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America is down > 100,000,000 chickens

My 404 Error comment was a cheeky commentary on the communications blackout imposed on the CDC/NIH (etc.)

It’s a really big deal that we’re essentially flying blind on this at a moment when we need diligent monitoring and research…

One barn at one farm is 80,000,
the losses are in the millions..

How often does your family eat chicken? Have you read the ingredients in you dog's kibble? Chicken for the table and chicken meal for pet food will increase costs considerable. Then, when chicken prices go up, other meats will go up.

Oh, and the price of lentils has increase a lot lately.

Want protein? Pretty soon you won't be able to afford it, unless you eat republicans.

gets rid of the gaminess.

A very "Modest Proposal". We can do this Swiftly.

million killed by last July.

want everything unregulated.

And the general public kept in the dark.

I accidentally clicked on a channel on tv, and lord behold it was I believed it was the Ted nugent show and what he said was truly stupid and freighting - you don’t need books, you can learn what you need to know by learning the surroundings (something like that), and I shut off the tv.

why he makes such absolutely stupid remarks.

who have always treated book reading as unmanly and unnecessary.

Maybe I should buy fireproof safes and put books in them.

Knowledge of the Mother Goddess needs to be preserved for a future generation of women.

I hope Circle Sanctuary is doing something along those lines.

It's not after all like these chickens are interacting across the country nearly as fast as people did to spread COVID or other viruses as they are in enclosed spaces aren't they?

"This winter, the virus has spread beyond poultry, spilling into dairy herds. Hundreds of infected herds have been linked to contaminated raw milk, which spreads through farmers' clothing, equipment, and other animals shared between farms."

One would think barn raised chickens would be safer but sanitation is a problem.

Commercial poultry facilities (factory farms) are horrible for the health of the chickens. They're crammed into small cages, the air is dusty, the feces pile up under the cage rows so the air often reeks of ammonia. The health of the birds can be marginal at best. So any kind of 'bug' that comes by finds a population just waiting to be infected without strong resistance to them.

I know that these facilities vary from state to state, some worse than others. So the above doesn't apply to all of the farms. But if you just think about the numbers killed that are being talked about--hundreds of millions--those are not cage free birds roaming around nice green pastures. Just by logistics they have to be crammed in together in endless cage rows in barns to manage those kinds of numbers.

Can spread it. Wild birds are around chicken farms, small songbirds get in and out of the sheds quite easily, some migrate.


At our county seat their is a quiet pigeon eradication going on as the town pigeons have some kind of infectious something that is other than avian flu. In fact, having spoken with a state agency biologist about it a couple months ago, there are two other viral diseases in this and the next county over that they are monitoring. I had called to report that there was a location with a literal pile of dead birds. The eradication began a few days later. It's gross.

It will be interesting to see how little info we get from our government in Magatana these days. The legislature is in session trying to destroy the state again. They do this every two years. At least more Dems were elected so there's no magat super majority but it's small consolation since it's way too late to keep the magats from fucking up the entire regional ecosystem.

Don't know what the answers are anymore, just hope for something big to change things in a good way.

If you keep a small flock of chickens, you will see wild birds in the pens stealing their feed. This also brings them into contact with chickens, if any of the wild birds are sick, your chickens will be too. People need to change their ways of keeping chickens. They need to use fine mesh wire for the pens, like rabbit wire, so the wild birds can’t get into the pens and they need to be covered with tin or some kind of cover so when the birds fly over no dropping will fall into the pen.

aNd rEGulATioNs iS BaD.

So says MAGA.

Your home flock. For those in the industrial food complex, yes. Though I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to blame it on home flock keepers, just so they could ban us from doing it! That would definitely keep prices high.

Even people in cities in apartments and small homes could do a container garden. Some people in apartments could even keep a couple of chickens. There are small coops that are built for apartments, I would say you couldn’t keep a rooster though. They crow very early and that annoys people, who normally wouldn’t even notice. You don’t need a rooster to have eggs though. Hens lay eggs anyway, just not hatchable eggs.

...after the collapse of the USSR. This was known (somewhat euphemistically) as the "Special Period", where they experimented with urban agriculture. Some of the more successful experiments continue today. The lessons learned from that time are now being applied to urban gardening and agricultural planning in this country as well.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Survivalism#Cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organop%C3%B3nicos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Period

for high egg prices.

Ben Ghaziii

A deadly bird flu outbreak has wreaked havoc on U.S. chicken farms, claiming the lives of over 20 million egg-laying chickens last quarter, marking the worst impact on America's egg supply since the outbreak began in 2022.

So the number is probably higher.

https://www.gjsentinel.com/lifestyle/health_and_wellness/bird-flu-kills-20-million-chickens-in-u-s-driving-egg-prices-sky-high/article_3458ac61-72a5-5c1c-97aa-fcbc728f72e1.html]

* in 2022 40 million chicken were killed.

* any new chicks hatched take 18-22 weeks before they lay an egg.

Stability in the market place is going to take months.

is not something new. It's a common occurrence.

What makes it so devastating, is our egg production model maintains large flocks of birds together in relatively small spaces. You gain some economic benefit by scaling up but the flip side is the system can occasionally be subjected to catastrophic loss. I think I've seen it takes about 6 months to get a chick large enough to lay eggs.

