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applegrove

(124,372 posts)
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 01:45 PM Feb 2

Many Say the Democrats Do Not Share Their Priorities

Many Say the Democrats Do Not Share Their Priorities

February 2, 2025 at 10:47 am EST By Taegan Goddard 293 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2025/02/02/many-say-the-democrats-do-not-share-their-priorities/

"SNIP...............

“Many Americans say they do not believe the Democratic Party is focused on the economic issues that matter most to them and is instead placing too much emphasis on social issues that they consider less urgent,” the New York Times reports.

“Asked to identify the Democratic Party’s most important priorities, Americans most often listed abortion, LGBTQ rights and climate change, according to a poll from The New York Times and Ipsos conducted from Jan. 2 to 10.”

“The issues that people cited as most important to them personally were the economy and inflation, health care and immigration, the poll found.”

Washington Post: Democrats are in trouble, and a provocative analysis offers ideas to repair the party.

..........SNIP"

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Many Say the Democrats Do Not Share Their Priorities (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2 OP
That only confirms just how stupid and illiterate Americans are. JohnSJ Feb 2 #1
Exactly Hitorque Feb 2 #17
Exactly. Who proposed first time home buyer assistance? spooky3 Feb 2 #56
Are they happy with the new egg prices? nt Wicked Blue Feb 2 #2
re: eggs TnDem Feb 2 #43
It's giving: W_HAMILTON Feb 2 #51
The Democrats would win big if they started talking and pushing Medicare for All. Autumn Feb 2 #3
And Universal Basic Income. nt in2herbs Feb 2 #5
Yep. It's not like this country can't afford those things. Autumn Feb 2 #7
I agree and if we can ever see a way out of this fascism we need to scream for these things. IMO in2herbs Feb 2 #10
That's not happening... Hitorque Feb 2 #13
They said fascism could never come to America either, yet here it is! nt in2herbs Feb 2 #14
And the worst part is we literally voted for our own fascist junta Hitorque Feb 2 #24
Maybe you did. I didn't. nt in2herbs Feb 2 #46
Well somebody fucking did... Hitorque Feb 2 #47
That's a pity that we keep electing people who would rather take money from insurance companies Autumn Feb 2 #19
It's an even bigger pity Hitorque Feb 2 #25
Unlikely... Hitorque Feb 2 #11
Single payer or Medicare for all will never, ever happen. Autumn Feb 2 #15
You'd think if the people wanted it that badly, Hitorque Feb 2 #21
Because the people are told it won't work . Other countries hate their Autumn Feb 2 #27
They did want it. i well remeber when Obama said the bill I sign MUST have a Autumn Feb 2 #29
Like I said, Hitorque Feb 2 #38
It wasn't Senate Dems. It was one. Joe fucking Lieberman threatened a filibuster Autumn Feb 2 #45
And who supporting these policies have shown they can win in red -- hell, even purple -- areas? W_HAMILTON Feb 2 #55
Vichy quislings say wut? Wild blueberry Feb 2 #4
The only party pushing social issues are the republicans Keepthesoulalive Feb 2 #6
The desire to fix healthcare is an opening for Democrats, no? applegrove Feb 2 #8
Not if you have republicans blocking it Keepthesoulalive Feb 2 #9
It should be EdmondDantes_ Feb 2 #12
Bull-fucking-shit Hitorque Feb 2 #16
WHO is "many"? These people NEVER vote Democratic regardless. valleyrogue Feb 2 #18
It's not a question of whether it's true -- it's about PERCEPTION. And this is where Nanjeanne Feb 2 #20
WRONG. Completely and totally WRONG. valleyrogue Feb 2 #32
I'm not trying to salvage any Trump voters. I don't expect any Trump voter to vote for a Dem. Nanjeanne Feb 2 #41
If you're correct, then I guess you must believe Democrats can't ever win again. Elessar Zappa Feb 2 #44
We have to focus on the people who are misinformed and spooky3 Feb 2 #57
Well said RJ-MacReady Feb 2 #48
Human rights, common decency, and civilization are what steer my votes. Ping Tung Feb 2 #22
Their so-called social issues are often human rights . Not populist, I guess. Walleye Feb 2 #23
. dalton99a Feb 2 #26
thank the media stillcool Feb 2 #28
Yes indeed. MontanaMama Feb 2 #31
The GOP successfully framed the Democratic Party. Raven123 Feb 2 #30
Climate change isn't connected to economics? Boomerproud Feb 2 #33
Many also say that TCF is a good businessman and Edolf is an engineering genius. RockRaven Feb 2 #34
Instead of focusing on tariffs and rounding up Klarkashton Feb 2 #35
NYT is generally selling crap. Xoan Feb 2 #36
Democrats can walk and chew gum at the same time Dave says Feb 2 #37
"Dems are out of touch with the middle class.... Hitorque Feb 2 #39
We used interest groups to motivate our base bucolic_frolic Feb 2 #40
Seems that 'their' priorities are like those of everywhere: VARIED. elleng Feb 2 #42
They aren't going to admit they voted based on their bigotry JI7 Feb 2 #49
a result of more effective republican messaging - they are the ones that made transgender a news item etc msongs Feb 2 #50
Another example of right-wing disinformation and propaganda at work. Shermann Feb 2 #52
The problem is RJ-MacReady Feb 2 #54
Most of the time in the USA it's the economy that dominates elections andym Feb 2 #53
I mean, I don't think Democrats can sacrifice abortion rights for some kind of economic message. alarimer Feb 2 #58
They fkd around and will soon FIND OUT who shares their "priorities" I think. B.See Feb 2 #59

