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California's Newsom will join GOP governors in raising flag for Trump inaugurationSACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) Democratic California Gov. Gavin Newsom will join Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson and some GOP governors around the country in directing U.S. flags be raised to full height on Inauguration Day.
Newsoms spokesperson Izzy Gardon confirmed Wednesday that the governor would temporarily direct the raising of flags at the state Capitol in Sacramento for President-elect Donald Trumps inauguration. Flags at the U.S. Capitol and at statehouses around the country have been lowered to half-staff in honor of the late former President Jimmy Carter.
Newsom, who has become a foil for Trump over the years, will need federal help as his state recovers from devastating wildfires that have killed more than two dozen people.
Trump has complained about American flags being flown at half-staff during his inauguration. Nobody wants to see this, and no American can be happy about it, he posted on his social media platform.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/california-s-newsom-will-join-gop-governors-in-raising-flag-for-trump-inauguration/ar-AA1xhaAt?ocid=msedgntp&pc=NMTS&cvid=f7fa41208eec43228a0af9e5e189bcbc&ei=164
I am at a loss on this.
elleng
(137,306 posts)as he's busy with important things.
Been wondering about his appeal to We the People as Potus.
William769
(56,249 posts)But apparently found time to do this? Makes no sense.
It's 1 day, it's a Presidential Inauguration, and knowing Jimmy Carter, I don't think he would care in the slightest.
Just not something worth fighting over.
SheltieLover
(60,789 posts)But the good news is President Carter doesn't care.
Wtf would even think of the flags being at half-staff?
Imagine the screaming & pearl clutching if a repuke were to die & a Dem Pres. Elect were to insist on this...
William769
(56,249 posts)"Imagine the screaming & pearl clutching if a repuke were to die & a Dem Pres. Elect were to insist on this..."
bdamomma
(66,947 posts)the felon dies (which he will) the flag stays up.
sheshe2
(88,658 posts)The day the music died.
William769
(56,249 posts)"A long, long time ago, I can still remember, How that music used to make me smile, And I knew if I had my chance, That I could make those people dance, And maybe theyd be happy for a while."
sheshe2
(88,658 posts)I just can't deal with it anymore.
Love you.
William769
(56,249 posts)Sweet dreams.
Shrek
(4,197 posts)But she just smiled and turned away.
msongs
(70,379 posts)Wuddles440
(1,470 posts)I'm sure he's making plans for such a pilgrimage to kiss the King's ass.
EarthFirst
(3,250 posts)
Im certain thats what Carter would have preferred.
He was selfless.
Im positive he would recognize the distinction between the rock and a hard place and the giant FU that other Republicans are creating here.
SunSeeker
(54,215 posts)This is not Newsom's first rodeo. He's playing Trump to get California fire relief money. It's the same reason Zelensky met with Trump. It's the same reason Putin compliments Trump. If you need something from Trump, playing him is pretty easy and doesn't cost much, except maybe your dignity.
William769
(56,249 posts)I'm nothing without my dignity & respect.
I would be curious to know what people thought of this when it was only republicans doing it.
SunSeeker
(54,215 posts)It's the horror show we are living in until we get a Dem in the White House again.
Maru Kitteh
(29,324 posts)Likely offer little comfort to those thousands of families who do not know how they will feed and house their children in the coming months.
When you are truly working to serve the people, its not really about you.
William769
(56,249 posts)With the new administration Likely offer little comfort to those millions of families who do not know how they will feed and house their children in the coming months.
The virtuous preservation of my dignity is knowing that it's also the preservation of their dignity.
The new administration is going to do what they have already promised to do & capitulating isn't going to change a damn thing.
betsuni
(27,357 posts)Why assume the motivation is "assimilation" -- what evidence is there of that?
William769
(56,249 posts)Are other Blue State Governors doing it?
