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If you missed it, Rachel will be on every weeknight starting next Monday, the day the felon is inaugurated, and continuing for the first hundred days of his (mis)administration. Put bluntly, she's going to 'war" with Trump and his stable full of thugs.
Rachel is not just doing another one hour cable "news" show. For all practical purposes, she is an investigative reporter. She's a modern day Woodward and Bernstein. My guess is she's at work at 6:00 am to prepare for a show that night. It's a schedule that is brutal. And once every fact is checked, every detail is double checked, and everyone she is going to mention is contacted to see if they want to say anything before she goes on the air, she must pull herself together and get in front of the camera. And she doesn't fill much time with guests. It's her, out there all alone most of the time, reading the teleprompter, most of which contains words that she herself wrote.
And, contrary to some opinions, this isn't something she's "doing for the money." That schedule, (given the depth of her reporting), is a statement that she's on a mission. And it's a formula for exhaustion, or a breakdown.
(For those who don't know, Rachel is a Rhodes Scholar, but that doesn't make what she does any easier.)
Yesterday's post on Rachel Maddow:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219906286

CTyankee
(65,905 posts)It might be time for her to reassess and make some changes in her life.
ShazzieB
(20,039 posts)CTyankee
(65,905 posts)Why do you ask?
choie
(5,294 posts)specifically the part about re-assessing her life.
nolabear
(43,649 posts)I’m ready.
iluvtennis
(21,116 posts)thebigidea
(13,489 posts)I don't see it. She's not an investigative journalist. She doesn't have sources, she comments and has guests on that comment.
Cyrano
(15,388 posts)For example, the "BridgeGate" story regarding Chris Christie. (There are many other instances like that.)
She doesn't rely on "The news of the day."
It's not really that hard to see the difference between her reporting and that of all others. She's a true "Journalist" in every sense of the word.
mopinko
(72,192 posts)read any of her books?
soldierant
(8,316 posts)There is no one else doing things like that.
electric_blue68
(20,602 posts)mopinko
(72,192 posts)electric_blue68
(20,602 posts)mopinko
(72,192 posts)i start my day w the full lawrence audio. i catch a couple other bits. rachel, maybe nicole. maybe psaki.
i like joy, but she raises my blood pressure w/o much new info.
electric_blue68
(20,602 posts)mopinko
(72,192 posts)electric_blue68
(20,602 posts)I listen to Rachel, Lawrence, Joy & Jen the most.
Pay attention to a lot of Dems.
Oh, now I see my original post. Wth? 🤔😄
thebigidea
(13,489 posts)Behind the Bastards isn't investigative journalism either, just a high quality podcast. It doesn't mean these podcasts are somehow "lesser," they just aren't what Woodward and Bernstein did to dig at the truth.
Investigative journalism is fucking expensive. Very few outlets want to give their reporters lead time, leeway, and the budget to pursue leads for long periods of time. Instead we report what "both sides" say and throw in a few pundits to comment. It's cheaper, it's faster, it helps feed the content machine, it doesn't require as much wrangling and fact-checking or legal department scrutiny.
What Rachel Maddow does is valuable and of course has tons of fans on the left. People shouldn't take it as a personal attack that no, what she does doesn't fall under the definition of investigative journalism for the most part. It's commentary. Her research department is great at providing context and background information on issues, but they aren't pounding the pavement and meeting Deep Throat in a parking garage to break massive stories.
Rachel doesn't hang around the White House for months doing interviews on background with everyone she can, she can't afford to do stuff like that with her schedule and her work. Yes, Woodward is a pompous blowhard who still can't pronounce "reporter" correctly, but he still does that kind of thing because they give him the time and budget to do it. Which results in people pissed he saves shit for the books! But again, investigative journalism is expensive and slow! Woodward's books require WAY more expensive legal advice than something like Ultra. So I can see why his reliable bestseller status is needed for him to keep in the game.
