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gab13by13

(26,278 posts)
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:11 PM Feb 1

Only One Thing Made Trump Back Down So Far

When Trump froze federal funding the American people raised holy hell, and some of them were unwashed Magats. Trump backed the fuck down because of people power, not because a judge temporarily lifted the freeze.

Congressional Democrats, I will start donating to you again if you start doing town halls across the country. Tell the people what Project 2025 will do to them. The people will come, the MSM will come, but....as I said many times before....Time Matters.

Trump plans to ignore the courts and no one will stop him except we the people in masse.

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Only One Thing Made Trump Back Down So Far (Original Post) gab13by13 Feb 1 OP
He might have backed down, but he couldn't cut funding enacted by Congress with EOs. Doesn't mean he won't try to Silent Type Feb 1 #1
We need action on both fronts. Nt spooky3 Feb 1 #2
Yes, raise holy hell on all fronts. Citizens are responsible for their own freedoms. Magoo48 Feb 1 #34
I once read that we get the government we deserve. BattleRow Feb 1 #35
H.L. Mencken think4yourself Feb 1 #44
I'm amazed at how many of my favorite quotes are Mencken. BattleRow Feb 1 #58
George Carlin paraphrased that too Lucky Luciano Feb 1 #56
Carlin..an American prophet to be sure. BattleRow Feb 1 #57
More like: DENVERPOPS Feb 1 #60
He didn't back down. He just rescinded the memo. Irish_Dem Feb 1 #3
Court date on 3rd for this. Bluethroughu Feb 1 #7
Do you think Trump will obey a court order? Irish_Dem Feb 1 #14
It seems to have helped stop him so far. Nt spooky3 Feb 1 #53
Unlike his hero, Trump has the Supreme Court in the oligarchs' pocket. Marcuse Feb 1 #59
How about DENVERPOPS Feb 1 #61
And what will be the mechanism to enforce any adverse court rulings when finally handed down? sop Feb 2 #65
I am sure the FBI and DOJ will be right on it. Irish_Dem Feb 2 #66
I guarantee, at least for now, gab13by13 Feb 1 #8
Yep, they say whatever appeases in the momernt with no intent to actuaqlly follow through. They KPN Feb 1 #24
How is that not backing down if he rescinded the memo? Dem4life1234 Feb 1 #37
The freeze is still in place. Irish_Dem Feb 1 #50
Yes, but hearings are scheduled this week. Let's see what happens. Nt spooky3 Feb 1 #54
Should be interesting. Irish_Dem Feb 1 #55
"Trump plans to ignore the courts and no one will stop him except we the people in masse." J_William_Ryan Feb 1 #4
He will ignore the people orangecrush Feb 1 #18
It's an incoherent mess underpants Feb 1 #5
K&R Think. Again. Feb 1 #6
The Republican party is complicit. Bluethroughu Feb 1 #9
Yes, and our own Democratic leadership is too quiet also. Think. Again. Feb 1 #10
I Agree! Bluethroughu Feb 1 #12
NOW!!! Think. Again. Feb 1 #13
The courts have the power, on paper, like Trump's wealth. Trump will ignore any process of law twodogsbarking Feb 1 #11
Widespread economic boycott is safest.... Think. Again. Feb 1 #15
If you are safe orangecrush Feb 1 #17
I think safe is meant in keeping the noise up without causing in the streets protests which you know he will PortTack Feb 1 #21
That IS what I meant, thank you. Think. Again. Feb 1 #22
Welcome! PortTack Feb 1 #46
The Civil Rights Movenent orangecrush Feb 1 #30
Very true. Think. Again. Feb 1 #31
anything effective anyway ... KPN Feb 1 #27
This risk aversion orangecrush Feb 1 #38
Agree... I was out yesterday stocking up on non perishable groceries and toiletries...the stores were quiet PortTack Feb 1 #19
Good luck with that. What are people going to boycott that will rattle the Trump Crime syndicate KPN Feb 1 #26
Anything that affects the major corporations... Think. Again. Feb 1 #32
VERY homegirl Feb 1 #33
Yes, this is certainly an important part of resistance. Magoo48 Feb 2 #64
He's fucking "immune" -- until a couple of SC justices decide to fall on their swords -- which is KPN Feb 1 #25
Then lock his ass up Dem4life1234 Feb 1 #39
The federal judges in several districts ordering the suspension spooky3 Feb 1 #52
Kick to the roof orangecrush Feb 1 #16
Sort of like this hannah Feb 1 #29
Thanks orangecrush Feb 1 #40
Why do you need congressional democrats to do it ? JI7 Feb 1 #20
We need ALL Pro-Democracy Americans to do it. Think. Again. Feb 1 #23
People power & don't forget MONEY Nigrum Cattus Feb 1 #28
His freeze caused havoc in red states (as well as blue) and their reps heard it from those affected loud and clear andym Feb 1 #36
PROJECT 2025 joanbarnes Feb 1 #41
Yes Yes Yes To Town Hall People Power Rendville Feb 1 #42
I am with you on this! nt Jit423 Feb 1 #43
This is what I've been saying for the last 20 years! ananda Feb 1 #45
I'm beginning to figure out what the workable strategy can be. Trust_Reality Feb 1 #47
Leaders Jeffries and Schumer and Martin bronxiteforever Feb 1 #48
Agreed Evolve Dammit Feb 1 #49
He didn't back down. choie Feb 1 #51
Yep, he's not done PatSeg Feb 1 #62
I think that they are going to do it another way though Meowmee Feb 1 #63
I agree with most of that, but can we drop referring to Project 2025? The public doesn't understand it, summer_in_TX Feb 2 #67

