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senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:12 PM May 2025

Lawrence O'Donnell made a prediction last night

He said he thinks trump will have to back out of his agreement to receive the luxury jet.

I'm not seeing the backlash that I think would be necessary to force that, but maybe he has inside info. Anyway, hope he's right, and as we have all seen in the last few days, backing down is kind of trump's thing.

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Lawrence O'Donnell made a prediction last night (Original Post) senseandsensibility May 2025 OP
Oh my, slobby being told no? SheltieLover May 2025 #1
Oh ketchup is so last term senseandsensibility May 2025 #15
You're prob right. SheltieLover May 2025 #17
I think the security thing will do it in dsc May 2025 #2
And I just heard that Ted Cruz is coming out against the plane senseandsensibility May 2025 #18
Can you imagine if it took that long to secure it tavernier May 2025 #29
Nah, a couple of cell phones and the Signal app and good to go fargone May 2025 #33
More flip flops than Venice Beach Jerry2144 May 2025 #3
Oh my! That would be a great bumper sticker, tee shirt, or sign for the next local demonstration! Attilatheblond May 2025 #19
Go ahead and use it Jerry2144 May 2025 #20
I think he will take it Bettie May 2025 #4
The backlash will last a couple of days, then MAGA will fall back in line - and Trump will have a new plane. patricia92243 May 2025 #5
I don't think Trump is sane enough or well enough mentally... ananda May 2025 #6
No different than before Tickle May 2025 #38
When did he receive this gift? malaise May 2025 #7
He agreed to receive it and it is currently senseandsensibility May 2025 #9
She's asking when did Tickle May 2025 #39
It was a distraction either way uponit7771 May 2025 #8
Irrelevent UCRalum83 May 2025 #10
That's certainly up to you senseandsensibility May 2025 #12
I don't watch Lawrence to get forecasts. ShazzieB May 2025 #30
It's not like Trump has to fly Economy Class on Frontier Airlines now. sop May 2025 #11
I think Qatar is waiting and deciding flamingdem May 2025 #13
So why is the aircraft in Texas - when was it sent malaise May 2025 #14
There does seem to be some haziness about the senseandsensibility May 2025 #23
It would be a hoot if they were to change their minds about giving him the plane. ShazzieB May 2025 #35
Traitor's gonna throw a temper tantrum. Kid Berwyn May 2025 #16
I could easily see him send it back unopened and wrapped in his hissy fit Torchlight May 2025 #21
True senseandsensibility May 2025 #22
What do I care if the jagoff flies around in an unsecured target with no countermeasures? Hassin Bin Sober May 2025 #24
who or what will stop him? maxsolomon May 2025 #25
He has his own personal airplane, Air Force One and helicopters he's privy to and now he wants a sky palace gift. Deuxcents May 2025 #26
He is raping America. He won't take no for an answer. Walleye May 2025 #27
wish he'd back out of the Whitehouse stillcool May 2025 #28
Let him ride. Fun to see him deplane. usonian May 2025 #31
Call your senators and representatives! Tell them to tell Trump NO! OrlandoDem2 May 2025 #32
Never can get reminded of that too often! senseandsensibility May 2025 #34
It's a HUGE security risk. Anyone who doesn't see that is brain dead. However, Lawrence is baiting Trump/ Jit423 May 2025 #36
Turning Qatari 747 into Air Force One could cost $1 billion and take years, experts say LetMyPeopleVote May 2025 #37

senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
15. Oh ketchup is so last term
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:46 PM
May 2025

I'm sure he's moved on to something else now. We'll probably find out when some access journalist has a book to sell.

dsc

(53,308 posts)
2. I think the security thing will do it in
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:18 PM
May 2025

To make that plane secure would take his entire term.

senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
18. And I just heard that Ted Cruz is coming out against the plane
Tue May 13, 2025, 02:17 PM
May 2025

for security reasons. So maybe that's what the R's will hand their hats on and actually oppose this. Maybe.

tavernier

(14,202 posts)
29. Can you imagine if it took that long to secure it
Tue May 13, 2025, 04:42 PM
May 2025

and then it became Air Force one for the next president (certainly a democrat)

😂😂😂

That’s a karma Hot Fudge Sundae with Whipped Cream and a Cherry on top!

Attilatheblond

(8,114 posts)
19. Oh my! That would be a great bumper sticker, tee shirt, or sign for the next local demonstration!
Tue May 13, 2025, 02:21 PM
May 2025

Am writing that down on my log of sign ideas!

Bettie

(19,219 posts)
4. I think he will take it
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:22 PM
May 2025

because he wants it for after he's done with being in office. Ugly gasbag thinks he'll live forever and that he must always be treated like an emperor.