spooky3

(36,887 posts)
56. Exactly. Who proposed first time home buyer assistance?
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:41 PM
Feb 2

Who proposed improving family and medical leave? Who proposed credits for entrepreneurs? Etc.

And exactly what have Republicans done or proposed that would better address the economy, inflation, or any other issue these voters say they care about? It was Rs who kept bringing up identity politics, not the Dems.

TnDem

(645 posts)
43. re: eggs
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:16 PM
Feb 2

Egg prices are by-and-large, artificially high mainly because so many henhouses have been culling hundreds of thousands of laying hens because of a few cases of bird flu.

Stop killing the entire henhouse for a few sick birds and eggs will start coming down again.

Neither Biden nor Trump are a direct cause for the spike in egg prices....New parameters for henhouse quarantine would probably help tremendously instead of knee jerk culling of millions of healthy birds.

in2herbs

(3,427 posts)
10. I agree and if we can ever see a way out of this fascism we need to scream for these things. IMO
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:09 PM
Feb 2

our members of Congress will continue to go along to get along and try to reconstruct the US using its broken foundation.

If the $$ we allocate for the administration and payment for all social programs, SNAP, Medicaid, etc., were instead to go in one pot that guarantees UBI without conditions I think we'd win elections. Even better IMO we'd be on an irreversible path towards a better future.

Autumn

(47,213 posts)
19. That's a pity that we keep electing people who would rather take money from insurance companies
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:23 PM
Feb 2

and give them subsidies than give people actual Healthcare.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
21. You'd think if the people wanted it that badly,
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:31 PM
Feb 2

They would have gone all-in back in 2010 when it had a snowball's chance of becoming a reality...

Autumn

(47,213 posts)
27. Because the people are told it won't work . Other countries hate their
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:37 PM
Feb 2

national healthcare. That's all bullshit. It's too expensive. Well the CBO has proved time and again that is not true. In fact it would be much cheaper than what we have. American people will believe anything the news and politicians, who make big money (bribes) from insurance comanies, tell them. America does the best propaganda.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
38. Like I said,
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:52 PM
Feb 2

Senate Dems withheld their votes until the PO was dropped...

And I don't know where you live, but where I live people were screaming to high heaven about not having "socialist" healthcare...

And to make things worse, Dem voters stayed home during the midterms, opening the door for the current batshit insane Trumpers who are plaguing us today...

Autumn

(47,213 posts)
45. It wasn't Senate Dems. It was one. Joe fucking Lieberman threatened a filibuster
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:26 PM
Feb 2

and Obama dropped it. Maybe Democrats stayed home during the midterms because of what Lieberman did. Stupid people always complain about socialism. It's a republican trait.

W_HAMILTON

(8,677 posts)
55. And who supporting these policies have shown they can win in red -- hell, even purple -- areas?
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:38 PM
Feb 2

Last edited Sun Feb 2, 2025, 06:55 PM - Edit history (1)

Any names?

I'm quite progressive, but I also realize the pie-in-the-sky nature of many progressives. If Americans as a whole were clamoring for these policies that are being pushed primarily by elected politicians in super blue areas of the country, where are those that won office running on these policies in red/purple areas?