Trust_Reality
(2,130 posts)She is one of the most informative reporter/journalist/educators I have ever seen on TV.
Bernardo de La Paz
(53,875 posts)Was going to post your point. Kudos for being first!
Trueblue1968
(18,434 posts)choie
(5,294 posts)Bagman and Ultra nor read her book Prequel.
Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)Bonx
(2,304 posts)
FakeNoose
(37,054 posts)The days of rogue reporters like Woodward & Bernstein are over, my friend.
Oneear
(431 posts)Date Line Cape Girardeau, Missouri, has a Story to tell. Back Story: 95% of the Galvanized Pipe is Dipped in Zinc EPA.org lead. The city manager, mayor, and council know of this but are unable to address it because they do not have the time. Grant Money for Removing Lead Pipes can receive funds for this work. semissourian.com Gray Media KFVS-TV talks about this. In 2024, we had at least 46 water leaks.
ShazzieB
(20,039 posts)I mean, who knows what she will cover; she did a fantastic job of calling attention to the water situation in Flint, MI a few years ago. But I'm sure Trump will be her primary focus, from what we've been told.
I'm sorry to hear Cape Girardeau is having such terrible problems. I don't understand how the city manager, mayor, and council don't have "time" to address it or why that would not be one of their highest priorities, if not the very highest. What a frustrating situarion.
MichMan
(14,685 posts)William Seger
(11,507 posts)Must be something she really wants to do.
Woodwizard
(1,152 posts)Was 30 and you can bet it will go up with the chaotic gold mine going in office. She has a bit of motivation I believe...
dgauss
(1,291 posts)that tried to overthrow the government before WWII, she mentions the people that stood up to that. She seems genuinely impressed and inspired by all those people, often just ordinary citizens that took a lot of risks. Lots of untold stories of people who stepped up and put a lot on the line to do the right thing.
I had the thought that her research into that part of the story in that period of time may have inspired her to also step up and do whatever she can this time around. I have a feeling she'll be pretty fearless.
Ilsa
(62,665 posts)pushed him to suicide. There is a very special place in Hell for Joe McCarthy and anyone who assisted him.
TommyT139
(1,121 posts)Rachel laid out the history of how Roy Cohn was chief investigator for the Communist "witch hunt." I couldn't believe that all this history was, basically, shadow banned.
Made me realize that we are not so far from those horrible times -- not far in the past, and not far in the future.
TommyT139
(1,121 posts)Rachel laid out the history of how Roy Cohn was chief investigator for the Communist "witch hunt." I couldn't believe that all this history was, basically, shadow banned.
Made me realize that we are not so far from those horrible times -- not far in the past, and not far in the future.
She's such an important voice for Democracy and for progressives. Is there a parallel between dems losing so badly and Rachel (TRMS) going to one night a week?
pwb
(12,252 posts)Nothing can get me to watch any cable news ever again.
Peregrine Took
(7,571 posts)electric_blue68
(20,602 posts)assembling a modest network to launch.
🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
SleeplessinSoCal
(10,007 posts)She has a very strong reputation that will discount her message.
Who if anyone is the antitrump? It was probably John McCain. Romney gave it a go. The Lincoln Project failed in the end. Is there a male voice who could carry her message to the misogynists we want to get the word.
vanlassie
(5,925 posts)People watch. People talk.
DaBronx
(671 posts)Evolve Dammit
(20,429 posts)Submariner
(12,949 posts)she should always have a detail nearby. She is too tempting a target for some sicko Dimentia Don maggot looking for a maga glory moment.
spooky3
(37,265 posts)She has a group of people working under her guidance who do a lot of work skillfully.
yellow dahlia
(2,110 posts)And some of them have moved into a more visible status, like Lisa Rubin.
erodriguez
(856 posts)It's not.
MSNBC has been bleeding watchers since the election. They are going to go back to Maddow 5 nights a week. Which she had previously done when she was a rising star.
