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AZLD4Candidate

(6,441 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 12:58 PM Jan 6

He's right. The flag has never been at half staff during a swearing in of president. . .except:

John Tyler
Millard Fillmore
Andrew Johnson
Chester Arthur
Theodore Roosevelt
Harry Truman
Lyndon Johnson
Richard Nixon

All were at half staff at their swearing in.

And no American will stand for it, just like No True Scotsman will . . . aren't logical fallacies wonderful?

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He's right. The flag has never been at half staff during a swearing in of president. . .except: (Original Post) AZLD4Candidate Jan 6 OP
You forgot Nixon's 2nd Inaugural. FalloutShelter Jan 6 #1
That should be read into the Congressional record! Clouds Passing Jan 6 #2
so......he's NOT right oldtime dfl_er Jan 6 #3
What a shocker. groundloop Jan 6 #17
Hah. No kidding. calimary Jan 7 #48
What do you expect from an effin malaise Jan 6 #4
Exactly this! ShazzieB Jan 6 #19
"Orange Hellbeast" Dave Bowman Jan 6 #21
Thanks. I came up with that myself. ☺ ShazzieB Jan 6 #24
You nailed it malaise Jan 6 #31
He's dumber than dumb. But our juges decided that you answer is correct. Dave Bowman Jan 6 #20
This just in: Omnipresent Jan 6 #5
Lol! He's a 12 year old in a crumbling old body. Dave Bowman Jan 6 #23
That's an insult to 12 year olds... AZ8theist Jan 6 #34
Lol, so true. Dave Bowman Jan 6 #37
If it ain't about him and how persecuted he is.... it never happened Attilatheblond Jan 6 #6
TFG however did break precedent bronxiteforever Jan 6 #7
Well, at least Xi has brains enough to decline Farmer-Rick Jan 6 #13
Yeah, "large crowds" won't be an issue in this inauguration (outside the simpleton's mind, that is) . . . Journeyman Jan 7 #44
You're forgetting that TSF is the best prez this Country has ever known! KS Toronado Jan 6 #8
Yep, he's the bestest president. Ever. :rofl: Dave Bowman Jan 6 #25
Make the big baby happy.... rubbersole Jan 6 #9
Thanks for that. Trump could get his revenge by dying right before the inauguration of the Democratic candidate... surfered Jan 6 #10
trump lied? Say it isn't so... Wounded Bear Jan 6 #11
In other news, the sun rose in the east, night is still dark, water is still wet, and snow is still cold. AZLD4Candidate Jan 6 #14
Add Calvin Coolidge to that list.... lastlib Jan 6 #12
Coolidge wanted to be know as the least president ever, which is the reason I left him off. But you're right. AZLD4Candidate Jan 6 #15
It is a well established fact that DJT doesn't read anything he disagrees with or is longer than fits a 3x5 card. Ford_Prefect Jan 6 #16
And it doesn't matter. It's happening now. It's not about him, it's about Jimmy Carter. Suck it, Trump. mucholderthandirt Jan 6 #18
I'm not sure about all of those examples, but the Nixon example definitely is correct. onenote Jan 6 #22
How fitting for that crook. Dave Bowman Jan 6 #27
Presidential and State Funerals (The White House Historical Society) . . . Journeyman Jan 7 #45
What about Calvin Coolidge? Harding died in office of natural causes. Glorfindel Jan 6 #26
You shouldn't be so sure . . . markpkessinger Jan 6 #30
The rule of flying flags at half staff for 30 days in mourning for a president . . . markpkessinger Jan 6 #28
Actually, I'm not so sure it was the case with Johnson either . . . markpkessinger Jan 6 #29
Unless someone can provide a source verifying that flags were flown at half staff for each of the examples in the OP ... markpkessinger Jan 6 #32
Agree. Unless legit documentation is provided I will not vouch for the accuracy of the OP's claims. Celerity Jan 7 #46
Gety Images has this photo from the day of Truman's inauguration . . . markpkessinger Jan 6 #33
Whoa! Unladen Swallow Jan 6 #35
Thats his 2nd term. Half at first Figarosmom Jan 6 #39
The only inauguration Truman had was his second . . . markpkessinger Jan 7 #49
I love it!! Watch Trump try to stop it.... kerry-is-my-prez Jan 6 #36
Trump will have that flag at full staff right after he's sworn in. Figarosmom Jan 6 #38
"It's just all about him" might have been a nice slogan for wry, mocking ads lostnfound Jan 7 #43
I get it... TheGreatConspiracy Jan 6 #40
Wait until he finds out the 20th is MLK Day too. Historic NY Jan 7 #41
I know that's who I will be celebrating Evolve Dammit Jan 7 #47
He's ALWAYS right. Except when he's not - which is always. dchill Jan 7 #42
Why not just take it down entirely? Then Donnie can fondle it, slobber over it, and make some real headlines. Ping Tung Jan 8 #50
Knowing him, he'd probably masturbate on it and say it's all good MAGAts should do. AZLD4Candidate Jan 8 #51
Well, he might.....but the Sacred Bone Spur gets in the way. Ping Tung Jan 8 #52
watch that fucker order all flags gopiscrap Jan 8 #53
And that would be in the history books MacKasey Jan 8 #55
This inauguration itself is sufficient justification Bluetus Jan 8 #54

