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Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:32 AM Apr 25

One of the MSNBC financial pundits said Trump is probably now a real billionaire.

I believe it was on the Nicole Wallace show.

Pundit alluding to all of Trump's grifting during the campaign and since being in the WH.
Crypto, tariff deals, etc.

I am sure there is big grifting behind the scenes in addition to the stuff we can see
in plain sight.

So as Trump cuts all federal spending, he is raking in the cash big time.

Michael Cohen, Trump's long time advisor, has said a number of times that Trump's goal is to
become a trillionaire. I believe that almost everything Trump is doing in the WH is connected
to that goal.

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One of the MSNBC financial pundits said Trump is probably now a real billionaire. (Original Post) Irish_Dem Apr 25 OP
Yes and more than grifting, insider trading, looting/stealing, extorting etc. Meowmee Apr 25 #1
Yes we know about quite a few of his crimes. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #2
Doge for one, but there may be other things too... Meowmee Apr 25 #3
Trump's theft of the US treasury should be getting more attention. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #5
Yes somehow I suspect some of this doge money etc. will go directly to you know who... Meowmee Apr 25 #7
No one else has stolen $1 trillion from the US government? Irish_Dem Apr 25 #9
I Don't Think CitizenZero Apr 25 #14
I agree, especially since we know he is fixated on gold for some reason. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #15
Where did BonnieJW Apr 25 #31
Exactly. A couple of million here, a couple of million there, adds up to real money. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #32
Day after day--looting from the USA is the only thing #Trump is very good at. riversedge Apr 27 #40
A Criminal CitizenZero Apr 25 #4
It is the greatest heist in American history. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #6
Yep CitizenZero Apr 25 #10
Yes it is believed that Putin is the richest man in the world. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #17
Right CitizenZero Apr 25 #18
Pavel Durov arrested in Paris last summer. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #19
Thanks CitizenZero Apr 25 #20
Well yes of course. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #21
Malcolm Nance CitizenZero Apr 25 #22
Yes MN has a lot of interesting things to say. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #23
Good Topic CitizenZero Apr 25 #24
Good ideas. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #25
PS Irish_Dem Apr 25 #27
Keep Up The Good Work CitizenZero Apr 25 #30
Also CitizenZero Apr 25 #12
Yes and not only failure to convict but given total immunity in the future. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #16
So he's a billionaire. Demobrat Apr 25 #8
Trump is a vicious, ruthless psychopath. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #11
And still he will never be happy, content, Demobrat Apr 25 #26
Yes nothing will ever fill the hole in his soul. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #28
with a gold digging wife Skittles Apr 25 #13
Don't forget his psychopath kids. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #29
I honestly haven't heard much about them OR that creepy fuck Jared Skittles Apr 25 #33
The word on the street about the spawn: Irish_Dem Apr 25 #34
oh I have zero doubt they are grifting Skittles Apr 25 #35
That was Musk's goal misanthrope Apr 25 #36
Yep. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #37
Kurt Vonnegut wrote this obituary/poem for The New Yorker in May of 2005 . Swede Apr 25 #38
Heller was rich in spirit and soul. Irish_Dem Apr 25 #39

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
2. Yes we know about quite a few of his crimes.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:40 AM
Apr 25

The grifting, insider trading, extorting, etc.

What do you think he is looting and stealing?
I agree with you, I just wonder what he is doing and how?

Having the entire US federal budget, resources, assets at his finger tips
has to be extremely enticing for a greedy psychopath like Trump.

Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
3. Doge for one, but there may be other things too...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:41 AM
Apr 25

The tariffs also will be a form of looting somehow.... and more. He and his father etc. did things like this for many years and were never held accountable. If they had been he would not be in power most likely. Even when he went bankrupt 3-4 times they kept bankrolling him for a long time until finally they said no, and then Russia took over.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
5. Trump's theft of the US treasury should be getting more attention.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:48 AM
Apr 25

Yes, the federal payroll is about $5 trillion a year.
Musk fired quite a few workers, so that money is now available.

Word on the street is that when countries have contacted Trump for
tariff negotiations, he insists that they start doing business with the Trump
companies. For himself and his spawn. So the world is forcde to donate
money to the Trump empire.

And we know that Trump now has free legal services for life from top notch
law firms.

