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WhiskeyGrinder

(24,193 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 11:26 AM Jan 8

Israel Blocks UN Probe Into Hamas Sexual Crimes From October 7 to Avoid Inquiry Into Abuse of Palestinians

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-01-08/ty-article/israel-blocks-un-hamas-sexual-crimes-probe-to-avoid-inquiry-into-abuse-of-palestinians/00000194-44e0-d087-a9bd-7de1d5f20000

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Israel is blocking the United Nations from investigating sexual crimes committed by Hamas during its October 7 attack, fearing it would require granting access to probe allegations of sexual violence against Palestinians in Israeli detention.

A thorough investigation could have led to Hamas being added to the UN's blacklist of entities suspected of sexual violence in conflicts.

Pramila Patten, the UN's Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, has requested permission to investigate Hamas' alleged crimes. However, she stipulated that her team must also be allowed to access Israeli detention facilities to examine claims of sexual violence by Israeli soldiers. Israel has refused the request.

Patten has urged Israel to sign a framework agreement with her office, committing to measures against sexual violence in conflicts under UN guidance. Similar agreement have been signed with Ukraine in 2022, which included commitments to protect prisoners of war from sexual violence.
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Israel Blocks UN Probe Into Hamas Sexual Crimes From October 7 to Avoid Inquiry Into Abuse of Palestinians (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Jan 8 OP
Wow!!! atreides1 Jan 8 #1
Rather telling... 2naSalit Jan 8 #2
That's a lot of assumption on the reason Mountainguy Jan 8 #3
Ironic that Israel would not exist spapeggy Jan 8 #4
K & R malaise Jan 8 #5
Of course they did Avalon Sparks Jan 8 #6
As per the article (not its headline), Israel didn't block jack shit. Beastly Boy Jan 8 #7

Mountainguy

(1,090 posts)
3. That's a lot of assumption on the reason
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jan 8

Also just as possible that Israel isn't interested in what the UN has to say on the issue or trust them to do anything in relation to Hama given their history.

The UN hasn't been an impartial party in this and I wouldn't trust them offering gifts.

Avalon Sparks

(2,647 posts)
6. Of course they did
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jan 8

Someone please give these monsters their own planet, preferably in another galaxy.

The depths of Israeli entitlement, self-pity, and self regard are bottomless.

Beastly Boy

(11,509 posts)
7. As per the article (not its headline), Israel didn't block jack shit.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 03:42 PM
Jan 8

Last edited Wed Jan 8, 2025, 06:18 PM - Edit history (1)

Patten has urged Israel to sign a framework agreement with her office, committing to measures against sexual violence in conflicts under UN guidance.


Did hamas sign a framework agreement? Did PA?

But Israel is already being blamed, before the investigation, which, BTW, can proceed without any agreements, even started.

Did Hamas get blamed? Did PA? Did it occur to anyone to even ask about them?

The UN already conducted an investigation into sexual crimes committed by Hamas:
https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/report/mission-report-official-visit-of-the-office-of-the-srsg-svc-to-israel-and-the-occupied-west-bank-29-january-14-february-2024/20240304-Israel-oWB-CRSV-report.pdf

And this is what it concluded:
V. Conclusions
84. Overall, based on the totality of information gathered from multiple and independent
sources at the different locations, there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related
sexual violence occurred at several locations across the Gaza periphery, including in the form of
rape and gang rape, during the 7 October 2023 attacks. Credible circumstantial information,
which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation,
sexualized torture, or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, was also gathered.
85. With regards to the hostages, the mission team found clear and convincing information
that some hostages taken to Gaza have been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual
violence and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing.
86. The mission team was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and
concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would
require a fully-fledged investigation. A comprehensive investigation would enable the
information base to be expanded in locations which the mission team was not able to visit and to
build the required trust with survivors/victims of conflict-related sexual violence who may be
reluctant to come forward at this point.
87. Regarding the occupied Palestinian Territory, while its scope did not extend to
verification, the mission team received information from institutional and civil society sources as
well as through direct interviews, about some forms of sexual violence against Palestinian men
and women in detention settings, during house raids and at checkpoints. Though the mission
team did not visit Gaza, the Office of the SRSG-SVC will continue to monitor the situation for
any relevant allegations of CRSV in the context of the ongoing hostilities. The relevant UN
entities present in the occupied Palestinian Territory will provide UN-verified information for
reporting to the Security Council on allegations of CRSV, which will be complemented by the
information obtained by the mission team.
Why does the UN delay an investigation for which they already found "overwhelming and convincing evidence"?

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