ShazzieB

(19,084 posts)
19. Exactly this!
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:02 PM
Jan 6

And don't forget, this is not just an ignoramus we're talking about. It's a malignantly narcissistic ignoramus that thinks it is the center of the universe and personalizes every single frickin' thing that happens to it (or around it, or near it, or within its awareness).

Never forget: When it comes to the Orange Hellbeast, EVERYTHING is ALL about him, ALL of the damned time!

ShazzieB

(19,084 posts)
24. Thanks. I came up with that myself. ☺
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:15 PM
Jan 6

Hellbeast sums up exactly what I think he is, because he's like an evil force come to destroy everything that matters.

Dave Bowman

(4,090 posts)
20. He's dumber than dumb. But our juges decided that you answer is correct.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jan 6

Damn I miss Alex...

Omnipresent

(6,550 posts)
5. This just in:
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:28 PM
Jan 6

None of that list of presidents cried like a whiny, little baby, about the flag being flown at half staff.
Melania, it’s time for you to change your husband’s diaper!

Attilatheblond

(4,860 posts)
6. If it ain't about him and how persecuted he is.... it never happened
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 01:37 PM
Jan 6

Never been a grown (groan?) man so badly treated in the history of mankind.... according to him.

bronxiteforever

(9,649 posts)
7. TFG however did break precedent
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jan 6

by inviting chinese communist leader Xi to his inauguration.

“If any foreign leaders do show up at the inaugural ceremony, it would be unprecedented.
State Department records dating back to 1874, when the first visit by a foreign leader took place, show no head of a foreign country has ever attended a presidential inauguration in the U.S., though CBS notes it’s common for lower-ranking foreign diplomats or ambassadors to show up.
Foreign leaders aren’t typically invited to inaugurations due to the large crowds and “security concerns,” officials told the Associated Press in 2009, when Barack Obama’s transition team declined to invite any heads of state to his inauguration, citing historical precedent.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/12/13/trump-invited-chinese-president-xi-jinping-and-other-world-leaders-to-inauguration-heres-why-thats-unprecedented/

I guess the GOP party leaders agree with this. Too bad the media just dropped this. I guess they can’t be too critical of their paymaster’s hero.

Farmer-Rick

(11,587 posts)
13. Well, at least Xi has brains enough to decline
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jan 6

Such an impossible invitation. Imagine him traveling so far away, his security detail would be huge. He would be standing within shooting range of GOP members who see him, and his form of communism, as the devil.

Imagine Xi having to listen to the unfiltered crap spewing forth from the pedophile. Could he remain stoic and not cringe?

What a stupid invitation but maybe pedo Trump was trying to pump up.his spectator numbers with Xi's security team.

Journeyman

(15,197 posts)
44. Yeah, "large crowds" won't be an issue in this inauguration (outside the simpleton's mind, that is) . . .
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:11 AM
Jan 7

rubbersole

(8,821 posts)
9. Make the big baby happy....
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:16 PM
Jan 6

...just fly the Russian flag during the "inauguration". Then put ours back in place.

surfered

(4,148 posts)
10. Thanks for that. Trump could get his revenge by dying right before the inauguration of the Democratic candidate...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jan 6

…who defeats J D Vance in 2028.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,441 posts)
14. In other news, the sun rose in the east, night is still dark, water is still wet, and snow is still cold.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jan 6

I know, right?

AZLD4Candidate

(6,441 posts)
15. Coolidge wanted to be know as the least president ever, which is the reason I left him off. But you're right.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:18 PM
Jan 6

Ford_Prefect

(8,235 posts)
16. It is a well established fact that DJT doesn't read anything he disagrees with or is longer than fits a 3x5 card.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jan 6

His ego is an exaggerated safety device to prevent his consciousness from encountering any confounding information.

Short version: DJT is a whining brat who avoids the truth to the extent that he physically cannot speak it nor bear to hear it spoken.

mucholderthandirt

(1,255 posts)
18. And it doesn't matter. It's happening now. It's not about him, it's about Jimmy Carter. Suck it, Trump.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 03:48 PM
Jan 6

onenote

(44,866 posts)
22. I'm not sure about all of those examples, but the Nixon example definitely is correct.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:13 PM
Jan 6

There have been numerous instances of presidents being sworn in within 30 days of the death of previous president, including all of the instances of a VP being sworn in upon the death of a sitting president. The latter group of swearing in ceremonies aren't really the kind of event most people think of as an "inauguration ceremony" and its not clear whether an order directing the flying of flags at half staff was made before or after the swearing in all of those cases.

