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Pluvious

(4,944 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:43 PM Jan 16

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte called on the alliance to prepare for a major war:

Saying, "Our future security is at stake"

What they've been saying behind closed doors is now going public.

Preparing the citizenry or presenting a posturing position to The Evil Alliance ?



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NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte called on the alliance to prepare for a major war: (Original Post) Pluvious Jan 16 OP
It is not necessarily a posturing position. One way to avoid war is to be clear to a country making threats ... Jim__ Jan 16 #1
Russia is allied with Iran and North Korea Arazi Jan 16 #7
I assume trump will line up against NATO. Irish_Dem Jan 16 #2
I can't say what I just thought....so I will say this Dan Jan 16 #5
I'm hoping you are implying that trump would be sent to the russian frontlines. erronis Jan 16 #6
Follow up Dan Jan 16 #8
Thanks for clarifying that for me. Unfortunately trump will be the CIC of the US armed forces erronis Jan 16 #10
The way tsf is firing everybody who won't kiss his ass KS Toronado Jan 16 #14
Not really BannonsLiver Jan 16 #9
Under shithole musk the threat is real.... Lovie777 Jan 16 #3
He is wise to take this stance with the uncertainty of where the US stand with with trump in place. brush Jan 16 #4
Thanks. I caught the tail end of a speech Rutte gave to NATO several weeks ago. As I posted then... Hekate Jan 16 #11
see this link NJCher Jan 16 #25
Thx. Will check it out. Hekate Jan 16 #26
Drumpf and Hegseth are going to be over their heads in about two weeks. Fuck 'em. Hope we all don't get killed. n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #12
I agree with you. slightlv Jan 16 #15
Not disagreeing. Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #20
no doubt influenced by Trump being a Putin stooge Skittles Jan 16 #13
Prepare for war? surfered Jan 16 #16
It's a good bet Diraven Jan 16 #17
................. bdamomma Jan 16 #22
Not a surprise, and yet more chilling than I'd imagined Lulu KC Jan 16 #18
You are right to feel that way. They don't care about our country and are the true "enemy from within." n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 16 #21
Fucking felon bdamomma Jan 16 #23
Agreed. Not likely to change unfortunately. Evolve Dammit Jan 17 #27
At least they're finally saying it out loud PatSeg Jan 16 #19
Sounds like Kim, Putin, and Trump are the axis of evil struggle4progress Jan 16 #24
I keep telling people that World War 3 has already been going on for years now Blue_Tires Jan 17 #28
Today NATO named Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone as new NATO Military Committee Chair liberalla Jan 17 #29

Jim__

(14,648 posts)
1. It is not necessarily a posturing position. One way to avoid war is to be clear to a country making threats ...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:59 PM
Jan 16

... that this will lead to war. One thing is clear, Russia's military is not very strong. If Putin has any sense at all, he will try to avoid war with NATO. A clear message can make mistakes less likely.

Arazi

(7,638 posts)
7. Russia is allied with Iran and North Korea
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:16 PM
Jan 16

I wouldn’t be so sure Russia’s allies wouldn't jump into a bigger fray. Both of those countries have already gotten increasingly involved in Ukraine

Dan

(4,498 posts)
5. I can't say what I just thought....so I will say this
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:07 PM
Jan 16

I would be proud to see Mr. Trump line up with the Russian Forces against NATO.

I’m old but ready to return to Active Duty on the side of our traditional allies to fight our enemies.

erronis

(18,659 posts)
6. I'm hoping you are implying that trump would be sent to the russian frontlines.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:14 PM
Jan 16

Otherwise your comment sounds quite anti-US and anti-NATO.

Dan

(4,498 posts)
8. Follow up
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jan 16

I would be proud to return to Active Duty on the side of our traditional allies;

My understanding is that NATO is based on our traditional allies and Russia is our historical enemy?

So, not sure what your thought are?

I would hope that if Trump sides with Putin that Mr. Putin would make Trump a general, cause everything that Trump touches - dies.

Plus, with bone spurs - he’s unable to fight.

erronis

(18,659 posts)
10. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Unfortunately trump will be the CIC of the US armed forces
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:27 PM
Jan 16

and it isn't clear (at least to me) how the military will react to some possibly very harmful directives.

