instead of helping the American people and it’s land, they are set on destroying everything.

Setting up the mid-terms. Anything to make Democrats look bad.

It's unconstitutional You can't override the constitution with a bill. This makes the Republicans look like seditious morons.

that's the only takeaway that matters. They know it's unconstitutional. Democrats are being intentionally set-up. I believe this is the first of many such idiotic, unlawful bills designed specifically to pander to the cult, and in the process, make Democrats look bad.

Trump got a lot of votes by promising to put an end to it.

Even just barely 50% of Republicans support ending birthright citizenship. Don't listen to the MAGA propaganda. They like to pretend that all their policies are massively popular, when in fact, almost all of their policies are massively UNpopular. Poll after Poll shows Democratic/Liberal/Progressive policies are far more popular.

And no, Trump probably gained 0 votes by promising to end birthright citizenship. Everybody in favor of ending birthright citizenship would have voted for Trump anyway due to his promise of mass deportations.

The assertion embodied in her statement is that everything TSF does is popular because he won. He won by a hair, but nonetheless. He won because there were enough people who thought he could make eggs cheaper to supplement the vote of right wing culture warriors. Another issue. Trans rights, there is nowhere near a majority of people who want to erase them and make their lives miserable.

buy into the MAGA propaganda that pretends everything they favor is popular. It may seem like that to some people because MAGAs are extremely loud and vocal and get far more exposure than the opposition to spout their positions on mainstream media. But it's just propaganda. Most MAGA positions are not popular with the population in general.

And as I mentioned, the Birthright citizenship "promise" almost certainly gained 0 votes for Trump as anti immigrant voters were going to vote for Trump no matter what.

However they are nowhere near a majority. TSF won because their votes were supplemented by those who thought eggs cost too much.

And they are gonna get a shock when a lot of Democrats end up supporting this interpretation.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

The EO doesn't end birthright citizenship in its entirety--rather it addresses cases which are being "exploited", if you will, by foreign nationals, and will easily find resonance with the public.

If you ask the public if they support birthplace citizenship in general they'll say Yes, but if you ask them if two wealthy Chinese nationals should be able to book a vacation to gift their newborn with American citizenship, and you'll start seeing a lot of No's appear.

Take TFG out of the equation and poll support for this:

"Among the categories of individuals born in the United States and not subject to the jurisdiction thereof, the privilege of United States citizenship does not automatically extend to persons born in the United States: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth."

If we're gonna make absolute birthright citizenship part of the party plank, we need to be prepared to defend some highly exploitive behavior on the part of foreign nationals. I want no part of it and I think the party would be foolish to defend a policy that doesn't benefit American voters.

The legality of birthright citizenship for those who you (quite frighteningly) object to, has already been decided at the Supreme Court multiple times.

A recent poll found only 28% favored ending birthright citizenship. Even for Republicans, only 53% favored ending birthright citizenship. Republicans and Trump are on the wrong side of this issue. Most Americans favor the Democrats position, so there is no way forcing a vote on something like this would make Democrats look bad. It would make Republicans look like idiots to the majority of the population. Your premise is just wrong.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article298897150.html

Laugh now, cry later.

Democrats supporting a popular position will in no way have any negative consequences to them. Period.

The polling indicates that super majorities support maintaining birth right citizenship. If everyone voted on just that issue which would never happen the Democrats would win.

Biden's bipartisan supported immigration bill was torpedoed by ***** solely to make the president look bad.

Of course the birth citizenship issue is bullshit. That's not the point. They're pandering to the cult and creating mid-term ammunition to use against Dems -- and moderate rebukes -- for voting against it.

Done.

The Cult won because it was supplemented by voters who thought stuff cost too much and the president could wave a magical wand and fix it. Inflation was the best thing to happen to TSF. It's heartbreaking when you think about it. Joe Biden could have been a classmate of Methusaleh and nobody would have given a ---- if we didn't have that round of inflation.

that a lot of people viewed the influx of large numbers of immigrants in recent years as a problem. Even mass deportation for those who have not been convicted of a crime polls poorly. However, prioritizing border security polls much better as does limiting the number of immigrants allowed in . Those are the immigration issues that motivated people, NOT birthright citizenship.

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-poll-deportation-trump-border-security-40b2a28e34f8d0c76b4a6589f3db1ba3
Border security is popular – but that may be the limit of US immigration consensus: AP-NORC poll
January 22, 2025

https://news.gallup.com/poll/647123/sharply-americans-curb-immigration.aspx
Sharply More Americans Want to Curb Immigration to U.S.
July 12, 2024

I suspect almost nobody does. I do have a problem deporting people who have roots in the community, regardless of their status.

It's very unpopular.

from Native Americans.

beyond that? Today it is eliminating FEMA. What will he come up with tomorrow.

And U S law supersedes tribal law.

One place I get my news is from freespeechtv.org.

Magats may use the angle that the 14th Amendment was not voted on properly. This was done during reconstruction and there is a question about whether or not all of the southern states were counted to get the 3/4 vote to pass the 14th Amendment.

Were the southern states a part of the union when this Amendment passed?

I do not know if this has legs but you won't hear about it on cable news.