And the Secret Service will pay out the nose guarding him and staying at his property, etc.



Meowmee

(9,212 posts)
7. Yes somehow I suspect some of this doge money etc. will go directly to you know who...
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:51 AM
Apr 25

The biggest heist/con in history maybe, or one of them.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
9. No one else has stolen $1 trillion from the US government?
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:54 AM
Apr 25

Which is Trump's goal.
In the first three months he is now a billionaire, a real one.
No longer a fake billionaire.
And his kids are much richer too.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
14. I Don't Think
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:12 AM
Apr 25

I don't think that it is a coincidence that Trump wanted to go see the gold in Fort Knox. He probably thinks it belongs to him now, not to the Federal Government and so to the American people. He has got to be stopped.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
15. I agree, especially since we know he is fixated on gold for some reason.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:17 AM
Apr 25

It represents his fantasy of being the richest person in the world.

I am sure he got a souvenir or two from Ft Know, maybe more.
No one is able to tell Trump NO, you cannot have that or do that.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
32. Exactly. A couple of million here, a couple of million there, adds up to real money.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:40 AM
Apr 25

A mob boss gets a cut of everything,

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
4. A Criminal
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:42 AM
Apr 25

A criminal unsurpassed in American history. No surprise that he has referenced Al Capone in regards to his felony convictions. In his first term I compared him to Boss Tweed but Trump has gone far beyond Tweed already in this second term.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
6. It is the greatest heist in American history.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:49 AM
Apr 25

And no one is paying attention or seems to care one bit.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
10. Yep
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:54 AM
Apr 25

Agreed. I think that he is emulating Putin and the Oligarchs when they took over Russia. They call Elon Musk the richest man in the world, but the word is that it is really Putin. He has vast personal wealth but also all of the wealth of the Russian State is at his fingertips. That is what Trump wants.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
17. Yes it is believed that Putin is the richest man in the world.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:34 AM
Apr 25

I think he is worth at least $500 billion.

Putin has not only stolen most of Russia's vast oil wealth, but we have learned
that he is running a large sex and drug ring, trafficking, etc. One of his minions was
held in Paris who runs that business for Putin.

Putin has taken most of Russia's wealth for himself while outside of Moscow
people do not have indoor plumbing.

Yes of course this is exactly what Trump wants.
Access to all US assets and resources.
And probably wants to do drug/sex trafficking like Putin.
Actually Trump was involved in the sex/drug trade when he and Epstein were besties.

And like Putin, Trump will bankrupt the US and drastically reduce the American
standard of living in order to become the richest man in the world.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
18. Right
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:38 AM
Apr 25

Do you have any sources on the Putin sex/drug trafficking ring and the rest of your comment? I would like to do some reading on it.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
19. Pavel Durov arrested in Paris last summer.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:46 AM
Apr 25

The Russian-born founder of messaging app Telegram, arrested in France as part of an investigation into crimes related to child pornography, drug trafficking and fraudulent transactions on the platform.
Supposed links to Putin.

It is quite reasonable to suspect Putin is running illegal drug/sex rings.
He has a vast network of political operatives who have installed his puppets into govt
positions in the US and Europe. This costs money.

Putin is also running mercenaries
across Africa and South America to start wars to produce large numbers of refugees
who flood the US and Europe to help create dissent and turn elections in Putin's favor.

All of this costs a great deal of cash and Putin will not use his personal money for it.
He gets it from his illegal activities.

Putin is a viscous, ruthless psychopath who will stop at nothing to achieve his goals.
Restoration of the old USSR, control over Europe and the US, and #1 superpower.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
20. Thanks
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:52 AM
Apr 25

It occurs to me that part of what Putin could use a sex trafficking ring for is compromat or extortion material over politicians and businessmen, which may be something he has on Trump. We have to always keep in mind that Putin is first and foremost a KGB agent who worked in human intelligence. One of the first rules of humint is to get control over your target. A handle. Whether that is money, sex extortion, whatever else an agent can use.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
21. Well yes of course.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:59 AM
Apr 25

None of this is rocket science.
It is all a quite straightforward espionage skill set.

Putin is an old school KGB agent.
And will have used assets for exactly the purposes you state.

Putin has been able to install his puppets all across Europe.
Helped engineer Brexit which has devastated Gt Britain financially.
Installed Trump into the WH who is now destroying the US.