KS Toronado

(21,011 posts)
14. The way tsf is firing everybody who won't kiss his ass
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:52 PM
Jan 16

I can see him telling the Pentagon to go help his buddy Putin fight Ukrainians and the upper ranks might
say "let's go" but the lower ranks will refuse most likely.

BannonsLiver

(19,025 posts)
9. Not really
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jan 16

The poster is saying he would be proud to fight with Germany, France, UK etc. (our traditional allies) against Russia, NK and Iran. A bit hyperbolic but the sentiment seems clear to me.

brush

(59,419 posts)
4. He is wise to take this stance with the uncertainty of where the US stand with with trump in place.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 04:10 PM
Jan 16

Hekate

(96,986 posts)
11. Thanks. I caught the tail end of a speech Rutte gave to NATO several weeks ago. As I posted then...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:34 PM
Jan 16

…After enumerating Russia’s threat to individual European nations, Rutte closed with, “We have to put NATO on a war footing. “ It was clear to me that he was excluding America’s input — and I thought that was wise, under the circs.

Evolve Dammit

(20,429 posts)
12. Drumpf and Hegseth are going to be over their heads in about two weeks. Fuck 'em. Hope we all don't get killed. n/t
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jan 16

slightlv

(5,245 posts)
15. I agree with you.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jan 16

But I very much want to see Trumps treasure... Musk, thief, and the other immigrants who want to clean out our country sent to war on the front lines at the very start. We call these guys tech bros, and infer their youth... whether or not they're young. They're Trumps treasure, along with their money. I want all of Trumps treasure burned to the ground. He's going to make sure as many of us good Americans die as possible. I want to ensure the opposite.

Knowing what comes out of china's wet markets, it makes perfect sense to put Kennedy in charge of health... if you want as few Americans possible left. Easier to just steal the country that way... and take down a respected democratic family and name.

You guys have been forgiving of my words and thoughts lately, so I won't push it. I truly appreciate the good people you are and I don't want to see anyone but trump and magas suffer. But I do want them to suffer for every slur they've uttered, every life they've taken. I'll just leave it at that.

surfered

(5,880 posts)
16. Prepare for war?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:20 PM
Jan 16

Great! With Trump as Commander-in-Chief, Hegseth running the Pentagon, and Tulsi Gabbard as the new DNI and leaking our plans to Putin, we should just surrender now.

Diraven

(1,335 posts)
17. It's a good bet
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:21 PM
Jan 16

That Trump will follow Putin's orders to drop all pretence after inauguration and officially announce we are joining the Evil Alliance.

Lulu KC

(7,643 posts)
18. Not a surprise, and yet more chilling than I'd imagined
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jan 16

I think the earliness of these things is finally getting to me. Of course, it's been going on forever, but that 1/19 truce date + a 1/16 NATO expression of this type are making me feel like the carpet is being pulled out from under us in a different way. Never have I felt this way before.

Evolve Dammit

(20,429 posts)
21. You are right to feel that way. They don't care about our country and are the true "enemy from within." n/t
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 07:24 PM
Jan 16

bdamomma

(67,847 posts)
23. Fucking felon
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 09:15 PM
Jan 16

We are not even the "good guys" as of Jan 20th unless something changes drastically.

PatSeg

(49,996 posts)
19. At least they're finally saying it out loud
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 06:36 PM
Jan 16

It is too much like the leadup to the second World War.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
28. I keep telling people that World War 3 has already been going on for years now
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jan 17

It's just being fought with hackers and social media trolls and disinformation merchants and useful idiots instead of bullets and bombs...

People have written extensively about "hybrid war" and "special war" since Donnie's first term...

liberalla

(10,379 posts)
29. Today NATO named Admiral Giuseppe Cavo Dragone as new NATO Military Committee Chair
Fri Jan 17, 2025, 04:50 PM
Jan 17

Admiral Cavo Dragone takes over from Admiral Bauer as Chair of the NATO Military Committee
17 Jan. 2025

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_232452.htm

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