Silent Type

(8,149 posts)
1. He might have backed down, but he couldn't cut funding enacted by Congress with EOs. Doesn't mean he won't try to
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:14 PM
Feb 1

do it with legislation at some point.

Magoo48

(5,843 posts)
34. Yes, raise holy hell on all fronts. Citizens are responsible for their own freedoms.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:32 PM
Feb 1

We must demand them; we must demand freedom from fascist incursions. And, that demand must come from hundreds of thousands of voices all at raised in unison. This is not a time for timidity.

DENVERPOPS

(10,677 posts)
61. How about
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 08:46 PM
Feb 1

The USSC is a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Corporation.....(they no longer can be called the Republican PARTY....)

KPN

(16,342 posts)
24. Yep, they say whatever appeases in the momernt with no intent to actuaqlly follow through. They
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:00 PM
Feb 1

have zero integrity or trustworthiness.

Dem4life1234

(2,401 posts)
37. How is that not backing down if he rescinded the memo?
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:56 PM
Feb 1

He would be a fool to continue this action.

This is not making America great, only hurting people including his illiterate MAGAts who depend on those services.

Irish_Dem

(63,389 posts)
50. The freeze is still in place.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 03:08 PM
Feb 1

He is not being foolish, he knows no one can or will touch him.

He is free to commit as many crimes as he wants.

J_William_Ryan

(2,412 posts)
4. "Trump plans to ignore the courts and no one will stop him except we the people in masse."
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:18 PM
Feb 1

Trump will ignore the people as well.

These are the consequences when democracy fails; the people brought this on themselves.

underpants

(188,439 posts)
5. It's an incoherent mess
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:22 PM
Feb 1

Aside from any consideration as to how all these EO’s will actually affect people (they don’t give a rip) they haven’t even considered how one EO affects other EO’s.

The crash presser was a disaster.
They said tariffs are starting today….abd then March 1….then No it’s today
They released water just thinking it will all go south because of map.
Mr. All knowing and all powerful is now claiming he had nothing to do with the purges at FBI and Justice.

Bluethroughu

(6,749 posts)
9. The Republican party is complicit.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:39 PM
Feb 1

They know the plan. That's why they were having their orangey at fart-a-stinko.

The republicons are not going to do anything, they are Kompromat.

twodogsbarking

(12,604 posts)
11. The courts have the power, on paper, like Trump's wealth. Trump will ignore any process of law
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:41 PM
Feb 1

to make himself above the law. Stopping him in the courts may be a fantasy. Now what?

Think. Again.

(21,382 posts)
15. Widespread economic boycott is safest....
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:44 PM
Feb 1

....and once the corporations start feeling the pinch to their profits, they will start reeling him in.