Wild blueberry

(7,365 posts)
4. Vichy quislings say wut?
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 01:51 PM
Feb 2

Consider the sources. NYT and WaPo have sold their integrity to Frump.

I just spent yesterday canvassing in rural Wisconsin. The people I listened to understand quite well what is going on. They consider Democrats the force that can oppose the firehouse of excrement.
(The few Maga I encountered were sullen or absolutely shut down, like good little cult dolts. They told me, "Go away.&quot

Keepthesoulalive

(993 posts)
6. The only party pushing social issues are the republicans
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 01:55 PM
Feb 2

If they are to stupid to see the repubs are about to crash the economy that’s on them. The democrats have consistently tried to focus on economic issues and have made the country better. The republicans block any and everything that will help the majority of Americans. Americans love a bully and they have one. A tariff so Canada will become the 51st state. Please stop pushing divisive bullshit. Focus on the people who are trying to destroy us and make a plan.

Keepthesoulalive

(993 posts)
9. Not if you have republicans blocking it
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:07 PM
Feb 2

People keep electing people who don’t give a damn about them.
Alabama, Georgia, Florida and many other red states don’t want that communism and socialism, they constantly vote against everyone’s interest.
Look who we have for president.

EdmondDantes_

(253 posts)
12. It should be
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:11 PM
Feb 2

I also think if approached right, the economy should be. The job creation numbers should be a major cudgel against the normal story that Republicans are better. Still would have been a hard sell in 2024 given inflation, but given the likely economic issues from the tariffs and a possible debt ceiling fight, it can be in our favor in 2026 and going forward.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
16. Bull-fucking-shit
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:14 PM
Feb 2

Anybody who says Dems don't have "economic priorities" wasn't paying any fucking attention to Harris and Walz... Either that or they get all their news from Faux

valleyrogue

(1,617 posts)
18. WHO is "many"? These people NEVER vote Democratic regardless.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:17 PM
Feb 2

These are racists and sexists. Trump gives them permission to unleash their inner bigot.

They are unsalvageable. They are about to learn the hard way their precious GOP doesn't give a shit about anything other than Reverse Robin Hood, the ONLY issue the party has cared about since the Reagan years and "trickle on" economics.

Nanjeanne

(5,571 posts)
20. It's not a question of whether it's true -- it's about PERCEPTION. And this is where
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:25 PM
Feb 2

Democrats seem to miss the point. Too much time arguing but Dems do care about the economy and the price of eggs, too much time blaming voters for being too dumb to know they care and not enough time creating their own Project 2025 with bold plans and crafting a cohesive message. I don’t care that some voters are too stupid to know better. I care that the party I joined more than 50 years ago is no longer seen as the party of FDR.

valleyrogue

(1,617 posts)
32. WRONG. Completely and totally WRONG.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:43 PM
Feb 2

These people who voted for Trump are unsalvageable. They can't be reached because what drives them IS racism and sexism.

It has been this way since the "hardhats" of the 1960s.

These people ARE stupid, and the blame needs to fall squarely on them.

I can't believe the naivete of people around here who think it is about "perception" and "messaging."

JFC on a cracker. They will NEVER vote Democratic, understand?

Nanjeanne

(5,571 posts)
41. I'm not trying to salvage any Trump voters. I don't expect any Trump voter to vote for a Dem.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:02 PM
Feb 2

JFC you misunderstand everything I wrote and the information presented in how Dems are perceived. I’ve never been behind the idea that Ds should court R votes. I hated how the Harris campaign went from picking a progressive like Walz to muzzling him and courting Liz Chaney. I’m talking about how voters have become disenfranchised and the perception of the party has changed and in order to win we should be doing outreach to the non voters and the disgruntled voters.

But hey thanks for sharing your insights and commentary. When I read such extraordinary perceptive winning ways I know the Democrats will continue on their winning streak.

Elessar Zappa

(16,295 posts)
44. If you're correct, then I guess you must believe Democrats can't ever win again.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:21 PM
Feb 2

We have to flip voters or else we lose and keep losing.

spooky3

(36,887 posts)
57. We have to focus on the people who are misinformed and
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:43 PM
Feb 2

Those who didn’t vote. The hard core racists etc. can’t be won over until their personal ox is gored.

