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Would not flock to Bluesky or Mastadon rather than this Chinese owned co.

These young people have a lot in common.

and sold. She said she could look for something on Amazon or do a search for something and it would be in her FB shortly. She's right, that has happened to me and my Data has been breached a few times. She prefers TikTok but she joined this site because she is worried about the ban. She uses the tiktok app for a lot of things. Someone did math tutoring and she got some help on her algebra 2 years ago, she loves to shop there. She uses a prepaid Visa when she shops on TikTok and she has bought some really cool things.

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The Chinese kids are teasing the American kids about spying - saying stuff like “you drank too much coffee this morning - I think you should should drink less”

Lots of Chinese kids teaching American kids how to speak Mandarin and lots of American kids on there trying out their Mandarin. What’s hopeful - the kids are all connecting!!

If you buy from Tamu & other Chinese internet stores, they already have your data.

I don't buy from them under any circumstances for that reason (as well as others).

If you’ve ever shopped at Walmart, you’ve supported the Chinese.

Nor is it a Chinese internet company.

Buying a product manufactured in China from an American company (while not my preference) is not the same as buying it from a Chinese retailer with connection to the Chinese government and supplying personal banking info while doing so.

I spent a 40+ year career in IT, so I am not particular naive about these things. But I really don't see anything of value that Tiktok can get that isn't broadly available from Big Data aggregators already. If the concern is that the app will leave trap doors and such on millions of cell phones, well, that is a concern that ought to be put directly to Apple and Google who provide those operating systems. If they present such a national security vulnerability, then maybe some people at Apple and Google should be facing criminal charges.

I am not suggesting that is the case. This anti Tiktok mob seems to have all the intelligence and grounding in reality of the people who were carrying on about them drones, them drones a couple of weeks ago.

BTW, what happened with them drones, anyway. Did the Martians figure out that their cover was blown and they went back to their own planet?

Passed the House 360-58 and the Senate 79-18. 15 of the 18 voting against it in the Senate were Republicans

Why did they all join the anti TikTok mob? Must be lacking the intelligence and grounding in reality you are referring to. You seem to have a very poor opinion regarding the intelligence of our elected officeholders.

Here is the list of the House votes.

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202486

say specifically what the Tiktok threat is, that is not equally present in Facebook, Twitter, Truth Social, or DU, for that matter?

No, you haven't. Because none of them knows shit about this stuff. Remember when Senator Ted Stevens from Alaska was ridiculed for talking about "the interwebs" as a "series of tubes"? Well, that was a hell of a lot more more accurate than anything anybody in Congress has explained about the "Tiktok threat".

And I notice nobody here has identified a single specific threat from Tiktok that isn't already present all across the tech landscape.

Just another political mob rush. Everybody trying to act like they are doing something important without having the slightest clue.

And don't get me wrong. There are real threats. Plenty of them, and serious ones. But they certainly aren't inherent or exclusive to Tiktok.

May have hurt Democrats with young voters and it seems many politicians supported it because TikTok doesn't censor pro Palestinian content as much as Facebook or US companies do.

If they were concerned about data harvesting or privacy they could try to pass legislation that applies to all of Big Tech not just 1 company.

Also Elon Musk owning X or Twitter seems to be a lot worse as far as propaganda goes than TikTok.

but those that did are the worst of the worst (like Gaetz, MTG, Mace, etc.). If those people are against a ban, then that tells me a ban is the absolute correct policy.

email address or phone number, date of birth.

BlueSky isn't that way.

Sharing ideas, thoughts and knowledge. They are communicating more than anyone here or on any other site.

It's much easier to make money on TikTok than it is to make money on YouTube. Hence, you are gonna get more sleuth grifters on TikTok.

And it stopped working. If someone sends me a TikTok video, I can't open it.

and some really cool gifts to buy on TikTok. The information these young people share is great. Just like here and anywhere else you have to weed out garbage but the tools to do it are there. I haven't joined the other one yet but my baby girl is keeping me informed and I probably will sign up . IMO the dangerous sites that should be banned are X and FB . They have no purpose.

about magats suddenly realizing that the ACA and Obamacare are the same thing and other such things.

Plus, some dog/cat rescue people, funny dog/cat videos and I'm fascinated with 800 square foot NY apartments that cost more per month than any of the mortgages we've ever had.

Oh and Chef Reactions!

and because of a panic....there are data breaches every day. Governments can BUY our data from Meta or other companies, FFS.

