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Contest? How many days before Hegseth (Original Post) DaBronx Friday OP
He is going to be scrutinized like a lab rat. Klarkashton Friday #1
The media will make every excuse JustAnotherGen Friday #8
+1 dalton99a Friday #10
They can try. They did this with Matt gertz or whatever Klarkashton Friday #12
The stress of the first crisis will drive the drunk to start drininn again. brush Friday #22
Why would this turn out any better than anything else Klarkashton Friday #26
Right, He drove two veteran groups he headed into disarray. brush Friday #28
It's pretty unbelievable. If there is one point Bob Woodward makes about Mike 03 Saturday #39
Yeah, leopards don't change their spots. This one will eat rethug faces though. brush Saturday #41
How many hours before he throws back a few? Sogo Friday #2
who can fire him? just trump? or who can make him resign? nt orleans Friday #3
Trump won't fire him for being a shitty SecDef, since that's guaranteed, Ocelot II Friday #14
Put a passive alcohol sensor in his office dalton99a Friday #4
Cmon let's see who can come closest DaBronx Friday #5
I say he's dancing outside nude with a lampshade on his head by 11 o'clock tomorrow night. n/t Harker Friday #6
I say he plunges into the Tidal Basin like Wilbur Mills with the latest incarnation of Fanne Foxe... Hekate Friday #19
Yes, this guy's dangerous in many ways. n/t Harker Friday #24
I'm going to go with assaulting a female officer. 58Sunliner Friday #25
Could be simultaneous. n/t Harker Friday #29
The only way he survives in his new role... EarthFirst Friday #7
I believe he's in recovery, and Tickle Friday #9
Who said he's in a real recovery? Klarkashton Friday #15
He said he'd quit drinking if he got the SecDef job. That doesn't sound like he's in recovery at all. Ocelot II Friday #18
He is an alcoholic -- and he lies. Hekate Friday #20
He looks like a real sociopath. I doubt much of anything hurts him. He acts like a dry drunk, if he isn't drinking. 58Sunliner Friday #21
How long orangecrush Friday #11
How long before Felon45 gives him illegal orders? jls4561 Friday #16
Install one of those breathalyzer things that they put in cars on the door to the Pentagon. jls4561 Friday #13
I think 34 is an excellent guess. I expect this whole house of cards to start falling down very early. Midnight Writer Friday #17
I'll hope for 60 days or less. 58Sunliner Friday #23
After the first crisis in the middle of the night, he will drink a bottle of vodka and service members will die, surfered Friday #27
I've heard Jaydog Friday #30
Y'all remember Rachel Maddow's big board of 2017? Maeve Friday #31
I remember🤓 DaBronx Friday #34
He'll be in the job for at least a year, probably two. onenote Friday #32
Wow that's quite generous! DaBronx Friday #35
Not trying to be "generous" - being a realist. onenote Friday #37
I say his entire term Polybius Friday #33
Update Jaydog Friday #36
He will stay there until we regain both houses RainCaster Friday #38
2-3 Scaramucci's Pachamama Saturday #40
Maybe he will be found passed out in a DC street gutter with a bottle of Scotch? Jacson6 Saturday #42
Until he's found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl. DavidDvorkin Saturday #43
Why would he? I don't understand the thinking here. BlueTsunami2018 Saturday #44

Klarkashton

(2,669 posts)
12. They can try. They did this with Matt gertz or whatever
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:56 PM
Friday

The assholes name was and it was so bad that even that didn't help.

brush

(58,593 posts)
22. The stress of the first crisis will drive the drunk to start drininn again.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:10 PM
Friday

What a dumb move by trump and the rethugs. He's going to have to be relieved of duty. It'll be either conflict with Denmark/NATO over Greenland, or Panama and China over the Panama Canal. And on top of the Greenland conflict, Russia will immediately try to expand westward with NATO having to defend Greenland.

It's gonna be a mess and the drunkard Sec'y of Defense won't be able to handle the stress.

Klarkashton

(2,669 posts)
26. Why would this turn out any better than anything else
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:12 PM
Friday

That utterly fucked up piece of shit ever did?

brush

(58,593 posts)
28. Right, He drove two veteran groups he headed into disarray.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:20 PM
Friday

It won't take long. And trump being the white supremacist he is will surely ask Sec'y Hedseth to get rid of the Joint Chiefs of Staff head who happens to be a four star Air Froce general, a Black man, which will be a mini crisis itself as the incompetent Defense sec'y will be temporarily lack the guidance an wisdow of the joint chief's hed.

