)In 2011, the GOP was responsible for a U.S. credit rating downgrade. In 2023, it happened again. And in 2025, Republicans are again to blame.
Why the latest downgrade of the U.S. credit rating is an embarrassment for Republicans - MSNBC
— (@oc88.bsky.social) 2025-05-19T14:00:03.209Z
apple.news/AJEUHJcLzQhO...
Link to tweet
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/latest-downgrade-us-credit-rating-embarrassment-republicans-rcna207652
Moodys Ratings cut the United States sovereign credit rating down a notch to Aa1 from the Aaa, the highest possible, citing the growing burden of financing the federal governments budget deficit and the rising cost of rolling over existing debt amid high interest rates.
In terms of the practical economic impact, neither the 2011 nor the 2023 downgrades did meaningful harm, though as NBC News report added, the decision from Moodys might end up lifting the yield that investors demand in order to buy U.S. Treasury debt and could dampen sentiment toward owning U.S. assets. Time will tell.
But in terms of the political impact, Donald Trumps White House tried to blame Biden for the developments a go-to move for this administration despite the fact that deficits exploded during Trumps first term and were far smaller under Biden.
Even more interesting, however, was the reaction from House Speaker Mike Johnson. The New York Times noted:
In his appearance on Fox News Sunday, Speaker Mike Johnson tried to spin Moodys recent downgrading of U.S. credit worthiness away from House Republicans multi-trillion-dollar spending package and recast it as a product of the Biden spending spree. He argued that the inferior credit rating was evidence that emphasizes the very need for the legislation were talking about.
.....This need not be complicated. Moodys downgraded the United States because of the countrys national debt and fiscal future. The GOPs reconciliation bill, filled with massive tax breaks, would add nearly $3 trillion to projected budget deficits over the next decade. (As for the idea that there was a Biden spending spree, now seems like a good time to remind everyone that government spending has gone up, not down, since Donald Trump returned to power.)
In other words, the fiscal problem that led to the downgrade would get worse because of the Republicans megabill, which is the opposite of the line GOP leaders have brought to the public.