It has been one of the few things that make me laugh since the election and now it will be gone too. Ah well, fleeting moments of joy are overrated, right?

put in our music and stuff. Fun times till it became a shadow of itself. When Twitter and FB came up I signed on, it was good for years . Then Eloon and Zucker the Rat Penis Transplant screwed those two all to hell and all the fun ended. I still use FB but when Eloony started buying trump the presidency I deleted his X. . Now the government has used the stupidest excuse ever to shut down TikTok. All because China might have my e mail address, not even one I use for anything but that site and my birthday. Fucking ridiculous.

I have a huge 11 year old tuxedo cat that the kids on Rednote would adore. Every time we have a Teams meeting I'm expected to put him on camera so everyone can fawn over him.

My supervisor said he deserves an international audience.

than you do to join FB, Twitter or even here. You sign up using your email address or phone number, create a password, enter your date of birth, choose a username and that's it. You can also sign up using Facebook or Google, But I wouldn't do that.

I've been hacked through my health insurance, auto insurance,etc enough times that I swear I have a decade of free Experian waiting for me.

The US government has stated Tiktok is stealing and selling user information for the Chinese government. Joining Rednote basically says they don't care. Many who've joined have stated that their information was already stolen and has been many times over before Tiktok so who cares.

They is no substitute for people who want that experience. It’s the same reason why people who use Snap wouldn’t use Bsky as an alternative. Meta and YouTube have tried to emulate it but haven’t been successful.

People are flocking to Bsky from Twitter. I haven’t visited or read about Mastodon for a while.

Maybe people will give Mark Cuban’s TikTok competitor a try once he gets his new service going.

People want an alternative. Many people who have used TikTok have experienced the trance-like effect it has. Its quick videos and unending stream of content hooks you and keeps you scrolling. Their algorithm and approach is effective. I liken it to CocoMelon.

I won’t miss it, but I’m not its intended audience.

People will go around or over or under to get it. The users have more knowledge of how this works than high ups in government.

But that would tread on some very wealthy and powerful toes.

And it doesn't mean the other company does everything TikTok does.

They can go around by using FB or X or Bluesky or Mastadon. Those are social media that encourage sharing of text, images, and videos like TikTok.

I'm sure the kids don't mind. They're working on the next Tide Pod challenge.

that are on any social media sites.

I have 4x kids ages 16-24 along with a mess of their friends over on weekends, along with 10 nephews/nieces ages 18-33, so I'm pretty tapped in. More than I care to be.

The kids are already moving over to IG Reels.

She's non-verbal autistic, so I couldn't ask her what she was watching. It was one continuous stream of short videos. She selected abstract patterns. I eventually recognized stuff from meta. It could have been IG Reels, also.

Telling teens they can’t be on something like TikTok is like telling my generation not to listen to Duran Duran or telling my parents not to Jitterbug. Unfortunately, American companies aren’t quite as innovative and I wouldn’t trust my kids to be on apps run by the tech oligarchs here. See: Musk, Elon.

One could always protest by supporting their opponents in the next election.

I don't care really. I've seen TicToc. Heard the pitfalls, the collection of data is ...well.. data is on-line already. That ship has sailed. Bad ideas...those are all around. Children being coerced..parents have to be present. All parents must find out how all this works and how to manage them.

Knowing nothing is not an option.
Just good luck with banning.

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Americans flooded xiaohongshu (Rednote/Little Red Book) as you all are about TikTok and it's users.

People don't care about the data. Chinese spies aren't keeping us from getting healthcare, a living wage, reproductive rights, freedom to speak to each other.

You have no idea what people are doing/sharing on these apps.

But lots of disabled people, artists, musicians, teachers, craftsmen, gardeners, writers, cooks,...

Let's ban them.

Lots of lame shit on YouTube and instagram

But guess what. ANYONE with a lame idea can post. That's the point.

On TikTok people had your back though, against the bigots and trolls. And the algorithm really allowed real interaction with your tribe. And it gave people a source of income outside of the traditional wage slave economy.

So did the roller rink

So does High School

It doesn't "have your back".

I can tell you never used it.

People are people. I don't believe people "have your back" anymore than my "friends" on FB do. I've seen crazy TikTok psychic scams in a murder case I followed. Hubby is on TikTok. There is no real community. He watches how-to videos.

I was on TikTok, but I found the app extremely intrusive. I wasn't following anyone and I would get a notification every minute or so. I disabled notifications and the app stopped working.

Dude you don't know.

And the girl whose parents are still pimping her out?

Intrusive like Meta and Google? And Amazon?

How much time did you spend? Did you follow anybody? Did you post any content?

I still have the app installed and I have a login.
The only reason I have it, was so that I can read posts because it was so hot. But every minute my phone was dinging. So I disabled the alerts and now I can't open posts.

it's the fact that it's controlled by a foreign power that uses it to push disinformation and propaganda. Surely we have enough with our homegrown propaganda!

when the same awful influencers spread lies about our candidates and policies.