But in the case of Nixon's 1973 inauguration, flags had been ordered flown at half staff following the death of Truman a few weeks earlier and were still at half staff on inauguration day:https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=AwrFQJTeRXxnRKAJHWeJzbkF;_ylu=c2VjA3NlYXJjaARzbGsDYnV0dG9u;_ylc=X1MDOTYwNjI4NTcEX3IDMgRmcgN5ZnAtdARmcjIDcDpzLHY6aSxtOnNiLXRvcARncHJpZAMxRlVQUXZ6eFJ0bVZFODEzNC53NmhBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMwBG9yaWdpbgNpbWFnZXMuc2VhcmNoLnlhaG9vLmNvbQRwb3MDMARwcXN0cgMEcHFzdHJsAzAEcXN0cmwDMzYEcXVlcnkDbml4b24lMjBpbmF1Z3VyYXRpb24lMjAxOTczJTIwcGhvdG9zJTIwZmxhZ3MEdF9zdG1wAzE3MzYxOTc2NDk-?p=nixon+inauguration+1973+photos+flags&fr=yfp-t&fr2=p%3As%2Cv%3Ai%2Cm%3Asb-top&ei=UTF-8&x=wrt#id=44&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fid%2F517285048%2Fphoto%2F1-20-1973-washington-dc-president-richard-nixon-inauguration-general-view-of-swearing-in.jpg%3Fs%3D612x612%26w%3Dgi%26k%3D20%26c%3DT872GPryj0aMa7f-NJXLeS75ld1vMvTK5M4jO13BBl8%3D&action=click

Glorfindel

(10,015 posts)
26. What about Calvin Coolidge? Harding died in office of natural causes.
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:26 PM
Jan 6

I'm sure the flag was at half-staff when Coolidge was sworn in.

markpkessinger

(8,626 posts)
30. You shouldn't be so sure . . .
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:42 PM
Jan 6

The rule of flying flags at half staff for 30 days in honor of a deceased former president is part of the U.S. Flag Code, which was instituted by Eisenhower in 1954. Prior to that, there was no uniform flag code, so the actual practice may have varied quite a bit.

markpkessinger

(8,626 posts)
28. The rule of flying flags at half staff for 30 days in mourning for a president . . .
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jan 6

. . . is part of the U.S. Flag Code, which didn't exist prior to 1954, when Eisenhower signed it into law. So while you are certainly right about Johnson and Nixon, I'm not sure it was the case with Truman and the earlier presidents. Do you have a source that can confirm that?

markpkessinger

(8,626 posts)
29. Actually, I'm not so sure it was the case with Johnson either . . .
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:40 PM
Jan 6

. . . since he was sworn in aboard Air Force One and there was no formal inauguration per se (although there was in 1964, when he was elected to office).

markpkessinger

(8,626 posts)
32. Unless someone can provide a source verifying that flags were flown at half staff for each of the examples in the OP ...
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 04:48 PM
Jan 6

. . . we really cannot just assume that it was done for the inaugurations of Tyler through Truman, because there was no flag code prior to 1954, when Eisenhower instituted it. And Johnson's swearing in happened on Air Force One, so there was no inauguration per se, except when he ran and won in 1964. As for Nixon, yes, one can readily verify that they were flown at half mast at his second inauguration in 1973 in honor of Truman's passing in December of 1972.

I tried to do some checking, but could find no source verifying that flags were at half staff for any of the earlier inaugurations.

Celerity

(47,222 posts)
46. Agree. Unless legit documentation is provided I will not vouch for the accuracy of the OP's claims.
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 05:44 AM
Jan 7

markpkessinger

(8,626 posts)
49. The only inauguration Truman had was his second . . .
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jan 7

. . . his first swearing in took place in the Cabinet room of the White House.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,454 posts)
36. I love it!! Watch Trump try to stop it....
Mon Jan 6, 2025, 06:55 PM
Jan 6

I swear Jimmy picked the right time to go. Comparisons are being made between the goodness of him and the evilness of Trump over and over. And the fact that Trump will have “his day” ruined by the flags being flown half-mast is probably giving Jimmy a chuckle. Anyone else would not let it ruin their day but for someone as petty as Trump, it will really aggravate him.

lostnfound

(16,771 posts)
43. "It's just all about him" might have been a nice slogan for wry, mocking ads
Tue Jan 7, 2025, 03:29 AM
Jan 7

maybe a Canadian voice.

Ping Tung

(1,513 posts)
50. Why not just take it down entirely? Then Donnie can fondle it, slobber over it, and make some real headlines.
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jan 8

Bluetus

(407 posts)
54. This inauguration itself is sufficient justification
Wed Jan 8, 2025, 05:02 PM
Jan 8

for flags to fly at half staff, regardless of President Carter.

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