Mike 03

(17,930 posts)
39. It's pretty unbelievable. If there is one point Bob Woodward makes about
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 05:34 AM
Saturday

Sec Defense in his last three books it is that there is no margin for error in what is a 24/7 job. General Mattis slept in his clothes for chrissakes, fearing he'd be called at any moment. They go through periods where they are lucky to get 3 hours of sleep!

Cameras will be everywhere. If there is evidence of him being shitfaced and incapacitated by drink and somebody at the Pentagon has the guts to leak it, we'll be seeing it shortly I assume!

brush

(58,593 posts)
41. Yeah, leopards don't change their spots. This one will eat rethug faces though.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 02:36 PM
Saturday

That is not.a job for a drunk.

Ocelot II

(122,388 posts)
14. Trump won't fire him for being a shitty SecDef, since that's guaranteed,
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:56 PM
Friday

but he'll fire him in a heartbeat if he does or says something that offends Himself in some way. And since Hogsbreath is a drunk, he's certain to do something personally offensive to Orange Foolius, like grope Melania or Ivanka.

Harker

(15,402 posts)
6. I say he's dancing outside nude with a lampshade on his head by 11 o'clock tomorrow night. n/t
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:52 PM
Friday

Hekate

(95,872 posts)
19. I say he plunges into the Tidal Basin like Wilbur Mills with the latest incarnation of Fanne Foxe...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:02 PM
Friday

At least that kind of scandal was amusing and not hideously abusive.

EarthFirst

(3,333 posts)
7. The only way he survives in his new role...
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:53 PM
Friday

…is by completely dismantling the armed services in a way that insulates him from removal.

Which at this point; who TF knows if that isn’t the plan…

Tickle

(3,335 posts)
9. I believe he's in recovery, and
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:54 PM
Friday

people can change and grow. I'm giving him that, but that's it. I'm not saying he's qualified, but it hurts when we call him an alcohol....

Ocelot II

(122,388 posts)
18. He said he'd quit drinking if he got the SecDef job. That doesn't sound like he's in recovery at all.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:58 PM
Friday

It sounds more like he's one of those hard-core alcoholics who denies he has a problem and says he can stop drinking any time if he wants to.

58Sunliner

(5,142 posts)
21. He looks like a real sociopath. I doubt much of anything hurts him. He acts like a dry drunk, if he isn't drinking.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:08 PM
Friday

jls4561

(1,873 posts)
13. Install one of those breathalyzer things that they put in cars on the door to the Pentagon.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:56 PM
Friday

Midnight Writer

(23,339 posts)
17. I think 34 is an excellent guess. I expect this whole house of cards to start falling down very early.
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 09:57 PM
Friday

By the end of the year, I doubt any of these nominees will be around.

Unfortunately, their replacements will be no better.

surfered

(4,517 posts)
27. After the first crisis in the middle of the night, he will drink a bottle of vodka and service members will die,
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:17 PM
Friday

…then everyone will agree that he was the wrong choice.

Maeve

(43,100 posts)
31. Y'all remember Rachel Maddow's big board of 2017?
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:35 PM
Friday

The former staffers that quit the first misadministration? That got too big for one screen? You ain't seen nothing yet!
If he lasts 6 months, it will feel like a lifetime

Polybius

(18,930 posts)
33. I say his entire term
Fri Jan 24, 2025, 10:47 PM
Friday

He's going to do Trump’s bidding. There is no reason that Trump will fire him.

Jacson6

(994 posts)
42. Maybe he will be found passed out in a DC street gutter with a bottle of Scotch?
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 02:41 PM
Saturday

Just askin...

BlueTsunami2018

(4,136 posts)
44. Why would he? I don't understand the thinking here.
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 03:19 PM
Saturday

He isn’t in control of anything. He’s there to order the things they tell him to order and that’s it. As long as he does the bidding of the P25 people who are actually in control of the department, he’ll be there.

He’s a loyalist figurehead and that’s it.

The same with every other cabinet post. They’re not running anything, they’re not independent, there will be no pushback.

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