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LetMyPeopleVote

(156,451 posts)
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:52 AM 22 hrs ago

Trump announces plans for a new, wildly unnecessary bureaucracy

The president-elect announced plans for a new “External Revenue Service,” to run parallel to the IRS, which was bizarre for reasons he ought to understand.
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-announces-plans-new-wildly-unnecessary-bureaucracy-rcna187775

It was against this backdrop that the president-elect made an announcement of sorts by way of his social media platform:

For far too long, we have relied on taxing our Great People using the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Through soft and pathetically weak Trade agreements, the American Economy has delivered growth and prosperity to the World, while taxing ourselves. It is time for that to change. I am today announcing that I will create the EXTERNAL REVENUE SERVICE to collect our Tariffs, Duties, and all Revenue that come from Foreign sources. We will begin charging those that make money off of us with Trade, and they will start paying, FINALLY, their fair share. January 20, 2025, will be the birth date of the External Revenue Service.

......The Washington Post reported that Trump’s announcement “sparked immediate confusion about how such an office would work in practice.”

U.S. Customs and Border Protection currently administers tariff policy, which is set by the president and Congress. Importers self-classify and declare the value of their goods, and CBP officials review and audit that paperwork before collecting any duties, penalties and fees, according to the Congressional Research Service. Those funds are deposited into the U.S. General Fund, run by the Treasury Department. The government collected about $80 billion in tariffs and duties in 2023, according to a White House estimate.

Does Trump know this? Did he give this a moment’s thought before making the announcement? Did it occur to him that maybe he could ask someone who actually knows something about the issue?

Unfortunately, I think we know the answer to these questions.


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Dave Bowman

(4,082 posts)
1. "maybe he could ask someone who actually knows something about the issue?"
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:58 AM
22 hrs ago

He doesn't need specialists' advices since he's such a stable genius.

hatrack

(61,387 posts)
2. Monty Python (pretentious City businessman): "I think we should tax all foreigners living abroad!"
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 10:59 AM
22 hrs ago

Ocelot II

(121,904 posts)
3. Wait, isn't the GOP the party of *small* government?
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:01 AM
21 hrs ago

Or doesn't that fat orange moron know that there is already an agency, Customs and Border Protection, that collects tariffs and duties?

Hugin

(34,989 posts)
6. It sounds like he wants to go global with his protection con...
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:20 AM
21 hrs ago

“Hey, nice little county ya got here, it would be a shame if something were to happen to it.”

Irish_Dem

(61,041 posts)
8. The protection con is very lucrative so far, and he is not even in office yet.
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 11:31 AM
21 hrs ago

Yes of course he is going to greatly expand that racket.
Jared probably knows to the penny how much the Trumps can make on this scam.

And of course they are so brilliant, handsome, special they deserve all the money they can
get their hands on. Everyone else deserves to be robbed blind. They are suckers and losers.

Sailingfish

(2 posts)
9. LOL...tip of the iceberg for these gaslighting jackoffs
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 12:01 PM
20 hrs ago

If anyone takes the time to actually read Project 2025 in full they quickly realize these gaslighting assholes are utterly full of shit on every level. A thousand page blueprint to "reduce bureaucracy" and "dismantle the administrative state", by creating a massive new bureaucracy and administrative state (that dwarfs the current one) to do it. The Democratic Party has major issues, the ever increasing red tape and government intrusions into the lives of the rank and file is off the charts, the cost of daily survival is off the charts, and things are not getting better for the majority. These right-wing barbarian assholes will not solve it in any way, but in reality, will make it multiple times worse. The race to the bottom will be accelerating quickly. Not news to anyone paying attention.

airplaneman

(1,292 posts)
10. Trump just wants to be able to say
Thu Jan 16, 2025, 03:11 PM
17 hrs ago

Pay their fair share while screwing the poor and middle class with a regressive tax.
-Airplane

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