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ABC Evening News: Trump was "wild card" who gave "new momentum" for ceasefire deal (Original Post) HereForTheParty Wednesday OP
Because he broke the fucking law (Logan Act) and went there. LeftInTX Wednesday #1
I don't think that was the reason Mossfern Wednesday #4
Yep, don't forget Bibi is practically family with Jared. Walleye Wednesday #6
Yeah - if he played any role, wouldn't that be illegal? HereForTheParty Wednesday #5
Trump is immune for for life. For past, present and future crimes. Irish_Dem Wednesday #12
That's not news Mossfern Wednesday #2
I gave this answer about something else Just_Vote_Dem Wednesday #3
If a Hamas ceasefire is like the Hezbollah cease fire, other than hostages released, it means little. dutch777 Wednesday #7
Wow Greg_In_SF Wednesday #8
Heil Hitler is the only thing people say these days. Irish_Dem Wednesday #13
If the deal goes... Mike Nelson Wednesday #9
Because the Biden administration mentioned them being involved in their brief. Callie1979 Wednesday #10
The Trump envoy was there in addition to the Biden people karynnj Wednesday #11
Everyone wanted it done before Trump got into office. Intractable Wednesday #14
Just like Reagan and Nixon. They're all traitors. kysrsoze Wednesday #15

Mossfern

(3,328 posts)
4. I don't think that was the reason
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:43 PM
Wednesday

I think maybe Bibi was complicit in the arrangement.
My question is who, on the Palestinian (Hamas) side was conspiring with Trump.

Walleye

(36,897 posts)
6. Yep, don't forget Bibi is practically family with Jared.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:46 PM
Wednesday

Jared had a couple of phone calls with uncle Bibi and worked it out so that daddy Trump would get the credit

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,206 posts)
3. I gave this answer about something else
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:42 PM
Wednesday

but it is appropriate here (ABC didn't listen to Timothy Snyder)

1. Do not obey in advance. Most of the power of authoritarianism is freely given. In times like these, individuals think ahead about what a more repressive government will want, and then offer themselves without being asked. A citizen who adapts in this way is teaching power what it can do.

https://scholars.org/contribution/twenty-lessons-fighting-tyranny-twentieth

dutch777

(3,715 posts)
7. If a Hamas ceasefire is like the Hezbollah cease fire, other than hostages released, it means little.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:46 PM
Wednesday

Granted hostages returned alive and accounting for everyone who died is huge for the families. But other than change in intensity, the fighting at some level will continue, animosity of the parties is as high or higher than ever and the dying will continue on both sides and any real peace remains beyond reach.

Greg_In_SF

(103 posts)
8. Wow
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:46 PM
Wednesday

...even the State Department Spokesman said Trump was the one that got this across the line?!?!

Mike Nelson

(10,417 posts)
9. If the deal goes...
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:50 PM
Wednesday

... sour, it will be Biden's bad deal. If the deal stays good, "peacekeeper" Trump and the media will continue in this vein.

Callie1979

(416 posts)
10. Because the Biden administration mentioned them being involved in their brief.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:51 PM
Wednesday

Like it or not he's going to take & get credit for at least half this deal. Especially after his "red line" ultimatum last week.

karynnj

(60,049 posts)
11. The Trump envoy was there in addition to the Biden people
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:54 PM
Wednesday

Trump's biggest contribution was that he agreed with the basic outline that Qatar, Egypt and the Biden people proposed. This was incidentally the basic outline from at least May.

You could argue that had Trump publicly indicated he agreed with this basic outline, there might have been an agreement then and some hostages killed since May. His then public statements were more like giving Israel carte Blanc to destroy Gaza.

Intractable

(727 posts)
14. Everyone wanted it done before Trump got into office.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 06:58 PM
Wednesday

Those wildcards can be played against you, too.

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