Walleye
(36,873 posts)I hope nobody gets to our governor. The new guy is kind of a bro, I think not sure
BannonsLiver
(18,375 posts)BadgerMom
(3,012 posts)I fear Newsom is as beholden to them as many other California and national pols are. It makes my stomach sink, just as Schiffs June abandonment of Biden did, just as my Senator Heinrichs did. If the wealthy tech bros want something, they get it. I wonder if they arent pulling strings. No matter, I now consider Newsom untrustworthy.
Americas bought and sold.
RandiFan1290
(6,463 posts)William769
(56,249 posts)After thinking about this for the past couple of hours I have gone from bewilderment to being pissed off!
How many times are we going to be asked to grin & bare it before we say enough!
Having principle's used to mean something.
Hugin
(34,989 posts)Is there one? Are these things being done simply to shut up the Buffoon-Who-Wont-Go-Away?
If I could see some strategy for it I might not mind. However, if the Governor of the State of California is waving the white flag, what little I can do to resist seems insignificant and futile. Self-destructive in a word.
This is close to being the straw for this camel.
William769
(56,249 posts)I'm just tired that some of our elected officials of not having a spine.
Don't get me wrong, I have loved this guy since he was Mayor of San Francisco (a City BTW that has stood for something since Harvey Milk without backing down). I believe he just fell down that slippery slope head first.
If California falls, so does the nation. Is that hyperbole? Only time will tell.
Hugin
(34,989 posts)Is yet another effect of the huge gap in understanding the stakes between the top few and the rest of us.
To them two years or even four years, is no big deal. They are going all-in on Trump being gone in that span. They individually have the resources to weather the chaos or at least they believe they do. They can last until whatever appears next.
I and millions like me, simply dont. Depending on the breaks, I probably wont last a year. So, will I be there having their backs in 26 or 28? As the magic eight ball says, its not looking promising.
Some spit and fire on their part would go a long way toward making it worth staying engaged. Otherwise, the message is YOYO. (Youre On Your Own) Once that switch is thrown, theres no going back.
malaise
(279,580 posts)That is all
sop
(11,914 posts)Irish_Dem
(61,041 posts)ms liberty
(9,902 posts)We have to survive for at least 2 years, and win an election to survive 2 more years and then win that election.
This is a one day thing that will cost Cali nothing. I would bet that Newsom has calculated his personal cost against the benefits his state needs, and concluded it's worth taking a hit from the purists who want him to be a kneejerking opposition leader. He still has a state to run.
HAB911
(9,407 posts)You will be assimilated
William769
(56,249 posts)HAB911
(9,407 posts)personally, me and Nathan Hale feel "I only regret that I have but one life to lose for my country", and since I just dodged the agent orange bullet with early detection, I ain't being assimilated. I'll go out the airlock first, after causing some good trouble
Kid Berwyn
(18,631 posts)Bend the Knee to Putin.
Takket
(22,708 posts)99% of Americans have no idea where the flag is supposed to be or that it is being moved for the inauguration. and where the flag is has absolutely 0 influence or the horrors to come.
William769
(56,249 posts)harumph
(2,446 posts)and he knows that he'll get more and less strings attached federal aid (probably) by doing this. This is where we're at people - a purely transactional political landscape. OTH, Trump may stiff him anyway. In that case, I guess he was punked.
William769
(56,249 posts)That's it in a nutshell. Those spots will not change.
Looks like he's not the only one punked.
ProfessorGAC
(71,052 posts)As much as I loathe the man-baby getting his way:
Newsom has some big fish to fry, can't afford conflict, and as much as I liked Carter, the half-staff thing is, IMO, mere symbolism.
They can just lower the flag the next day.
William769
(56,249 posts)Symbolism is all we have right now and into the foreseeable future.
ProfessorGAC
(71,052 posts)In a thread you started about assimilation, you are claiming all that is left is symbolism.
That seems a lot like the assimilation you're accusing others of succumbing to.
Curious.
BannonsLiver
(18,375 posts)Im not sure why anyone would be at a loss, or blame him, which is a DU tradition.
William769
(56,249 posts)choie
(4,805 posts)Democrats don't even have balls to stand up for little things.