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Baron2024

(675 posts)
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 08:10 PM Sunday

Relevant Excerpt From The Declaration Of Independence

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. That, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That, whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

Our lives, our liberties, and our pursuit of happiness are being threatened by this rogue fascist regime. We have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government. If they are going to subvert the law, violate the Constitution, and destroy our government, we have the right to resist and to establish a new government. We are the people and we do not consent to this false and despotic regime.

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Relevant Excerpt From The Declaration Of Independence (Original Post) Baron2024 Sunday OP
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Sunday #1
Or to put it in briefer form: liberty and justice FOR ALL. paulkienitz Sunday #2
Business As Usual Baron2024 Sunday #3
Kick this! defacto7 Sunday #4
Tell that to ReRe Sunday #6
K&R defacto7 Sunday #5
As Timothy Snyder says, "Freedom from" is a conceptual trap. It's also a political trap in that it involves self-decep- ancianita Sunday #7

paulkienitz

(1,364 posts)
2. Or to put it in briefer form: liberty and justice FOR ALL.
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:26 PM
Sunday

I pledged my allegiance to a nation with liberty and justice for all. If that nation denies that liberty and that justice, I do not owe it allegiance.

Baron2024

(675 posts)
3. Business As Usual
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 10:30 PM
Sunday

Regarding the First Amendment and Politics as Usual-

Business as usual is not going to work. Trump has already called the Press "The Enemy of the People". He is going to try and shut down the media and he will probably arrest any members of the media that speak out against him. But they MUST speak out against him NOW before the Press is silenced.

Any attempt to shut down the Press or to arrest a Member of the Press is ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. It is a violation of the First Amendment (Freedom of the Press) and the Fourth Amendment (Illegal search and seizure, ie an illegal arrest). Trump and his Regime are in VIOLATION of the Constitution. Trump has rendered his authority null and void. He has taken an Oath to defend the Constitution and he has REPEATEDLY violated it. Trump's Presidency has therefore been rendered illegal and is in violation of the Constitution.

All Blue Patriots who took an Oath to defend the Constitution must act now to defend it. Any member of the military or law enforcement that is given an ILLEGAL or UNCONSTITUTIONAL order must resist such an order. Resistance of an illegal order is itself legal. Execution of an illegal order renders one's authority null and void. Any soldier or cop that executes an illegal order no longer has any authority.

In any case, a neutral Press in the face of a Fascist Regime is not going to work. The FACT is that this is an UNCONSTITUTIONAL REGIME and the Press MUST report that BECAUSE IT IS A FACT. Hiding behind a cloak of neutrality is cowardice and if the entire Press does it then the Country and the Constitution are doomed. Now is the time for true patriots to stand up and fight back, loudly and in the Media BEFORE the Press is silenced by this ILLEGAL FASCIST REGIME--- THE PRESS MUST SPEAK UP NOW BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

ReRe

(11,056 posts)
6. Tell that to
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 11:22 PM
Sunday

ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN CNBC, NPR, etc.
They will say "We ARE speaking up against this illegal fascist regime!"
When we all know they are not.
What do we do when our media won't do it's job for the people?

ancianita

(39,260 posts)
7. As Timothy Snyder says, "Freedom from" is a conceptual trap. It's also a political trap in that it involves self-decep-
Sun Jan 26, 2025, 11:25 PM
Sunday

tion, contains no program for its own realization, and offers no end of opportunities for tyrants.

There are already many countries in the world freer than ours. The American organization, Freedom House, says that by the measures Americans prefer -- civil and political liberties -- 50 countries do better than us on these measures.

The countries where people tend to think of freedom as freedom to are doing better by our own measures, which tend to focus on freedom from. Think about that. Political systems that are oriented toward freedom to are doing better than we are on freedom from. Which suggests that freedom to comes first...

If we don't think of freedom as positive, we won't even get freedom in the negative sense, since we will be unable to tell what is in fact a barrier, how barriers can be taken in hand and become tools, and how tools extend our freedom..."

I'm only 31 pages in, but I gotta say

Read. This. Book.




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