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senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts) Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:07 PM Jan 13

Dems need to step up

Trump, of course, and his minions like Tuberville are all over FAUX, Newsmax and Social Media telling lies about the CA wildfires and threatening funding.

Where are the voices screaming that CA contributes more to the Federal budget than any other state and bails out all the red states on a regular basis?

Enough of this BS! Have we learned nothing from the election?

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Dems need to step up (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jan 13 OP

Dems julmur Jan 13 #1

Yup senseandsensibility Jan 13 #2

Absolutely! Dems' can't just be all about doing the necessary work. It's also got to be... Beartracks Jan 13 #3

You said it well, Beartracks. senseandsensibility Jan 13 #5

Durn that librul meedia Basso8vb Jan 13 #4

Dems are out there Blue_Tires Jan 13 #6

They own the media. Johonny Jan 13 #7

One of the most underreported stories of the campaign Blue_Tires Jan 14 #20

Some are senseandsensibility Jan 13 #8

... William769 Jan 13 #11

Hard to climb over BullShit Mountain every minute of the day. NoMoreRepugs Jan 13 #9

Five keys of Counter-propaganda: FACET Bernardo de La Paz Jan 13 #10

And it certainly is true that CA senseandsensibility Jan 13 #12

Is this still Democratic Underground? William769 Jan 13 #13

Exactly what are you accusing me and others on this thread of? senseandsensibility Jan 13 #15

One only needs to read. William769 Jan 13 #18

Wow senseandsensibility Jan 13 #19

Hear hear! ancianita Jan 13 #14

Post removed Post removed Jan 13 #16

Market and economic disruption. legallyblondeNYC Jan 13 #17

julmur

(198 posts)

1. Dems

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:20 PM

Jan 13

Where is our leadership on this & every else?! Enough of the pussyfooting around, we need some skull crackers to step up and make noise!!!!

senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

2. Yup

Reply to julmur (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:22 PM

Jan 13

I've appreciated Chris Murphy, Swalwell and a few others lately, but of course they are drowned out by the propaganda and the corporate media's willingness to play along with it.

Beartracks

(13,840 posts)

3. Absolutely! Dems' can't just be all about doing the necessary work. It's also got to be...

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:32 PM

Jan 13

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... about COMMUNICATING the work, the reasons, the results.

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senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

5. You said it well, Beartracks.

Reply to Beartracks (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:42 PM

Jan 13

On this and so many issues, especially since they can not count on the corporate media to be even-handed.

Basso8vb

(806 posts)

4. Durn that librul meedia

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:41 PM

Jan 13

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)

6. Dems are out there

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:44 PM

Jan 13

But nobody pays attention to us... The truth is never as interesting to the public as sexy sensationalized conspiracy disinfo being screamed by some outraged white dude.

Johonny

(23,205 posts)

7. They own the media.

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:54 PM

Jan 13

America is bought and sold. Democrats can talk all they want. But the media won't cover them. It is fucking obvious by now the free media died years ago.

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)

20. One of the most underreported stories of the campaign

Reply to Johonny (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2025, 09:56 AM

Jan 14

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Was Melon Husk, aka "Mr. Free Speech" getting caught tweaking the Twitter algorithm to ensure MAGA lies and disinfo got the maximum amount of circulation while tweets from the most prominent Dem accounts got suppressed... Now Zuckerberg is doing the same with Facebook.

Can you imagine if Elmo went the other way and cut off the flow of MAGA accounts? Donnie would be suing the absolute shit out of twitter right now and Congressional Trumpers would be discussing a national ban for the platform

senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

8. Some are

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 07:55 PM

Jan 13

but specifically on this issue which is receiving almost 24/7 coverage, every Dem who is interviewed needs to point out what I said in my OP. The fact that Dems are threatening CA while lives are still in danger and the fires are still burning is outrageous, and that's the tone they should be taking.

William769

(58,383 posts)

11. ...

Reply to Blue_Tires (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:41 PM

Jan 13

NoMoreRepugs

(11,153 posts)

9. Hard to climb over BullShit Mountain every minute of the day.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:30 PM

Jan 13

Bernardo de La Paz

(54,153 posts)

10. Five keys of Counter-propaganda: FACET

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:40 PM

Jan 13

FACET

* Fast (quick response),
* Aimed (at audience of original propaganda),
* Clear (instantly digested),
* Everywhere (abundant, plentiful)
* True (unassailable),

That means "Dems need to step up"

senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

12. And it certainly is true that CA

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:42 PM

Jan 13

constantly bails out the red states WITHOUT COMPLAINING. Start throwing that back in their faces!

William769

(58,383 posts)

13. Is this still Democratic Underground?

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:44 PM

Jan 13

It's making me wonder more & more.

senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

15. Exactly what are you accusing me and others on this thread of?

Reply to William769 (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:51 PM

Jan 13

I don't like veiled insults or innuendo.

William769

(58,383 posts)

18. One only needs to read.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:58 PM

Jan 13

Have a nice evening.

senseandsensibility

(21,584 posts)

19. Wow

Reply to William769 (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 10:01 PM

Jan 13

I really thought I'd give you a chance to explain. I guess I was right along, but your fear of spelling it out says it all.

ancianita

(40,231 posts)

14. Hear hear!

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:49 PM

Jan 13

AMEN! Thing is, even the only pro-Democratic press is paying attention to Biden winding down his presidency, and the fire controversy bullshit.

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legallyblondeNYC

(91 posts)

17. Market and economic disruption.

Reply to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 09:58 PM

Jan 13

The reason we collectively pay for these losses is because we have national markets -- operations, supply chain, and finance. All these not-so-smart business people are inviting higher interest rates and higher prices. This is not the inflation fight for which some thought they were voting.

The effects of increased risks and costs are national.

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