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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLawrence O'Donnell made a prediction last night
He said he thinks trump will have to back out of his agreement to receive the luxury jet.
I'm not seeing the backlash that I think would be necessary to force that, but maybe he has inside info.
Anyway, hope he's right, and as we have all seen in the last few days, backing down is kind of trump's thing.
SheltieLover
(76,080 posts)Sure to ignite a massive ketchup flinging tantrum.
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)I'm sure he's moved on to something else now. We'll probably find out when some access journalist has a book to sell.
SheltieLover
(76,080 posts)dsc
(53,308 posts)To make that plane secure would take his entire term.
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)for security reasons. So maybe that's what the R's will hand their hats on and actually oppose this. Maybe.
tavernier
(14,202 posts)and then it became Air Force one for the next president (certainly a democrat)
😂😂😂
Thats a karma Hot Fudge Sundae with Whipped Cream and a Cherry on top!
fargone
(541 posts)Jerry2144
(3,164 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,114 posts)Am writing that down on my log of sign ideas!
Jerry2144
(3,164 posts)Im full of ideas. Or full of something
Bettie
(19,219 posts)because he wants it for after he's done with being in office. Ugly gasbag thinks he'll live forever and that he must always be treated like an emperor.
But hey, even bet he backs down too, since he doesn't appear to have much of a spine, but this is about a "Gift" for HIM! He'll care more about that than most things.
patricia92243
(12,971 posts)ananda
(34,292 posts)to think straight about not getting anything he wants.
He's like a crazed, demented toddler whose mind is
stuck on the idea of grab stuff for me and destroy the rest.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)Except this time he doesn't care. He's not running again, he's not afraid of the law, he's just doing whatever he wants. Period
malaise
(292,143 posts)When did the aircraft land in the US?
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)parked somewhere in TX. Not sure what you're asking, sorry.
Tickle
(4,131 posts)he receive the plane. Apparently, it's in TX
uponit7771
(93,464 posts)UCRalum83
(8 posts)I remember LO making lots or predictions before the election and he was wrong, I believe, across the board. As such, why should I listen to any of his forecasts now?
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)Welcome to DU!
ShazzieB
(22,137 posts)I watch him for his informed and erudite commentary and that of his expert guests.
Forecasts are just somebody's best guess/opinion about what might happen and should therefore always be taken with a grain of salt, no matter the source, imo.
sop
(17,265 posts)flamingdem
(40,776 posts)whether to tangle themselves in this mess.
malaise
(292,143 posts)I want to know that
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)mechanics of what happened exactly. You know, the old who, what, where, when, why. I think the "journalists" that cover the WH should get on that and not take no for an answer.
ShazzieB
(22,137 posts)Just imagine how irate he would be If they were to say, "Sorry, but this is turning out to be more trouble than we bargained for" and start backing slowly away! I would pay money to see his reaction!
Kid Berwyn
(22,695 posts)
Stay away from the cornfield, Lawrence.
Torchlight
(6,264 posts)and then brag to the for-profit media about how selfless he is. He never backs down, he just replaces victory and defeat conditions with each other; hence, every retreat he makes is an advance in the eyes of the his idiots.
senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)The chances that he'll back down are not zero, but the chances that he would admit that it was a bad idea ARE zero.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,359 posts)In fact
maxsolomon
(38,108 posts)impeachment?
Deuxcents
(25,333 posts)Whats next that the taxpayers are gonna have to maintain?
Walleye
(43,657 posts)stillcool
(34,407 posts)Putin style. I wonder what could be on the plane?
usonian
(23,239 posts)
OrlandoDem2
(3,142 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,204 posts)Jit423
(1,568 posts)When he learns what Lawrence said he will not back down and this is the one thing that might finally take him down...literally.
LetMyPeopleVote
(174,176 posts)Plane has been available on an unprotected runway for a long time for various groups to plant spyware and tracking devices. This plane may have to stripped down to the frame to check for extra hardware/spyware. It will NOT be cheap to get this plane to be ready to be Air Force One.
Link to tweet
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/turning-qatari-747-air-force-one-cost-1-billion-take-years-experts-say-rcna206582
They said that accepting the 13-year-old jet would likely cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars over time, noting that refurbishing the commercial plane would exceed its current value of $400 million. The project might also not be completed by the end of Trumps term in 2029, at which time the plane is expected to be handed over to Trumps presidential library foundation.
Richard Aboulafia, an analyst and consultant on commercial and military aviation, said he thought turning the Qatari jetliner into Air Force One would cost billions and take years.
Youre taking a 747, disassembling it, reassembling it, and then jacking it up to a very high level, said Aboulafia, a managing director at AeroDynamic Advisory, a consulting firm......
The Qatari jumbo jet would have to be effectively dismantled, part by part, to ensure there were no listening devices, spyware or other security vulnerabilities that could allow foreign powers to eavesdrop on the presidents plane.
It would then have to be fitted with costly, sophisticated systems for secure government communications, midair refueling, missile defense, countering electronic jamming and protecting against electro-magnetic pulse attack. There would likely need to be quarters added for White House medical staff and the Secret Service.