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yardwork

(64,968 posts)
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 12:44 PM Wednesday

It's not about transgender rights

It wasn't about "welfare queens."
It wasn't about "gays demand special rights."
It wasn't about "welfare on demand."
It wasn't about Willie Horton.
It wasn't about John Kerry's Purple Hearts.
It wasn't about Al Gore "inventing the internet."
It wasn't about woke.
It wasn't about affirmative action or busing.
It wasn't about Jimmy Carter and the rabbit.
And it wasn't about Tim Walz "lying about his military record."

If any of these trigger memories for you and make you mad, it's because that's what they were designed to do. Each of these - and more - were used deceitfully by the Republican Party in order to distract and anger voters into turning away from Democratic candidates.

Each time we allow the GOP to get away with this, we cede our strength and clarity to their strategy of confusion and finger pointing.

We need a new approach in the Democratic Party. No, we don't turn our backs on our commitment to equal rights. We don't get into pointless arguments over which group we'll throw under the bus to appease the monsters.

We need a disciplined, consistent message from ALL Democratic politicians.

When Tim Walz was falsely smeared, we needed every single Democratic figure to repeat the same message of outrage, day and night, over and over.

Repeat over and over.

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It's not about transgender rights (Original Post) yardwork Wednesday OP
I don't want anybody talking about this upcoming administration to use the phrase "to be fair" Walleye Wednesday #1
They will and the media will follow. yardwork Wednesday #2
I think the media is going to break apart. bronxiteforever Wednesday #9
I know this sounds obvious, but we really would benefit from holding Mike 03 Wednesday #3
The Republicans make us fight among ourselves. yardwork Wednesday #6
Yup. OldBaldy1701E Wednesday #10
Also known as Solidarity. Voltaire2 Wednesday #7
I just wrote another post on this - you are 100% on this TBF Wednesday #4
And the big one, Socialism! jalan48 Wednesday #5
Good point! yardwork Wednesday #8
It's hard to get away from when some use the word "socialist" when self-describing their politics. Oopsie Daisy Wednesday #13
The problem is that Americans have been conditioned by Republicans and big corporations to react negatively. jalan48 Wednesday #16
We need to own OUR party name, not hyphenate it with Socialist. Oopsie Daisy Wednesday #20
Exactly! William769 Wednesday #21
Five keys of Counter-propaganda: FACET Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #11
Jeez, you had to mention Jimmy Carter and that goddamn rabbit. I don't know why, but that really pissed me off. RussellCattle Wednesday #12
Me too. yardwork Wednesday #17
The right wing is more organized on messaging nuxvomica Wednesday #14
Great post Mosby Wednesday #15
Thank you! yardwork Wednesday #18
Well said. William769 Wednesday #19

Walleye

(36,897 posts)
1. I don't want anybody talking about this upcoming administration to use the phrase "to be fair"
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 12:47 PM
Wednesday

yardwork

(64,968 posts)
2. They will and the media will follow.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 12:57 PM
Wednesday

We need a new strategy of concerted outrage, in unison. It's way past time.

bronxiteforever

(9,649 posts)
9. I think the media is going to break apart.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:18 PM
Wednesday

Too much boot licking from them. People are turning them off and canceling out subscriptions.
I have completely migrated to the guardian and the Philadelphia inquirer and Bluesky and medias touch.

I used to have subscriptions to the wash post and the NYT. I don’t watch cable news at all.i feel they are mostly GOP mouthpieces (obviously not Rachel or Lawrence or the msnbc good ones).

I agree with you about the fight. Dems are too dignified in their fight. We have gutter opponents who will use emergency funds as blackmail to support their agenda. Bullies only respond to those who hit them back. What do we have to lose since we are already in the minority and the GOP controls all branches.

Mike 03

(17,663 posts)
3. I know this sounds obvious, but we really would benefit from holding
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 12:58 PM
Wednesday

as a general principle that when ANY member of ANY vulnerable group is attacked we defend them as if we ourselves had been attacked.

It so happens that right now the transgender community is on the front line. The one substack I didn't unsubscribe from is called "Erin in the Morning," a place for the transgender community to discuss the assault on them. I see in their words the bewilderment, the anger and the panic as they try to figure out the hundreds of new proposed laws against them, various new rules and regulations, to compare notes on getting their passports, etc...

