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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNATO Secretary General Mark Rutte called on the alliance to prepare for a major war:
Saying, "Our future security is at stake"
What they've been saying behind closed doors is now going public.
Preparing the citizenry or presenting a posturing position to The Evil Alliance ?
Link to tweet

Jim__
(14,648 posts)... that this will lead to war. One thing is clear, Russia's military is not very strong. If Putin has any sense at all, he will try to avoid war with NATO. A clear message can make mistakes less likely.
Arazi
(7,638 posts)I wouldn’t be so sure Russia’s allies wouldn't jump into a bigger fray. Both of those countries have already gotten increasingly involved in Ukraine
Irish_Dem
(67,214 posts)And side with Putin.
Dan
(4,498 posts)I would be proud to see Mr. Trump line up with the Russian Forces against NATO.
I’m old but ready to return to Active Duty on the side of our traditional allies to fight our enemies.
erronis
(18,659 posts)Otherwise your comment sounds quite anti-US and anti-NATO.
I would be proud to return to Active Duty on the side of our traditional allies;
My understanding is that NATO is based on our traditional allies and Russia is our historical enemy?
So, not sure what your thought are?
I would hope that if Trump sides with Putin that Mr. Putin would make Trump a general, cause everything that Trump touches - dies.
Plus, with bone spurs - he’s unable to fight.
erronis
(18,659 posts)and it isn't clear (at least to me) how the military will react to some possibly very harmful directives.
KS Toronado
(21,011 posts)I can see him telling the Pentagon to go help his buddy Putin fight Ukrainians and the upper ranks might
say "let's go" but the lower ranks will refuse most likely.
BannonsLiver
(19,025 posts)The poster is saying he would be proud to fight with Germany, France, UK etc. (our traditional allies) against Russia, NK and Iran. A bit hyperbolic but the sentiment seems clear to me.
Lovie777
(17,655 posts)and many sane countries know that.
brush
(59,419 posts)Hekate
(96,986 posts)…After enumerating Russia’s threat to individual European nations, Rutte closed with, “We have to put NATO on a war footing. “ It was clear to me that he was excluding America’s input — and I thought that was wise, under the circs.
NJCher
(39,531 posts)about head of NATO warning of war:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219910068#post30
Hekate
(96,986 posts)Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)slightlv
(5,245 posts)But I very much want to see Trumps treasure... Musk, thief, and the other immigrants who want to clean out our country sent to war on the front lines at the very start. We call these guys tech bros, and infer their youth... whether or not they're young. They're Trumps treasure, along with their money. I want all of Trumps treasure burned to the ground. He's going to make sure as many of us good Americans die as possible. I want to ensure the opposite.
Knowing what comes out of china's wet markets, it makes perfect sense to put Kennedy in charge of health... if you want as few Americans possible left. Easier to just steal the country that way... and take down a respected democratic family and name.
You guys have been forgiving of my words and thoughts lately, so I won't push it. I truly appreciate the good people you are and I don't want to see anyone but trump and magas suffer. But I do want them to suffer for every slur they've uttered, every life they've taken. I'll just leave it at that.
Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)Skittles
(163,063 posts)
surfered
(5,880 posts)Great! With Trump as Commander-in-Chief, Hegseth running the Pentagon, and Tulsi Gabbard as the new DNI and leaking our plans to Putin, we should just surrender now.
Diraven
(1,335 posts)That Trump will follow Putin's orders to drop all pretence after inauguration and officially announce we are joining the Evil Alliance.
bdamomma
(67,847 posts)
Lulu KC
(7,643 posts)I think the earliness of these things is finally getting to me. Of course, it's been going on forever, but that 1/19 truce date + a 1/16 NATO expression of this type are making me feel like the carpet is being pulled out from under us in a different way. Never have I felt this way before.
Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)bdamomma
(67,847 posts)We are not even the "good guys" as of Jan 20th unless something changes drastically.
Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)PatSeg
(49,996 posts)It is too much like the leadup to the second World War.
struggle4progress
(122,312 posts)Blue_Tires
(57,596 posts)It's just being fought with hackers and social media trolls and disinformation merchants and useful idiots instead of bullets and bombs...
People have written extensively about "hybrid war" and "special war" since Donnie's first term...
liberalla
(10,379 posts)Admiral Cavo Dragone takes over from Admiral Bauer as Chair of the NATO Military Committee
17 Jan. 2025
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_232452.htm