The guy was one of the greatest to ever play the game. As was Joe Jackson. They're dead, cut them some slack.

Giving him a free pass only encourages others to break the rules as well.

FAFO.

Pete Rose should have been doping.
That seems more acceptable to some.
Nobody came forward saying that Rose was throwing a game.
Barry Bonds actually cheated with roids.

Please forward your post to The White House!

I guess he's more equal than everyone else.

He was a regular amphetamine user.

betting.

… so, yes, it seems entirely appropriate that violations of past laws and/or rules should all just be washed away, and that it happened after the felon had met with the baseball commissioner just dots the i’s and crosses the t’s. Chef’s kiss. Perfection.

Banning players for gambling while inundating your fans with betting odds is hypocritical. I'm not crazy about these guys being reinstated, but I'm FAR more disgusted by the incessant sports betting ads.

A epic stain on the integrity of the game.

Not in the top 200 in career batting average.
Not in the top 400 in carrer OBP.
Not in the top 500 in stolen bases. Singles hitters need to be a threat on the base paths.
Played on teams with feared hitters, and he wasn't one of them.
Hall of Fame? Maybe. But as a fait accompli? I strongly question that.
I also want to know how many of those hits he got while hopped up on those amphetamines he took.

He was one of the greatest players ever and deserves his place int Baseball Hall of Fame.

He gambled when there was intent to keep it away from the game.

Of the 1919 White Sox

He will always have an asterisk next to his name. ✳️

We are in agreement about something for once.

Illegal betting on baseball; illicit gambling on professional baseball games in which he was the team manager and could manipulate the players and the scoring; lying and perjury in depositions; convictions of felony tax evasion; credible allegations of statutory rape of a girl not yet 16 years of age; and, a Turd supporter -- see the baseball Rose autographed and gave to the Turd stating: "Mr. Trump. Please make America Great Again. Pete Rose" Google the picture of that baseball Rose gave to the Turd. One piece of shit sending a "love" article to another piece of shit!

That Trump could personally profit from Rose being allowed into the HoF makes it all the more 2025.

signing everything that he could. Probably one of the most prolific signers out there. It was only of his main sources of income over that time. A Pete Rose autograph, as such, isn't worth much.

Not a disqualifyer for the HOF.

No wonder Trump loves him.

That is the part of the equation people don't understand.

Think about it.

So when he didn't beat the bookies knew what it meant.

Never thought of that. Being from Ohio, and of the generation that grew up practically worshipping the big red machine. Most here gave him a pass. I haven’t thought about baseball or Rose in a long time. The game before the strike of 94 would be the last game I ever watched. And the last time I even thought about the game, aside listening to family members stories. And that is more or less, lending a sympathetic ear.

So I think Pete gets a posthumous break. I don't believe there was ever evidence he bet against the Reds.

He's still got to get through committee and those guys have long memories.

First time I've heard of this, do you have a link to his conviction on child rape?
Did he spend anytime in prison for such a heinous crime?
Inquiring minds want to know.

Less than 1% of rapes result in felony convictions. Cops do a horrible job often treating the victim like the suspect. I do recommend the Netflix documentary Victim / Suspect. One of the things they do recommend is withholding federal funds for law enforcement until they stop doing that.

Statutory rape, yes. He had sex with a 15 year old when he was in his 30s. He didn't deny it, he said he thought she was 16. She wasn't. He wasn't charged due to the statute of limitations.

For your enquiring mind, here is the Cincinnati Enquirer:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/mlb/reds/2022/08/08/what-were-2017-rape-allegations-made-against-former-red-pete-rose/10265209002/

If not, then maybe or maybe not it happened.

Do you believe a conviction means someone did what they're accused of? And that no conviction means they didn't?

Pete Rose himself is the source.

Can you do that?

This former Navy Corpsman is not surprised that a Jarhead can’t Google “Did Pete Rose have sex with an underage girl?”

they patched me up more than a few times in combat.
Other than that, I couldn't care less about your insult to the Marines, who probably saved your ass a few times in combat, if you ever served in actual combat.

As a former soldier I do appreciate the inter-service joking. I will be the first to admit that a spat between a squid and a jarhead provides for some entertainment for this dogface.

As for Pete Rose, I am surprised by the amount and intensity of commentary about him at DU. I am torn on the matter. As a player he is deserving of HOF while as a person he is not a good guy.

I already did. See reply #22.

Cops are notoriously bad at solving sex crimes often treating the victims as if their suspects.

Trump has bragged about sexual assault on tape and was found to be defamatory in civil court regarding his statements about a victim of rape from him but he was never convicted in criminal court for that type of offense but relying on the courts to judge whether a sex crime happened isn't a good idea considering law enforcement is bad at investigating that sort of thing and there is the "he said, she said" myth which privileges the denial.

His defense was NOT "I didn't do it". It was "I did it but I thought she was 16 at the time". So, he had no problem admitting having sex with a 16 year old while he was 32, married and with 2 children. He thought that was a perfectly acceptable and normal thing to do. (She was a Sophomore or possibly even a Freshman in high school for God's sake. He was sick! sick! sick!)

the betting, of course, I knew. But I hadn't heard about the rape of teens.

He's dead, it doesn't matter, at least to me.

It obviously does matter to you, reading your other comments.

Here, If I can make it more clearer to you because you don't seem to understand my words:
I DON'T FUCKING CARE.
There, is that fucking clear enough?
He's dead, what does it matter now?
Considering what's all that's going on in our country and the world, how does this impact the world events?
Why should anyone care about such an insignificant event compared to todays problems?