And Putin has turned the US into a mini Russia of hatred, anger,
vicious hostility towards women, LGBT, POC, etc.

He did it using KGB tactics.
Propaganda, buying politicians, threatening and blackmailing them etc.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
22. Malcolm Nance
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:08 AM
Apr 25

Malcolm Nance has interesting things to say on this topic. I have been watching his videos and I plan on reading his books. Good discussion.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
23. Yes MN has a lot of interesting things to say.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:11 AM
Apr 25

At times he appears a bit hyperbolic, but most of what he says is right on.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
24. Good Topic
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:18 AM
Apr 25

This information needs to get to more people. Maybe you should try to repost the OP and link to this thread later in the day so that it reaches more DUers. Only Nighthawks and Early Birds are reading at this hour. This Russia Connection gets talked about, but not in enough detail or frequency. I have to sign off the internet soon but I will be looking for more info on this topic. I may try posting about it here on DU during a different time period to try and reach more people. The alarm needs to be sounded, I think. I appreciate your posts.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
25. Good ideas.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:28 AM
Apr 25

Yes why don't you make some OPs about how Trump is robbing the country blind.
And how he is doing it.

This should be front and center.
It is the biggest heist in US history.

I will also make some more OPs on the topic.
Yes I should have waited until a bit later to post this.

Thanks for the discussion and ideas.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
27. PS
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:30 AM
Apr 25

I have been posting for years about the Putin connection.
Back when people thought it was crazy.
Now people are beginning to see what I have been warning about.

 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
12. Also
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:58 AM
Apr 25

He should have been convicted and jailed like Tweed after the first term. One of the greatest failures of the justice system ever.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
16. Yes and not only failure to convict but given total immunity in the future.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 04:20 AM
Apr 25

Unbelievable to give a ruthless psychopath that much power.
The power to destroy the US and the world.

Yes I have no respect whatsoever for the US judicial system.
They failed miserably and have put the US and world in grave danger.

Demobrat

(10,162 posts)
8. So he's a billionaire.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:54 AM
Apr 25

He’s still a miserable, angry, envious, ugly, diaper wearing old fat slob. And nothing will ever change that.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
11. Trump is a vicious, ruthless psychopath.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 03:55 AM
Apr 25

He will destroy the US and the world to make himself rich and powerful.
And because he loves being cruel and hurting others.

Demobrat

(10,162 posts)
26. And still he will never be happy, content,
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:29 AM
Apr 25

or at peace. He will destroy the US and the world just to make sure that everyone else is as miserable as he is.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
28. Yes nothing will ever fill the hole in his soul.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:31 AM
Apr 25

And no amount of money will ever make him happy.
He will always want more.

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
29. Don't forget his psychopath kids.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:32 AM
Apr 25

They are just as bad as Trump.

The Trump crime family.

Skittles

(164,523 posts)
33. I honestly haven't heard much about them OR that creepy fuck Jared
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:52 AM
Apr 25

at least we have THAT

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
34. The word on the street about the spawn:
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 05:58 AM
Apr 25

They are being totally quiet for a reason.
Like your toddler being way too quiet, they are up to no good.

The Trump kids are getting vastly wealthy.
The are making a fortune on the tariff insider trading and market manipulation.

And the countries coming to DC to make tariff deals must agree to investing
or doing business with the Trump kids' businesses.

Swede

(36,308 posts)
38. Kurt Vonnegut wrote this obituary/poem for The New Yorker in May of 2005 .
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:51 PM
Apr 25

True story, Word of Honor:
Joseph Heller, an important and funny writer
now dead,
and I were at a party given by a billionaire
on Shelter Island.
I said, “Joe, how does it make you feel
to know that our host only yesterday
may have made more money
than your novel ‘Catch-22’
has earned in its entire history?”
And Joe said, “I’ve got something he can never have.”
And I said, “What on earth could that be, Joe?”
And Joe said, “The knowledge that I’ve got enough.”
Not bad! Rest in peace!”

— Kurt Vonnegut

Irish_Dem

(70,166 posts)
39. Heller was rich in spirit and soul.
Fri Apr 25, 2025, 06:55 PM
Apr 25

The opposite of the ultra wealthy who know the price of everything but the value of nothing.

Thank you for posting this Swede.

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