Really it's not a big deal
beaglelover
(4,225 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(10,007 posts)Just now she had on Adam Schiff and showed some of his Pam Bondi questioning. The arrogant retribution, while denying truth, is going to be harrowing. And democrats apparently are in a state of denial. Schiff himself will likely be a target and he is not up to the dirty level of politics coming.
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yellow dahlia
(2,110 posts)certainly not anymore.
Deuxcents
(21,576 posts)erodriguez
(856 posts)Deuxcents
(21,576 posts)Trueblue Texan
(3,249 posts)Staying informed so you can do the right, most effective, thing is important.
GusBob
(7,812 posts)Folks will wait holding their breath for the TV show to come, popcorn and remote ready
That will that "turn on RM right now!" thing and discuss the topic du jour.
If she takes a night off teeth will be gnashed. If she takes 2 nights in a row off, its 911 time
And all sorts of magic things will happen
so thats something, I guess
questionseverything
(10,654 posts)It’s too late now
Duncan Grant
(8,675 posts)I’m looking for as much intelligent resistance as I can get — for however long I can get it.
(Many of us should be stepping forward in our families and communities. When queer people started coming out, it created a movement. Liberals and progressives should do likewise, imho.)
Rikki Tikki Tumbo
(3 posts)Rachel coming back to 5 nights a week has everything to do with ratings and nothing to do with her personal vendetta against TFG.
mntleo2
(2,589 posts)...I repect her superior credentials and her Ultra and podcasts have been excellent
Cat in Seattle
niyad
(122,982 posts)patphil
(7,600 posts)I know she has a staff that is responsibility for a lot of this, but her delivery is always spot on.
I'm glad she'll be with us in these first 100 days of the Trumpian dystopia.
Basically, I/we need her to help us through this. So many in the media are caving in to the threats coming from Republicans in general, and Trump in particular.
Individually we are pretty powerless, but together we can be a force to be reckoned with.
She can help us rally to the flag, so to speak.
Duncan Grant
(8,675 posts)I hope the opposition party will be as intelligent and brave.
MichMan
(14,685 posts)HereForTheParty
(788 posts)for less than $25 million. She's done good work but let's not pretend it's a herculean effort.
marcopolo63
(72 posts)It’s going to take more than an hour of Rachel’s excellent investigative reporting to uncover all the bullshit, grifting and corruption this new government will inflict on the United States!
jayschool2013
(2,553 posts)However, Rachel has a team of investigative reporters and fact-checkers, producers and others at her disposal.
Woodward and Bernstein, with the backing of Katherine Graham and Ben Bradlee, were pretty much lone wolves from 1972-1974, helped, of course, by Mark "Deep Throat" Felt.
TomWilm
(1,896 posts)... she is a clever teller of those stories, gives them credit and adds her own quirky angles. But is most fun, when she won't let a suppressed story go away - which also can be her problem. Even though she has a good eye, and a lot of hidden helpers behind her, she has also spent way too much time on misfires like Trump's tax-returns, Michael Avenatti and Alfa Bank...
Joinfortmill
(17,700 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,577 posts)All cable and network news is dead to me after the 2024 election coverage.
They all suck.
The rest of you can enjoy the Ozempic commercials.
Hekate
(96,978 posts)She has proven her credentials time and again, with in-depth reporting, many deep-dive podcast series, and book after book.
Yes she has a staff, but from the way she used to talk when she first started at MSNBC, in the beginning it was a small number of interns. They are pros by now. They don’t “feed” her what to say — she directs them in their research, and she has the in-depth knowledge to know if they know what they are saying.
If she had pursued academia, she would have been the kind of professor who knew when a student was blowing smoke, and she would have been the kind that demanded top-notch work. And would have demanded top-notch work from herself, every day.
The quality shows in her chosen career.
As for her salary, it’s negotiated, not “given. “ The corporate bigwigs would not have yielded unless they thought she was worth it. It’s not coming out of your pocket or mine, and as an older woman, I’m just tickled that Rachel is making as much as a man in a similar position.