There are some precautions farmers can take to prevent the spread but those measures cost more and may reduce egg yield. I remember seeing a piece about the differences between US and European chicken farms many years ago. Hygienic practices in Europe seemed much better than in the US but I'm not sure if this holds up today.

You'd think egg producers would adopt preventive measures to avoid catastrophic loss on their own but I suspect there's no real financial incentive to do so.

Egg prices in my neck of the woods were $6+/dozen at the grocery store and $4+/dozen at the local farmers market. The grocery store appears to be supplied from the Midwest, while the farmers market gets their eggs from more local sources. My wife's manager has chickens and used to sell them for $3.50/dozen. He didn't come in with any this week because he's selling all of what he has to his church members. BOTTOM LINE, SHOP AROUND FOR THE BEST PRICE.

The Felon and mendacious repube komrades will solve this problem by squelching all further news

"Ignorance is bliss." - new G.O.P. slogan

Most fed sites have been stripped of reliable information

That could change the orange shit gibbon is really dismal at any crisis involving science or common sense.

As of mid December, 464 people globally had died from bird flu. Death rate of 49% in humans. So far only one person has died in the US, but it's gonna happen with science deniers in control.

right now, to get ahead of the next pandemic. He said in 2020 that if we just didn't report the cases then the pandemic would "go away." So they are cutting off their ability to communicate with each other and the public.

It is going to be a mess when the H5N1 virus finally mutates to pass person-to-person. It's likely to make COVID-19 look like child's play.

plus nominating an idiot like RFK, Jr to be in charge of HHS, and Dr. Quack... er, Oz... to be in charge of Medicare. Let bird flu run rampant, don't approve vaccines, and many of the troublesome people will disappear.

and there was a printed notice by the egg section that announced a "shortage of eggs" from their suppliers and most of that refrigerated section was empty except for a few cartons (I guess some specialty brands and local suppliers).

Philly reported its first confirmed instance of bird (avian) flu in a snow goose (I don't usually see many of those as we mostly have those Canada geese), although none detected in the egg/poultry operations yet in the state (or backyard flocks), but it has been found in wild birds (like those snow geese) upstate.

Fresh White Eggs Large Grade A.
1 Dozen.
12 Eggs.

Northern Virginia

In 2020, the average price of regular gasoline in the United States was $2.17 per gallon. This was a 17% decrease from 2019, and the lowest annual average since 2016

Explanation

The COVID-19 pandemic caused a reduction in passenger travel and demand for gasoline.
State-mandated stay-at-home orders and international travel restrictions also decreased fuel demand.

week got an 18-egg carton for $7.99. They weren't out of date, either.

Usually buy 18 egg carton but noticed the prices yesterday. $7.99 for 18 or $4.79 for 12. My math said the dozen price was cheaper so put two dozen in cart. When I got home and looked at receipt it seems only one got rung up, BOGO!

... deliberately chose to become Pox News Lite, and now they're paying for it. The Vichy puppet version of sanitized, spoon-fed news.

but for one dozen broken ones. Got a dozen Egg Lands Best large eggs for $3.69.

Kinda doubt it.

For my flight back to the US. I may bring in a suitcase of eggs to sell on the black market😉😉

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and the basic laws of economics 101. And critical thinking. Don Henley wrote a song about them years ago. They haven't changed. Yapping, empty heads.

What fucking liberal media?

They are a part to blame for this mess. A huge part .

I want out of this era, can we go back to the 90s?

Prince’s 1999 was prophetic.

Like literally, started with the Bush Gore fiasco 2000 and now here we are!

Not the first time egg prices soared because of this, but it wasn't a year ago that they were culling huge flocks of chix when some prices.

At the same time, the riposte is, "Yes, but instead of telling us that it was avian flu we were told it was greedflation caused by price-gouging avian-master overlords."

We say human owner of the producers, they say it's our politicians' fault, and now, suddenly, it's because the actual producers are being slaughtered.

Hey, bright side--chicken prices at my local store were down 50c/lb. (And, yes, I'm going to cook that well and wash my hands well after handling the raw meat.)

They figured that out on their own? Just amazing! 🙄🙄🙄🙄 Sarcasm intended.

No problems. K. I. G. Knowledge is good. DU has smart people (not me).

Unfortunately, for folks attempting to decipher my writing, our department was chaired by a radical deconstructionist, and to make matters worse, we all liked and admired him.

Yes, I use the term "gonna."

but upon opening my wallet I found less than $20 in it.

on.

We all know what's going to happen next. Trump will tell the CDC and FDA to stop testing the chickens for Avian Flu; and then tell the CDC to stop reporting any cases of zoonotic influenza that humans get from the infected eggs.

(Perception) Problem solved.

A noticeable smaller bottle and made of plastic rather than glass.

It ain't just eggs!

Check it out!

> 100 million chickens from Avian Influenza made a rise in the cost of eggs a given. And our “liberal
media” aka republican corporate controlled propaganda pushed the narrative.

Agencies that are scientific based. Wait for Fox to blame President a Biden for not stopping the avian flu in 3-2 -1..

Please just die CNN. You’re not helping anyone.

HE DOESN'T GIVE A FUCK

That can make a difference