But hey, even bet he backs down too, since he doesn't appear to have much of a spine, but this is about a "Gift" for HIM! He'll care more about that than most things.

patricia92243

(12,971 posts)
5. The backlash will last a couple of days, then MAGA will fall back in line - and Trump will have a new plane.
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:22 PM
May 2025

ananda

(34,292 posts)
6. I don't think Trump is sane enough or well enough mentally...
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:23 PM
May 2025

to think straight about not getting anything he wants.

He's like a crazed, demented toddler whose mind is
stuck on the idea of grab stuff for me and destroy the rest.

 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
38. No different than before
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:29 PM
May 2025

Except this time he doesn't care. He's not running again, he's not afraid of the law, he's just doing whatever he wants. Period

senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
9. He agreed to receive it and it is currently
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:27 PM
May 2025

parked somewhere in TX. Not sure what you're asking, sorry.

UCRalum83

(8 posts)
10. Irrelevent
Tue May 13, 2025, 01:28 PM
May 2025

I remember LO making lots or predictions before the election and he was wrong, I believe, across the board. As such, why should I listen to any of his forecasts now?

ShazzieB

(22,137 posts)
30. I don't watch Lawrence to get forecasts.
Tue May 13, 2025, 04:49 PM
May 2025

I watch him for his informed and erudite commentary and that of his expert guests.

Forecasts are just somebody's best guess/opinion about what might happen and should therefore always be taken with a grain of salt, no matter the source, imo.

senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
23. There does seem to be some haziness about the
Tue May 13, 2025, 04:15 PM
May 2025

mechanics of what happened exactly. You know, the old who, what, where, when, why. I think the "journalists" that cover the WH should get on that and not take no for an answer.

ShazzieB

(22,137 posts)
35. It would be a hoot if they were to change their minds about giving him the plane.
Tue May 13, 2025, 05:00 PM
May 2025

Just imagine how irate he would be If they were to say, "Sorry, but this is turning out to be more trouble than we bargained for" and start backing slowly away! I would pay money to see his reaction!

Torchlight

(6,264 posts)
21. I could easily see him send it back unopened and wrapped in his hissy fit
Tue May 13, 2025, 02:50 PM
May 2025

and then brag to the for-profit media about how selfless he is. He never backs down, he just replaces victory and defeat conditions with each other; hence, every retreat he makes is an advance in the eyes of the his idiots.

senseandsensibility

(24,204 posts)
22. True
Tue May 13, 2025, 03:00 PM
May 2025

The chances that he'll back down are not zero, but the chances that he would admit that it was a bad idea ARE zero.

Deuxcents

(25,333 posts)
26. He has his own personal airplane, Air Force One and helicopters he's privy to and now he wants a sky palace gift.
Tue May 13, 2025, 04:28 PM
May 2025

What’s next that the taxpayers are gonna have to maintain?

Jit423

(1,568 posts)
36. It's a HUGE security risk. Anyone who doesn't see that is brain dead. However, Lawrence is baiting Trump/
Tue May 13, 2025, 05:02 PM
May 2025

When he learns what Lawrence said he will not back down and this is the one thing that might finally take him down...literally.

LetMyPeopleVote

(174,176 posts)
37. Turning Qatari 747 into Air Force One could cost $1 billion and take years, experts say
Tue May 13, 2025, 07:16 PM
May 2025

Plane has been available on an unprotected runway for a long time for various groups to plant spyware and tracking devices. This plane may have to stripped down to the frame to check for extra hardware/spyware. It will NOT be cheap to get this plane to be ready to be Air Force One.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/turning-qatari-747-air-force-one-cost-1-billion-take-years-experts-say-rcna206582

Converting a Qatari-owned 747 jet into a new Air Force One for President Donald Trump would involve installing multiple top-secret systems, cost over $1 billion and take years to complete, three aviation experts told NBC News.

They said that accepting the 13-year-old jet would likely cost U.S. taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars over time, noting that refurbishing the commercial plane would exceed its current value of $400 million. The project might also not be completed by the end of Trump’s term in 2029, at which time the plane is expected to be handed over to Trump’s presidential library foundation.

Richard Aboulafia, an analyst and consultant on commercial and military aviation, said he thought turning the Qatari jetliner into Air Force One would cost billions and take years.

“You’re taking a 747, disassembling it, reassembling it, and then jacking it up to a very high level,” said Aboulafia, a managing director at AeroDynamic Advisory, a consulting firm......

The Qatari jumbo jet would have to be effectively dismantled, part by part, to ensure there were no listening devices, spyware or other security vulnerabilities that could allow foreign powers to eavesdrop on the president’s plane.

It would then have to be fitted with costly, sophisticated systems for secure government communications, midair refueling, missile defense, countering electronic jamming and protecting against electro-magnetic pulse attack. There would likely need to be quarters added for White House medical staff and the Secret Service.

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