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Baron2024

(675 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:02 AM Monday

Underestimating Trump

It is a mistake to underestimate Trump. People laughed when he announced in 2015. I remember George Stephenopoulos laughing and saying "he will never be President". Well, everyone that thought that was wrong. He has now been elected to the Presidency twice. He is better prepared and surrounded by dedicated, life-long Fascists who have been planning for this their entire lives.

This is a dangerous and organized Fascist Regime and they are not going to be stopped by platitudes and wishful thinking. Trump is dumb but cunning. Mussolini was like that as well, and that is not coincidence. The Trump MAGA Fascist Regime is only going to be stopped by an organized and strong counter-operation. Hope is important but it must be tempered by realism.

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Underestimating Trump (Original Post) Baron2024 Monday OP
May he end up EXACTLY the same as Il Duce (n/t) Moostache Monday #1
And soon. dchill Monday #5
Giving Up Guarantees Defeat Baron2024 Monday #2
By 'Trump' we're not referring to the individual, who is an ignoramus and fool. J_William_Ryan Monday #3
Terms Baron2024 Monday #4
It's also a mistake Morbius Monday #6
Good Point Baron2024 Monday #7
Absolutely correct! Morbius. Buddyzbuddy Monday #8
Nobody underestimates tRump more than maga. Underestimate his penchant for feeding his face-eating leopards Bernardo de La Paz Monday #9

Baron2024

(675 posts)
2. Giving Up Guarantees Defeat
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:04 AM
Monday

We need to believe that it is possible to defeat Trump. If we don't, we are definitely going to lose. We must mount a vigorous and organized counter-operation. If we lose, at least we will go out fighting. If you are defeated by your own mind before you even start to fight back, then you will definitely lose. It is time to turn up our courage, unite with our fellow Americans, and fight.

J_William_Ryan

(2,374 posts)
3. By 'Trump' we're not referring to the individual, who is an ignoramus and fool.
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 02:59 AM
Monday

By ‘Trump’ we’re referring to his henchmen and sycophants who ran his campaign and now run the Oval Office, as well as the partisan hacks who prop up his regime and populate his administration.

And yes, Trump’s is a dangerous, authoritarian fascist regime.

Baron2024

(675 posts)
4. Terms
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:06 AM
Monday

Yeah, I try to call his henchmen the Trump MAGA Regime to make that clearer. If you just say Trump when you mean his entire gang some people may not understand you mean the entire group.

Morbius

(181 posts)
6. It's also a mistake
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:22 AM
Monday

to think Donald Trump is the problem.

Donald Trump is a symptom of the problem.

Donald Trump is going to die someday. I know, some here hope it is soon, and I won't get into that. But it is inevitable; everyone dies. But the fascist movement he has stirred up won't die with him.

Baron2024

(675 posts)
7. Good Point
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 03:28 AM
Monday

But if Trump had a heart attack tonight and kicked the bucket it might take some of the wind out of the sails of the MAGA Movement. JD Vance would of course be a dangerous President but he is a charisma vacuum and will not command as much devotion as the MAGA Trump Cult. And it is in many ways a personality cult focused on Trump. So if Trump exited this world I think it would slow down the MAGAs. But Vance would still be in charge of a Fascist Regime and we would still be in a very serious situation.

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,062 posts)
9. Nobody underestimates tRump more than maga. Underestimate his penchant for feeding his face-eating leopards
Mon Jan 27, 2025, 06:42 AM
Monday

They think they are immune.

Wait till the first maga US citizen is deported ... since ICE is making mistakes and doesn't have much (any?) oversight.
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