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Ty!

Maybe we can convince Trump's press secretary that if we change the names of the airports to Democratically elected presidents, there wouldn't be confusion at these airports?

Naming airports for Republican fuckweasels is where we run into trouble. That goes for you, too, John Wayne Airport!

The driver of a tug vehicle at Chicago O'Hare International Airport was injured
Saturday evening after colliding with the wing of an airplane.

More at link.

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/tug-vehicle-accident-chicago-ohare/

Seriously, what is going on here?

Wed. Fri. and 2 today.

Incidents like these (plane catches fire, incident with tug and airplane wing at ORD) happen all the time. As in daily. It's just that most of the time they get zero mention in the press. Except after and accident, like the one at DCA, every single trivial incident gets reported for the next three weeks.

Trust me on this. I was a ticket agent at DCA for ten years.

Or whatever it was that happened in Philly with the medical flight taking a patient and their mother back to Mexico.

Small planes crash with astonishing frequency. Mostly from pilot error, because they are not that experienced, that well trained. The plane that crashed in Philly was exactly one of those kinds of flights.

So, not two commercial crashes back to back, but one commercial crash, one private plane crash.

Again, if you are not in some way connected to the industry, you have no clue how often minor incidents occur. Well, okay, that small jet crash was exactly minor, but I cannot repeat enough that it was not a commercial flight. And that small planes go down regularly.

and she & her husband were watching Fox's ongoing coverage of the DC crash.

"First this crash and now Philly?" she asked. "You can't tell me they're not connected."

"Yeah," said her husband. "Someone's working hard to make Trump look bad."

Me: ...

People are hoping for the "FAFO" effect, that is to say that things will get so bad that people will regret supporting Trump. You just gave us a perfect example of what will really happen. No matter how bad things get, they won't blame Trump. They will blame us, Trump's opponents. This is really important for people to understand.

A few days ago a friend posted a comment along the lines of "they will pay any price to remain loyal to him as long as he continues to hurt the people that they want to see get hurt."

That "price" includes their own suffering, as long as some brown person somewhere is suffering more.

Incidents like these, as common as they may be, when happening in the context of a madman's attacks on government agencies changes people's perceptions, and people's perceptions matter. At some point in this chaos your reassurances, however well informed, will fall on deaf ears.

People's trust in the system is it the same thing as the trustworthiness of the system, and civilized society depends upon a general agreement to follow the rules and support the system. That is breaking down. "Okay everyone, listen up" and "trust me I was an insider" doesn't work in this situation.

happily accept conspiracy bullshit. And again, this is something I know very well.

Too many lies, too many broken promises from the leaders in a society creates a vacuum. People are hungry for a story, for explanations. The less trust they have in authority, the more vulnerable people are to outlandish stories and explanations.

I’ve been a pilot for 30 years.

This is trump’s America and he is responsible.

I won't start any fake news, but I'll air negative opinions every single chance I get. I have a relative who is a commercial pilot. Any news about airline or airplane mishaps increases my worry about his safety. I understand that there are mishaps and small plane crashes every day, but since there has been news of this kind daily, since Thursday, on top of the takeover of the government and ousting employees, adding costs to imported items, threatening wars with at least 3 countries, I am not in a good mood. I don't want to be reasonable, and I don't want to try to see both sides.

You post a link from FOX? Do you have something else?

not a big deal. Captain turns off the fuel to the engine, arms a Fire extinguisher in the engine and discharges it. If that doesn't do it, they discharge a second one. If that doesn't do it, the ARFF pull up and immediately use one of their monitors to overwhelm the engine by directing a stream of Foam directly into the front and/or back of the engine......

was in charge, the news was on top every event. There was the story about the plane manufacturers hiding things, whistleblowers dying, and other 'interesting' coverage.

Maybe these airplane crashes and mishaps are the only thing that the media will cover exhaustively, no matter who's in the White House.