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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo "their" plan is to split the world three ways. Stump, Putin and Xi.
Financial Times, archived article
Canada, Trump and the new world orderr.
(Make that New World Odor.)
https://archive.md/XEEtx
Real short: (most of it is filler)
So there it is. Give Europe to Putin, the rest of Asia (and presumably Africa) to Xi, and give most of the defense budget (and education and health care) money to the rich.
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As opposed to USONA, The United States of North America, in which the US, in accord with its founders' plan, would have two senate seats, just like the others.
At last count (https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html)
Irish_Dem
(62,147 posts)It is perfectly obvious that Trump, Putin, Xi are dividing up the world.
Putin gets Europe and the US.
Xi gets the Pacific and Africa.
The puppet US gets North and Central America.
yardwork
(65,116 posts)Too many American progressives have bought into pro-Putin propaganda. We see the echoes of it here.
It's perfectly obvious to me that Putin bought Trump's election in 2016 and did it again in 2024. The reasons are obvious, too.
We are supposed to believe that two ruthless psychopaths with a lot to lose
played fair and square in the elections.
And that the billionaires also played fair.
Trump faced prison and financial ruin.
Putin faced the loss of Ukraine and his power and money.
And the billionaires knew they could become trillionaires with Trump.
Despite the pride and so much optimism, somewhere deep down my heart, I knew this election would be a disappointment. Which was why he was acting like a clown with no home training because he knew he had it in the bag. The fix was in.
Even through 2020, he was always waiting in the shadows, looming right over us, popping his big fat mouth. He had to win this election and evil entities helped him cause he's a useful dumb puppet.
yardwork
(65,116 posts)That's it.
Trump stayed out of prison and they got their useful dumb puppet.
BannonsLiver
(18,491 posts)Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)
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Dem4life1234
(2,255 posts)The US and allied used to save the world, who is gonna save US?
Irish_Dem
(62,147 posts)All three branches of US government, and the federal and state workforce have folded.
And We The People have folded like a cheap lawn chair.
The billionaires pledge their allegiance to Trump.
Dem4life1234
(2,255 posts)This would have been nipped in the bud had that cowardly justice system done its duty.
Irish_Dem
(62,147 posts)Who is now very dangerous given his immense power and immunity from all crimes.
Baron2024
(675 posts)Maybe an internal resistance by military and law enforcement that are not loyal to Trump but rather loyal to their oaths to defend the US Constitution. Soldiers like General Milley and law enforcement like Christopher Wray. Allied with all of the Blue State Governors and all of the State Police under their command, as well as local police under the command of Democratic Mayor's. Aided and assisted by the mass of civilians opposed to Tyranny, Fascism, and a Police State. Who wants to live in a Police State? I would bet the answer is not most people. This could be the basis of a Resistance.
Dem4life1234
(2,255 posts)Because this cannot be sustained, especially in a developed nation known for freedom and liberty.
BoRaGard
(3,715 posts)Kid Berwyn
(18,897 posts)The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
― George Orwell, 1984
Johonny
(22,574 posts)RazorbackExpat
(236 posts)and The Beast? Trump, Putin and Xi?
usonian
(15,378 posts)1. So called religious leaders who sell out to politicians to gain (or recover) secular power when their calvinist message fails (since the 60s)
2. Oligarchs who buy politicians to get the laws wired in their favor. (1)
3. Politicians, who will sell out on the cheap, and
4. The good old friend of fascism: race hatred, or other blaming of minorities to divide and conquer
We have a confluence of all four, a pretty exact mirror of Germany in the 30s.
(1) https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219876755
Now, imagine you were a tycoon who is also a defense contractor that is trying to sell hundreds of billions of dollars of military equipment to the government, and you know that the procurement process requires them to go with the lowest bidder. But, since you're a dude with hundreds of billions of dollars, it doesn't seem fair that the system isn't even more rigged in your favor. How would you "fix" this system? Well, you'd have to capture procurement, so that it was rigged to only buy stuff from you and your friends, at whatever price you guys want
Strelnikov_
(7,875 posts)Also, oligarchs will have a bit of a hissy, as they make their money on the back of the empire.
Not to mention dollar as the worlds reserve currency, on and on . . .
Then again, this idea is about dumb enough to be one of his . .
usonian
(15,378 posts)Simple plan. Axis powers.
Germany becomes Russia
Japan becomes China
Italy becomes USA. mousselini goes upside down with joy.
maveric
(16,732 posts)Oh boy.
Crunchy Frog
(27,229 posts)Also very similar to the world described in 1984.
WarGamer
(16,071 posts)Russia has ground down to a stalemate vs a less than 3rd world military in Ukraine...
Poland could single handedly march the Russian army back to Moscow.
All of NATO... puhleeze...
NickB79
(19,721 posts)Even without the US in NATO, his military couldn't defeat Poland alone, much less the rest of the Continent.
What I expect is that China will eventually start to claim some of Russian Siberia as being historically part of China proper, now that Russia's military has been decimated in Ukraine. We'll see how Russia responds to a war on two fronts.
Celerity
(47,553 posts)usonian
(15,378 posts)Unless Joe made some kind of arrangement ...
All NATO's workings are likely on Putin's desk already.
Ritabert
(839 posts)Eurasia, Eastasia and Oceania.
EX500rider
(11,692 posts)Blue Dotty
(81 posts)Will Israel and SA be joint owners of the middle east?
usonian
(15,378 posts)There just have to be disputes. Putin and Xi can fight this out, though Stump has some pretty permanent interests in both.
Maybe he can make "a deal". 👎
For money, tons and tons of money.
More money than you've ever seen.
Canadians will fight a U.S. invasion, that's for sure.