PortTack

(35,200 posts)
21. I think safe is meant in keeping the noise up without causing in the streets protests which you know he will
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:52 PM
Feb 1

Send infiltrators to cause violence. Then he has his reason to declare martial law

PortTack

(35,200 posts)
19. Agree... I was out yesterday stocking up on non perishable groceries and toiletries...the stores were quiet
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:51 PM
Feb 1

The whole thing with gas going up, heating oil and natural gas maybe holding him back. One expert I follow on oil and gas says gas will immediately go up 50-75 cents and that just for starters.

Think. Again.

(21,382 posts)
32. Anything that affects the major corporations...
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:19 PM
Feb 1

...will move them to start badgering trump.

He may think he's all powerful because the major corporations don't bother with small potatoes like him, but if his actions start cutting into their profits, they will let him know to change it up.

KPN

(16,342 posts)
25. He's fucking "immune" -- until a couple of SC justices decide to fall on their swords -- which is
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:04 PM
Feb 1

doubtful so long as their personal lives and family lives are not adversely affected.

spooky3

(36,887 posts)
52. The federal judges in several districts ordering the suspension
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 04:44 PM
Feb 1

Of the exec order on grants etc probably did as much to stop him as anything else. Let’s see what happens when full hearings take place.

hannah

(206 posts)
29. Sort of like this
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:13 PM
Feb 1

Sort of like this as our rallying cry. “ Kick it to the roof” Has a good sound like all fired up and ready to go. Yes?

JI7

(91,294 posts)
20. Why do you need congressional democrats to do it ?
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 12:52 PM
Feb 1

the people that attend will be partisan types mostly.

The reason the right wing is effective is they so things outside of political spaces.

This is where we are hurting. Also they still think the most important issues are lies about transgender people and similar bs.

andym

(5,831 posts)
36. His freeze caused havoc in red states (as well as blue) and their reps heard it from those affected loud and clear
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 01:45 PM
Feb 1

that's why he backed off.

Rendville

(68 posts)
42. Yes Yes Yes To Town Hall People Power
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 02:23 PM
Feb 1

You are right. Stay on it. We The People. Even The Wake The F Up MAGAS. Are going to have to scream loud and long wherever we feel the Pinch. Because he is pinching every penny he can steal, beg or borrow. Bankruptcy for USA, for Canada, for Mexico. That is his plan. Not for Putin or CCP because they are paying him off to do their bidding.

ananda

(31,207 posts)
45. This is what I've been saying for the last 20 years!
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 02:41 PM
Feb 1

There is no political savior.

We, en masse, have to save this country!

Trust_Reality

(2,002 posts)
47. I'm beginning to figure out what the workable strategy can be.
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 02:48 PM
Feb 1

Yes, our Dem senators and reps need to hear from us, but...

Those who REALLY need to hear from the people are R senators and reps. If you have R senators or reps, let them hear from you loud and clear. T Rump will surely need them at times.

I have two Dem senators and Lauren Boebert as a rep. I'm still debating whether to bother contacting that stupid twit.

But what I can do is donate money to Dems and action networks.

Of course, I can also do what I can to boycott the profiteers.

PatSeg

(49,840 posts)
62. Yep, he's not done
Sat Feb 1, 2025, 10:52 PM
Feb 1

He'll come back with possibly a different approach, whatever his puppet masters tell him to do.

He didn't back down, he just pressed pause.

summer_in_TX

(3,427 posts)
67. I agree with most of that, but can we drop referring to Project 2025? The public doesn't understand it,
Sun Feb 2, 2025, 06:40 PM
Feb 2

most never heard of it in spite of all we did to get the word out, because they don't like politics and were avoiding it with entertainment.

It's too esoteric, we need to stick to what it is doing to people.

The job losses in the federal government mean not being able to make ends meet, to make mortgage or rent payments, loss of homes, of stability and the American dream, and will lead to failed marriages and divorce in many cases as depression and numbing the pain are common reactions to loss of the ability to provide. A large portion of those employees and their families are likely to fall into poverty. They won't have the spending money that helps keep the economy afloat, so small businesses will begin hemorrhaging money and will have to shutter their doors.



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