DON'T FUCKING CARE IF HE IS OR ISN'T TAKEN OFF THE BANNED LIST, compared to todays problems, this is insignificant.
My focus is on saving our Democracy, not if or if not Pete Rose should be removed from the banned list.

It may be insignificant in the big picture, but when you bring in Mierda47, just another pressure point to act like a DICKtator.
He has to be stopped.

I don't fucking care if he is or isn't removed from the lifetime ban, it is insignificant to todays assault on our Democracy.
Let me ask you this, how does this relate to the US and world events happening today?
Do you think that there are far more important issues in the country and world than Pete Rose being removed from the banned list?
Sometimes I'm gob smacked by some of the stupidest shit posted here.

You sure seem worked up for someone who doesn't care.

By the way, while we are being "fucking clear," as you say, I don't really care whether or not you care.

🤬 🤬 🤬

Hopefully MLB will NOT put this asshole into the Hall of Fame

They’ll put him right in.

Same way they've kept out some of the steroid-accused folks like Clemens and Ramirez and etc.

I think he'll get into the HOF - not on the 1st ballot, though.

He is from the neighborhood my Dad grew up in - Price Hill, Cincinnati. He was a deeply flawed human being, but he had a HOF career.

He would have to be inducted via one of several special committees who reconsider years later those who failed to get in through the writers vote.

Shoeless Joe Jackson better get inducted before Rose.

sounds like he'll get in.

which was just voted on in December , so they won't vote again until 2027 for induction in 2028. So if Rose is to get in, it will still be at least 3 more years.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/article/with-pete-rose-and-shoeless-joe-eligible-how-does-the-baseball-hall-of-fame-voting-process-actually-work-191638981.html

He’s just a bad guy all around. Great player, complete asshole as a person.

But he came to town once and played in a charity softball game. He smacked the ball so hard. I thought it was gonna break.

getting a "fresh look" (for want of a better term), while others are NOT... depending on who you are and who's rooting for ya, it seems.

Trump's buds sure have.

Unless I'm very mistaken, a few weeks ago Trump called for Pete Rose to be reinstated and placed in the baseball hall of fame.

I do however expect them to have standards and rules. He cheated. It doesn't matter how well he played or that he is now dead.

He was a cheat. Cheaters should not win.

Politically, Mierda47's administration forced MLB to re-instate Pete Rose.
Pete Rose was a huge Mierda47 supported and died just before the 2024 election.
He may have absentee voted, if voting was open in late September, maybe not.

MLB reinstates Pete Rose after calls by Trump
https://thehill.com/homenews/5298550-mlb-reinstates-pete-rose-after-calls-by-trump/

In this Dec. 15, 2015, file photo, former baseball player and manager Pete Rose speaks at a news conference in Las Vegas. (AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill, File)

had the power to cause coronary artery disease.

Don't say that to Paul.

Because if he is I'm telling him.

Bart Giamatti committed a decades long suicide by smoking 4 packs a day.

disease.. Clogged Veins to the heart.

Congrats on your 10,000th Post, aggiesal .. and on Baseball.

I used to really be into Pro baseball a long time ago.

My Lightning as well. But at least they aren't playing in the Caesars Superdome.

Don't like Pete Rose, but couldn't care less about gambling's involvement in sports anymore. Ads at every corner of the screen and stadium, whatever Pete Rose.

I think many of the people here who have no problem with Pete Rose being eligible for baseball’s HOF had no problem voting for a twice impeached convicted felon for president.

Pete was a HOF'er before he made a bet. Let it go! Baseball now embraces gambling.

Pete was indeed a HOF’er before he made a bet, he was not once he did so. End of story.

this Thead.. I agree.

We are all sinners. I got drunk in the Army forty years ago and punched a man in the nose.

that kept you out of the HOF?

Not every thing ended up in a court martial 40 years ago.

...boring. Give me hockey any day. Damn Oilers took out my Kings....AGAIN!

But speaking of gambling on games, sad to say its fairly normalized now. Banks would not loan to casino's for a time given the "reputation" it had. So the union loans came in. Money is money. Now you have the Raiders, Golden Knights and soon the A's in Las Vegas. Gambling on sports is now a big business and not some shady spot off the Las Vegas strip anymore.

Hell, there was even betting odds on the Pope. We may not like it as it cheapens the game, but at this point, we are coming to a "Running Man" type of situation.

and watching paint dry.

Well, evangelist Charlie Shamp thought so in this interview from about six years ago:

and discusses with them God's involvement in professional baseball and condones things like "cheating;" "gambling on baseball;" "lying under oath in perjured Court depositions; crimes of felony tax evasion; and, credible allegations of statutory rape. Which thief do I send the $20 "donation" to: Charlie Shamp or Jim Bakker?

When they stopped pitchers spitting on a baseball? Stopped allowing too much tar on a baseball bat?

He was caught cheating using too much pine tar on his bat.

Gambling on games was.

clearly an open defier of the rules

The guy bet on his own team. I think he deserves the HOF.

don't miss it at all

Having sex with a minor below the age of consent, those accusations, is something to debate and discuss.

and his offenses are ancient history, and this is a very TRIVIAL matter,
compared with what is going on in this country TODAY....

I was completely unaware there were other issues. I am seriously grateful to you.





in case it isn't clear