Ping Tung

(1,625 posts)
22. Human rights, common decency, and civilization are what steer my votes.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:32 PM
Feb 2

Some statements called "platitudes" are pretty good guides for life.

"First, do no harm"
"Live and let live"
"Play nice"

I will not vote for those who embrace torture, the death penalty, banning birth control or abortion, denying basic human rights for people of certain ethnicity's or sexual identities.

I will bend on many issuers but there are limits.





Raven123

(6,316 posts)
30. The GOP successfully framed the Democratic Party.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:41 PM
Feb 2

Dems have been playing defense on social issues, instead of just calling out the GOP and pivoting to the economic issues.

RockRaven

(16,811 posts)
34. Many also say that TCF is a good businessman and Edolf is an engineering genius.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:46 PM
Feb 2

And those statements are delusional bullshit. People say all sorts of nonsense all of the time.

Do Democrats need to do a better job getting people to vote for them? Yes, of course. Obviously.

Does that mean people are correctly identifying what Democrats need to do or not do to get their votes? If the track record of the American public's self-awareness is any guide, probably not.

The respondents said the economy, inflation, and health care were top issues and voted for the guy whose stated plans would clearly make those worse, and against those whose plans would clearly make those better. So either the public is terminally stupid, or they are full of shit about their priorities. That is the question whose answer tells Democrats how to act going forward.

Klarkashton

(2,818 posts)
35. Instead of focusing on tariffs and rounding up
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:48 PM
Feb 2

School children and letting out J6 criminals.

The WP must have some great suggestions
.

Dave says

(5,008 posts)
37. Democrats can walk and chew gum at the same time
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:52 PM
Feb 2

Part of our problem is the oligarchs that control the 5 mega-firms that own 90%+ of the major media controls messaging that at best furthers their agenda, but certainly does not harm their agenda, to control the masses.

 

Hitorque

(254 posts)
39. "Dems are out of touch with the middle class....
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 02:54 PM
Feb 2

...so I'm voting for a criminal and his cadre of billionaires!" Is such a weird flex.

bucolic_frolic

(48,483 posts)
40. We used interest groups to motivate our base
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:00 PM
Feb 2

We didn't need to lead with LGBTQ in 2016, 2020, and 2024. Tolerance and freedom would have been universal and more subtle.

Health care, Democrats didn't deliver???? If not for Democrats there would be no health care. Obamacare.

Immigration???? Can't wait to see home repairs without roofers and landscaping, restaurants without busboys, fast food without workers.

Life is going down the tube here. It won't just be about cost. Availability - supply - is in doubt too.

elleng

(137,954 posts)
42. Seems that 'their' priorities are like those of everywhere: VARIED.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 03:08 PM
Feb 2

Demanding concensus is mistaken, and likely won't ever occur.

How about agreeing to disagree, and finding leaders smart enough to handle such.

Shermann

(8,800 posts)
52. Another example of right-wing disinformation and propaganda at work.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:34 PM
Feb 2

Democrats get to choose their own priorities, not Republicans for them. Republicans glued Kamala to the sex change for inmates issue and puffed it up to seem like it was her signature issue and a pillar of her platform. It was little more than an off-hand statement she made long before she was the presidential candidate.

andym

(5,831 posts)
53. Most of the time in the USA it's the economy that dominates elections
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:36 PM
Feb 2

Clinton beat Bush by understanding that "It's the economy, stupid."

alarimer

(16,797 posts)
58. I mean, I don't think Democrats can sacrifice abortion rights for some kind of economic message.
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 05:53 PM
Feb 2

That's more than half the country thrown under the bus in the name of cheaper eggs.

But also the Biden administration did a LOT and got shit on for it by the right, constantly, incessantly.

The news media is pro-GOP. ALL of it. Biden is old, feeble, etc. And Trump is not old and feeble, somehow?

Not buying it.

The Democrats could obviously do better. They should be calling for things like Medicare for All (or some kind of true universal health), some kind of basic income maybe. But mostly, STOP LISTENING TO CONSULTANTS. Just stop with the focus-grouped nonsense. Stop caring more about your next election and being a corporate toady. Stop putting your thumb on the scale against progressives. That is the single biggest turnoff for me, at least.

Who decided Walz should stop calling them "weird" and to stop being himself? That was a grave error. Also, who the fuck cares about Liz Cheney? Enough with trying to cozy up to disaffected Republicans. Stop doing that.

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