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Swede

(35,142 posts) Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:16 AM Saturday

"It was a Roman salute."

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"It was a Roman salute." (Original Post) Swede Saturday OP

Akin to saying the Nazi Swatika is really the Hindu religious sacred symbol no_hypocrisy Saturday #1

I learned about this right here on DU Mosby Saturday #7

Well, the fascists and nazis adapted it from Rome...nt Wounded Bear Saturday #2

There's no evidence in the historical record that a salute of this kind was ever used in Roman culture Prairie Gates Saturday #3

No, it goes back further then that EX500rider Saturday #4

Curious-do you know if these soldiers pounded their hearts first?? riversedge Saturday #5

That is the way it has been portrayed in many films EX500rider Saturday #6

You mean like so many neo nazis do these days? Think. Again. Saturday #9

Sure, but there's no record of it actually being used in ancient Rome Prairie Gates Saturday #10

I've always wondered why Nazis got all the infamous credit for that salute Polybius Saturday #11

Yeah, sure it was... Think. Again. Saturday #8

no_hypocrisy

(49,759 posts)

1. Akin to saying the Nazi Swatika is really the Hindu religious sacred symbol

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:21 AM

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Mosby

(17,928 posts)

7. I learned about this right here on DU

Reply to no_hypocrisy (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 12:03 PM

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Not just now, years ago.

Wounded Bear

(61,099 posts)

2. Well, the fascists and nazis adapted it from Rome...nt

Reply to Swede (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:36 AM

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Prairie Gates

(3,799 posts)

3. There's no evidence in the historical record that a salute of this kind was ever used in Roman culture

Reply to Wounded Bear (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:39 AM

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It was invented by Italian fascists in the 1920s and attributed to ancient Rome because they had an ancient Rome fetish.

Il saluto romano is a completely modern fascist gesture.

EX500rider

(11,693 posts)

4. No, it goes back further then that

Reply to Prairie Gates (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 25, 2025, 11:49 AM

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Originating from Jacques-Louis David's painting The Oath of the Horatii (1784), the gesture quickly developed a historically inaccurate association with Roman republican and imperial culture. The gesture and its identification with Roman culture were further developed in other neoclassic artworks.