As your post illustrates, the chosen out-group of the moment can change overnight.

We need to remain flexible, watch closely, and react swiftly however we can--and I understand that we cannot perform miracles. And at the very, very least we can bear witness and share what we have seen.

yardwork

(64,968 posts)
6. The Republicans make us fight among ourselves.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:49 PM
Wednesday

We lose momentum and the general public believes the lies.

OldBaldy1701E

(6,847 posts)
10. Yup.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:29 PM
Wednesday

Also, the disruptions created by their efforts to do this just gives them even more fuel to turn the general public away from the real narrative and more into psychosis. As our great and powerful mushroom (Who I want to thank profusely for keeping us reminded that justice has been delayed and now is on track to be denied. This justice can take whatever form it wants, but the point is that it has not happened in any meaningful way, as true justice requires consequences) said (adjusted for current time and date): 'Five days remaining.'. Because, after that, we can kiss whatever was left of the rule of law, and the desire to 'promote the general welfare' (which is so fucking ironic given how much these rethugs love to quote the Constitution!). Then, all our infighting will have to stop as we will all be fighting for survival. That itself might just implode the entire party.

Or, we could just stop with the farting around and get our shit together now, right? Right??

Voltaire2

(15,019 posts)
7. Also known as Solidarity.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:55 PM
Wednesday

It is critical to the success of a political mass movement.

TBF

(34,870 posts)
4. I just wrote another post on this - you are 100% on this
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 01:00 PM
Wednesday

it's about (1) increasing $$ for owners - ie billionaires who are greedy as heck and will push back on anything that helps us - o/t, workers rights, unions, etc. and (2) christian nationalism - project 2025 is going to be rammed down our throats because religion helps to control the masses.

the other stuff is wedges and theater.

Oopsie Daisy

(4,755 posts)
13. It's hard to get away from when some use the word "socialist" when self-describing their politics.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:50 PM
Wednesday

It's just an invitation for those individuals to be characterized negatively and then by association, the entire Democratic party. I wonder if there is a solution to that. I just don't know what it is.

jalan48

(14,576 posts)
16. The problem is that Americans have been conditioned by Republicans and big corporations to react negatively.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 04:57 PM
Wednesday

They will call anything socialism to influence the voters. In the 80's, Reagan and the Republicans made "liberal" a bad word and too many Democrats took the bait and ran from it. We need to focus on the policy and not the label.

Oopsie Daisy

(4,755 posts)
20. We need to own OUR party name, not hyphenate it with Socialist.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 07:27 PM
Wednesday

That's confusing and poor messaging. Be a proud Democrat.

Bernardo de La Paz

(51,822 posts)
11. Five keys of Counter-propaganda: FACET
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:33 PM
Wednesday

FACET

* Fast (quick response),
* Accurate (true, unassailable),
* Clear (instantly digested),
* Everywhere (abundant, plentiful),
* Targeted (at audience of original propaganda)

or equivalently

* Fast (quick response),
* Aimed (at audience of original propaganda),
* Clear (instantly digested),
* Everywhere (abundant, plentiful),
* True (unassailable)

RussellCattle

(1,803 posts)
12. Jeez, you had to mention Jimmy Carter and that goddamn rabbit. I don't know why, but that really pissed me off.
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:46 PM
Wednesday

nuxvomica

(13,072 posts)
14. The right wing is more organized on messaging
Wed Jan 15, 2025, 03:57 PM
Wednesday

Grover Norquist ran and probably still runs a weekly meeting of point people who receive the new talking points and immediately distribute it to their organizations and connections. These talking points are always lies or at least distortions but everyone is told what to say so they all speak in unison and by the time it gets out there, our side is always reacting and without a unified message. The DNC or some other central organization should get on top of this and distribute a consistent rebuttal that all the players can bring to the press conferences and talk shows. They could do this proactively too, highlighting accomplishments and initiatives, which they should've been doing throughout Biden's term, but they can also consistently illuminate the dangerous things the Trump people will be doing during the next four years. It's the consistency of a response simultaneously delivered by a broad group of players that makes people accept that an issue is really "a thing".

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